KSICS Anchor Thread
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So Hutch is 100.1 feet and Partridge is 399.9ft. i used a conversion site Distance and Length conversion online.
Train derailment, cars on fire, U59 closed and evacuations near the track areas.
got details? i'm a railfan and stormchaser so i take a great deal of interest.
Sorry for the late response. I been busy on these storms handling Comms.
Train Derailment In Kansas Sparks Big Fire - Kansas City News Story - KCTV Kansas City
factorone
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If you have a place to mount one, you might try out a discone antenna. I had one for awhile when I lived in Hays and was picking up signals from Salina (95 miles east) on good nights when things were ducting well. I would be almost certain that living in north JoCo you'd be able to pick up signal from Leavenworth with one. I have a 450MHz quarter wave antenna on my truck and I can pull KCK in south Olathe/OP like I'm there, and on a good day, I can pull Leavenworth's UHF channels pretty decently.
On a side note, what's the news on the system progress around Hays and Garden City? I don't get out there much, and last I was out, things were starting to come up online. I know the Director of EM in Ellis County, and last I'd spoken with him, they were looking at possibly upgrading from their analog 800 system to either the state system, or maybe even purchasing a new system entirely (likely 800 digital or 700 P25). I wouldn't be surprised if they ended up piggy-backing on the KSICS...
factorone
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I know Hays is still using their Type IIi trunked system, and GC has been on the state system for a little over a year and half. GCPD is encrypted, and FISO was for awhile, but reverted back to normal voice transmissions after complaints from the public. EMS is encrypted (though it doesn't need to be, but that's another battle...).
Next time I'm out in Hays in July, I'll have to take notes and take multiple scanners with me to catch any updates.
Rolled through there yesterday on my way back from Denver...here are some updates for you all:
Thomas, Trego and Russell Counties are all on the State System now. Thomas appears to still be simulcasting on their old VHF from Dispatch. Trego County is using some encryption on Law Dispatch. Surprisingly enough, Russell County EMS isn't. Hays is still on their Analog Type II system. It was fairly active on the return trip yesterday. I have heard the rumor that when they go P25 they will go 100% encrypted. We'll see how that plays out...
Hutchinson PD has now switched over to digital. The only thing left on analog is the EMS pagers.
Some encryption is also present now. 2 nights in a row we have had severe weather in the area. There are at least 2 units that are encrypting traffic on storm reports. This is go against what officials have said they wanted to do. They had said they wanted the public to be able to listen. I don't think they know it is turned on for those radios.
Some encryption is also present now. 2 nights in a row we have had severe weather in the area. There are at least 2 units that are encrypting traffic on storm reports. This is go against what officials have said they wanted to do. They had said they wanted the public to be able to listen. I don't think they know it is turned on for those radios.
factorone
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Wow, where'd you hear that rumor? I'll have to call Bill and see what they're looking at and try to convince them from doing that...
FWIW - I'll be driving through the following Counties next week and would be happy to run Pro96Com on any CCs you need to confirm for your DB.
- Sherman
- Thomas
- Sheridan
- Gove
- Trego
- Ellis
- Rooks
- Phillips
- Norton
- Decatur
- Rawlins
- Cheyenne
FWIW - I did confirm that Morland, Halford and Edson are up and running and the DB Admins have added them to the KSICS site list. I had good KSICS coverage all the way down I-70 from the CO border to Hays, on US183 to Phillipsburg and then back up US36 to the CO border.
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KSICS Coordinated Talk Groups vs RR Listings
OK folks, we're getting very close to having ALL of the coordinated talk groups from the KDOT templates received under the Open Records request added to the database now (about 75 or less out of the 1300 or so talk groups to go last time I compared). We need to start providing some overall ground-truth to what is in the database now.
I have run a comparison of the two lists and come up with several needing to be checked further:
164 KDOT District 4 Car to Car
379 Highway Patrol Troop A Patch to Johnson County TRS KHP
381 Highway Patrol Troop H Chanute Ops
750 KBI Wichita
751 KBI Tactical Wichita
2167 Crawford County Fire Common
4229 Fairmont Township Fire
4230 Alexandria Township Fire
These groups are either listed as "Not Assigned" in the KDOT list or are in conflict with what KDOT says the talk group should be used for. A couple of them, TGs 750 and 751, I am fairly sure are outdated as I haven't heard them in more than a year and a half. I believe TG 751 has moved to TG 374 and TG 750 has moved to TG 387 and 388. Has anyone else heard any recent traffic on these two older talk groups? Let us know if you have.
