Lee County P25 Systems (361.BEE00) and (AD6.BEE00)

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Want to talk a little bit about Lee County's law enforcement encryption.. and I'm going to note my recent encrypted findings from CFR-3..

It is known that all law enforcement talkgroups are 100% encrypted (with the exception of some LCPA talkgroups.. which are never used). How does this encryption work? Are they encrypting the talkgroups, or the radios? Or both? From scanning LCFD, I can conclude that the talkgroups must be the only thing encrypted, as numerous LCSO units (who work the MERTs.. so choppers and marine units mostly) are completely unencrypted when transmitting on these talkgroups. But CFR-3 is encrypted, which is not a law enforcement talkgroup.. and as Larry said, it's suspected that while the talkgroup is probably unencrypted, it was probably APD units that were chatting it up on this talkgroup - so.. the radios are encrypted?

Lee County's encryption has me at quite a daze. It seems most law enforcement talkgroups are encrypted, while some appear to be left unencrypted.

I'm going to program-in some of the unchartered waters on law enforcement talkgroups.. truly hoping there's something out there worth listening to (compared to the dud talkgroups, like everything under LCPA, that only gets traffic when AIRCOM does their morning tests). Highly doubt there will be notable traffic left unencrypted, but I'm going to see for myself lol. If anyone has thoughts on this, I would appreciate your input on it. Thanks.

Brianna

 

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How can I see the old Lee County deprecated systems? I'm looking into an old backup system that may still be in use.

 

[Bote]

How can I see the old Lee County deprecated systems? I'm looking into an old backup system that may still be in use.

Here's my old FreeScan system database for Lee County from at or before 2017. It is a link to a .996 file on my Google Drive so it will claim that it can't "play" it and offer to let you download it instead, which is DUHHH, what else would you do?

This was MY idea of how the system should be laid out for my mobile scanner, it is not a replica of the RadRef database. Since I did some work there around that time that involved public safety radio comms I tried to get more info than the average bear, but didn't get much more.

Also, snoop around the wiki here. A lot of times people collate talkgroup information in a wiki page, but never submit it so the database is not the best information source in those cases.

Or search the Florida forum for old posts about Lee County and adjacent jurisdictions where they might discuss mutual aid channels.

 

[batdude]

How can I see the old Lee County deprecated systems? I'm looking into an old backup system that may still be in use.

go here:

RRDB | Florida | Trunked Systems

All Trunked Radio Systems in Florida ({state->stateCode})

www.radioreference.com

 

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Does anyone know if Lee County School freqs are encrypted? Assuming they are unencrypted, but not sure.

EDIT: Are the Lee Health frequencies on any type of Connect/Capacity Plus?

 

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Just got some more encrypted traffic, this time on CFR-3

 

[AA4TX]

Does anyone know why the Lee Flight (Med Helos) are being dispatched on the Interop channel 7CALL 70-70D (773.2562 MHz)? This even includes Tone-Out!

 

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Does anyone know why the Lee Flight (Med Helos) are being dispatched on the Interop channel 7CALL 70-70D (773.2562 MHz)? This even includes Tone-Out!

Strange.. I've never noticed this. Maybe it's patched? I know the helos get paged out by AirMethods' AIRCOM through the "AIR OPS" talkgroup (23057), and then the medics on the ground communicate with them (helicopters) thru the "AIR TAC" talkgroup (23055)

 

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Also, does anyone know if the Mosquito Control talkgroup is active or not? I am not picking up anything...

(TGID 22276)

 

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APD-3 seems to be unencrypted as well. I'm not sure what it's used for, but it may possibly be an APD tac channel. The only traffic I'm catching is units accidentally transmitting on the wrong TG.. (APD-3)

 

[LarryVavrek]

APD-3 seems to be unencrypted as well. I'm not sure what it's used for, but it may possibly be an APD tac channel. The only traffic I'm catching is units accidentally transmitting on the wrong TG.. (APD-3)

APD-4 is used for the security specialists they handle the curb traffic. Transmissions are in the clear.

 

[batdude]

FYSA, there will be a fairly substantial update to the Lee Co P25 RR dB over the next 24-48 hours.....

stay tuned!

Lee County Public Safety (P25) Trunking System, Fort Myers, Florida

Lee County Public Safety (P25) Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

 

[batdude]

the recent submissions to the Lee County system are live on the RR dB page.

enjoy!

 

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the recent submissions to the Lee County system are live on the RR dB page.

enjoy!

thank you so much!!!!!

 

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Can confirm that all Tier-4 talkgroups for LCFD are fully encrypted. I noticed this when I was attempting to scan TAC-41 during the Luminary Hotel swatting. This seems to be some sort of tier only used for critical incidents??? Not sure. But this is the first major FD encryption finding yet since CFR-3

 

[LarryVavrek]

Johnathan

May be LEO using those channels? All PA radios use to have all channels programmed when I was there.

 

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Johnathan

May be LEO using those channels? All PA radios use to have all channels programmed when I was there.

I doubt it, as the LCSO choppers and marine units are heard unencrypted on the LG tac channels during marine emergency situations. The Tier-5 training channels were also encrypted when they did an active shooter drill yesterday at JetBlue park. I wonder if Lee Control has some way to turn on/off the encryption?

I also saw in a recent post while scrolling facebook that some DO units from Lee County EMS now have APX NEXTs. Looks like they are upgrading from the 6ks.

 

[batdude]

A significant update was posted to the database entry today for Lee County - unfortunately, it seems that 99% of the county is encrypted.

 

[xplorer417]

i have a question i don’t see fort myers pd on the system w there own tg. i only see the LCSO on the system does fort myers pd use like the south TG with in the lee county area i know lcso is on one side of fort myers and fort myers pd is on the other side of the city.

 

[scnrfrq]

i have a question i don’t see fort myers pd on the system w there own tg. i only see the LCSO on the system does fort myers pd use like the south TG with in the lee county area i know lcso is on one side of fort myers and fort myers pd is on the other side of the city.

Ft. Myers PD is listed on the system separately,