Loading Keys KFDtool

[p25p2nas]

Hello, I have seen that you can load encryption keys to APX radios through KFDtool with just a programming cable. Is this true? Every time I try, I get "Error -- A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because the connected host has failed to respond." In APX CPS, I have secure operation set to hardware and I created a key, at the bottom of the second attached image. In KFDtool, I selected DLI (IP) for type. I selected active keyset, SLN/CKR: DEC 14, Key ID 0000, algorithm AES-256, and generated a key. On the 8000, I went to the channel with the selected key. Any solutions? Thank you!

 

[prcguy]

You need a keyloading cable which is different from a programming cable.

 

[p25p2nas]

You need a keyloading cable which is different from a programming cable.

I appreciate the quick response! That’s all hardware needed? Do the settings look correct?

 

[prcguy]

I appreciate the quick response! That’s all hardware needed? Do the settings look correct?

I've seen custom keyloading cables for KFDtool and I use a Hirose cable from my KFDtool to a Motorola Hirose keyloading adapter which fits the radio. Whatever you label the key in the KFDtool software it has to match whatever you programmed into CPS for the radio key ID for the specific personality. I'm not an expert but that's what I do and it works fine.

 

[p25p2nas]

I've seen custom keyloading cables for KFDtool and I use a Hirose cable from my KFDtool to a Motorola Hirose keyloading adapter which fits the radio. Whatever you label the key in the KFDtool software it has to match whatever you programmed into CPS for the radio key ID for the specific personality. I'm not an expert but that's what I do and it works fine.

Alright, do you have links for the cables you use?

 

[KevinC]

Hello, I have seen that you can load encryption keys to APX radios through KFDtool with just a programming cable. Is this true? Every time I try, I get "Error -- A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because the connected host has failed to respond." In APX CPS, I have secure operation set to hardware and I created a key, at the bottom of the second attached image. In KFDtool, I selected DLI (IP) for type. I selected active keyset, SLN/CKR: DEC 14, Key ID 0000, algorithm AES-256, and generated a key. On the 8000, I went to the channel with the selected key. Any solutions? Thank you!

Your secure operation needs to be set to hardware. And the MACE needs to have the appropriate algorithms in it.

 

[carlos7801]

The ONLY method of software keyloading via DLI mode and OEM Porgramming cable is if the radios are BN, and if Advanced Encryption Standard is a flash option in the flashcodes of whatever radios you wanna do this with. Without the 2, your only option is to purchase a keyloader, OR KFD Keyloader device to keyload the radios.

 

[p25p2nas]

The ONLY method of software keyloading via DLI mode and OEM Porgramming cable is if the radios are BN, and if Advanced Encryption Standard is a flash option in the flashcodes of whatever radios you wanna do this with. Without the 2, your only option is to purchase a keyloader, OR KFD Keyloader device to keyload the radios.

It is an 8000 with SW-AES in the flash. I am not sure why I am getting the error then.

 

[KevinC]

Nothing to do with anything, but what’s the need for encryption? Other than AES256 is “cool”.

 

[p25p2nas]

Nothing to do with anything, but what’s the need for encryption? Other than AES256 is “cool”.

No reason. It is cool. 😆

 

[KevinC]

I went back and reread your original post. You have many things going on.

 

[p25p2nas]

I went back and reread your original post. You have many things going on.

What’s wrong

 

[daine1619]

Start with Secure Operation set to Hardware and then KVL - FIPS Level 3 Approved Mode set to Unchecked.

You will need to load your ADP keys using KFDTool to keep using them.

My settings are listed below and I use KFDTool to load Keys

 

[p25p2nas]

Start with Secure Operation set to Hardware and then KVL - FIPS Level 3 Approved Mode set to Unchecked.

You will need to load your ADP keys using KFDTool to keep using them.

My settings are listed below and I use KFDTool to load Keys

Thank you. I will try when I am home.

 

[p25p2nas]

Start with Secure Operation set to Hardware and then KVL - FIPS Level 3 Approved Mode set to Unchecked.

You will need to load your ADP keys using KFDTool to keep using them.

My settings are listed below and I use KFDTool to load Keys

Got all the CPS settings fixed. KFDtool still says error. I am on version 1.4.0 on a Windows laptop. Do you just use a programming cable? Any other settings I need to change in KFDtool? Connection port?

 

[Cavscout]

Is this what you are using ?

KFD Tool -> Hi Rose Cable -> Motorola Hi Rose Adapter (NNTN7869A - Maybe ?)

 

[p25p2nas]

Is this what you are using ?

KFD Tool -> Hi Rose Cable -> Motorola Hi Rose Adapter (NNTN7869A - Maybe ?)

Just a Motorola APX-USB programming cable.

 

[mikewazowski]

Just a Motorola APX-USB programming cable.

You need a keyloading cable which is different from a programming cable.

 

[daine1619]

NNTN7869B (about 90 bucks or so) and the corresponding cable to interface with your KFD Device is what you need now

 

[p25p2nas]

NNTN7869B about 90 bucks or so it what you need now

Ok thank you