If those people in SE Kansas and the Johnson, Neosho, Crawford, and Leavenworth Counties areas could listen or track them with software on some of the sites in their area over time to see if these group pop up on either an affiliation or channel-grant list and then submit it to the database, that would be great. (I know, absence of evidence, is not evidence of absence)
There are others I’m sure. Some of the agencies are likely not using the assigned talk groups the way they told KDOT they would be used or have possibly just been “co-opted” by one group for something else. If you notice something odd about the assigned designation to the traffic you are hearing (i.e. LAW traffic on a Building Inspector TG), post it here. Once it’s confirmed it isn’t just a temporary move or one-time thing, we can get the database annotated.
By the way, A MAJOR THANKS to all the database people who have put in the time and effort to get this data on the RR and provide this information to all of us....
OK folks, we're getting very close to having ALL of the coordinated talk groups from the KDOT templates received under the Open Records request added to the database now (about 75 or less out of the 1300 or so talk groups to go last time I compared). We need to start providing some overall ground-truth to what is in the database now.
I have run a comparison of the two lists and come up with several needing to be checked further:
164 KDOT District 4 Car to Car
379 Highway Patrol Troop A Patch to Johnson County TRS KHP
381 Highway Patrol Troop H Chanute Ops
750 KBI Wichita
751 KBI Tactical Wichita
2167 Crawford County Fire Common
4229 Fairmont Township Fire
4230 Alexandria Township Fire
These groups are either listed as "Not Assigned" in the KDOT list or are in conflict with what KDOT says the talk group should be used for. A couple of them, TGs 750 and 751, I am fairly sure are outdated as I haven't heard them in more than a year and a half. I believe TG 751 has moved to TG 374 and TG 750 has moved to TG 387 and 388. Has anyone else heard any recent traffic on these two older talk groups? Let us know if you have.
If those people in SE Kansas and the Johnson, Neosho, Crawford, and Leavenworth Counties areas could listen or track them with software on some of the sites in their area over time to see if these group pop up on either an affiliation or channel-grant list and then submit it to the database, that would be great. (I know, absence of evidence, is not evidence of absence)
There are others I’m sure. Some of the agencies are likely not using the assigned talk groups the way they told KDOT they would be used or have possibly just been “co-opted” by one group for something else. If you notice something odd about the assigned designation to the traffic you are hearing (i.e. LAW traffic on a Building Inspector TG), post it here. Once it’s confirmed it isn’t just a temporary move or one-time thing, we can get the database annotated.
By the way, A MAJOR THANKS to all the database people who have put in the time and effort to get this data on the RR and provide this information to all of us....
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factorone
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I'll keep an ear open on the Fairmount and Alexandria TGs along with whoever else wants to. I have a buddy who lives in Leavenworth and works on Fairmount as an officer. I might see if he'll let me borrow his radio and confirm some numbers.
rankin39
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4229 Fairmont Township Fire
4230 Alexandria Township Fire
LV county fire wasn't completely switched over to the trunk when last I checked. Some units are still using 154.385 and dispatch is still sumulcasting on the trunk and high band. I also hear occasional fire traffic on the tac channel of 153.95. I think when everybody gets switched over we may get a better idea of what these "township" TGs are being used for. I don't hear them active yet, but I don't monitor them all the time either.
Bob, near Tonganoxie
4230 Alexandria Township Fire
LV county fire wasn't completely switched over to the trunk when last I checked. Some units are still using 154.385 and dispatch is still sumulcasting on the trunk and high band. I also hear occasional fire traffic on the tac channel of 153.95. I think when everybody gets switched over we may get a better idea of what these "township" TGs are being used for. I don't hear them active yet, but I don't monitor them all the time either.
Bob, near Tonganoxie
terry67401
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Ok...its been a while since I've posted to the forum, but I'm stuck on a couple of things here. First and foremost, I have a PRO-107. I had been picking up KHP with no problems when I bought the thing last year. Lately, all I am getting is static and noise on the KHP channels. I live in Salina and very close to Troop C. That said, have they gone to the KSICS system and if so, is it possible for me to still get KHP traffic on my PRO-107.
Now, the software that came with the radio has the KSICS listed, but will not let me add it for some reason, but I have been able to add other talkgroups to the scanner, Wichita and Sedgwick County, for example. I am more than a little confused. I love my scanner, but I don't want to have to buy another one in order to continue to monitor KHP traffic. I see that the Radio Reference KSISC page has a ton of system frequencies. Is it possible to add those and still monitor the KSICS??
Totally lost and confused...PLEASE HELP!!
Now, the software that came with the radio has the KSICS listed, but will not let me add it for some reason, but I have been able to add other talkgroups to the scanner, Wichita and Sedgwick County, for example. I am more than a little confused. I love my scanner, but I don't want to have to buy another one in order to continue to monitor KHP traffic. I see that the Radio Reference KSISC page has a ton of system frequencies. Is it possible to add those and still monitor the KSICS??
Totally lost and confused...PLEASE HELP!!
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