Macon/Bibb FD moves again, PD coming soon

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Thanks ,you guys amaze me with your ability to figure out how to make these scanner operate correctly. I'm not really sure how to set this on ID search mode, time to read that manual .
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Can somebody comment on this post from RRR in the Database Admin forum?

The "old" Bibb county system actually IS still in use, the Sheriff's office is still on it.



The only dept. currently on the "new" system, which uses *some* of the "old" frequencies, is the Fire Dept.


From what I could see from the files that were sent to me, the old system he is referring to was replaced by the new Motorola P25 system for the City Services only. Can anybody still find any sign of that system still on the air? I think the frequencies for the new system are the same as the old system m

I believe the fire department is on the new Harris system which doesn't share any frequencies.
 

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Charlesdotcc, can you run Pro96Com on the City Services system and post the contents of the site.txt file which shows the frequencies in use?

Hopefully that will show that *all* the frequencies of the old system are being reused for the new P25 City Services system and put this to rest once and for all.

RRR, if you want, I'll make the old system active for a day or two if you want to download it. Once you've got it downloaded, I'll put it back to Deprecated.
 

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I was wanting the old Albany, Ga. system.

There are currently 2 systems in use in Macon-Bibb county. The one and only "old" system, currently used by the SO/PD (or what was the PD) and the "New" system, used by the Fire dept. When all the new Harris radios have been purchased and are in the hands of those who need them, then the new Harris system will be used by the S.O. Until then, the old Mot system will be used, regardless of what is assumed to the contrary.

Regardless, the database is all messed up. Too quick to jump to depreciate systems, and too slow to update new information. Take Baldwin county, for example. A sizeable county in middle Georgia, with a vague mention of the 800MHZ system Baldwin county and Milledgeville police have been on for well over a year now.

Regardless, why not include ALL systems for each county on the download page, and mark the depreciated ones as such. That way we can decide for ourselves what is good for us, and what we want. Would sure give my fingers a break from having to program by hand.
 
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There are currently 2 systems in use in Macon-Bibb county. The one and only "old" system, currently used by the SO/PD (or what was the PD) and the "New" system, used by the Fire dept. When all the new Harris radios have been purchased and are in the hands of those who need them, then the new Harris system will be used by the S.O. Until then, the old Mot system will be used, regardless of what is assumed to the contrary.

Until charlesdotcc posts the Pro96Com file showing which frequencies are in use and how often, I'll reserve judgement on this.

Regardless, the database is all messed up. Too quick to jump to depreciate systems, and too slow to update new information. Take Baldwin county, for example. A sizeable county in middle Georgia, with a vague mention of the 800MHZ system Baldwin county and Milledgeville police have been on for well over a year now.

I find it odd that you're complaining when your submission history shows 0 submissions? The site relies on it's member to submit information. When you don't submit, nothing gets updated.

Regardless, why not include ALL systems for each county on the download page, and mark the depreciated ones as such. That way we can decide for ourselves what is good for us, and what we want. Would sure give my fingers a break from having to program by hand.

I've set the system to Normal status so you can grab it now. I'll start a new thread asking for confirmation the system is still on the air. Once again, all you had to do was submit information that the site was still on the air.

Unfortunately systems that are no longer on the air will always be Deprecated. If a system is mistakenly marked as Deprecated that is still on the air, than it's up to the members to submit information to the contrary.
 

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Hi guys,

Whew .. these things can never be simple, eh?

Well, so, no, sorry, I'd prefer not to run Pro96 right now, at least during the day. That radio is running feed duty now and I'd like to leave it up, at least during "core hours". I don't mind trying it some late night, so I can do that some night this week if we want.

But, I will say this - RRR, are you *sure* SO/PD isn't now on the new Harris P25 system? It seems they just moved over literally 5 days ago (last Thursday-ish), and you've told us you're only in Macon about once a month for a few hours. Have you been here and confirmed you've heard SO/PD on the old system since Friday? Also, you seem to imply you have an authoritative source for info on the move - can you share with us the veracity of your source?

Additionally, please feel free to inspect the config file I sent mjbjr last Friday to reprogram the SO/PD feed, which you can hear for yourself is up and running. I can't guarantee he's using that file and that's the reason it's working now, but that was the intention and my understanding of what actually happened. The file and post are here - http://forums.radioreference.com/2174294-post114.html . That config file has the new SO/PD TGIDs as reported by "maw", on the new Harris system.

I do *not* believe the database is all messed, in fact I think we just got it back to a known-good place.
And like MikeOxlong said, if you're looking for a talkgroup that's not already listed, it's time to put your radio on "ID Search" and see what you can discover. Although I imagine what we've already found (Fire, SO/PD, Water, and Transit) is going to cover 90% of people want.

-Charles
 
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Well, so, no, sorry, I'd prefer not to run Pro96 right now, at least during the day. That radio is running feed duty now and I'd like to leave it up, at least during "core hours". I don't mind trying it some late night, so I can do that some night this week if we want.

-Charles


Would you have the original files you posted up for me last week? I took a look and they were gone.

That might be enough to solve this.
 

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I don't actually have a site.txt, I have a towerxxxxx.txt, but I'm pretty sure that's still what you want .. see attached.

System 00A is the new Harris system that I'm calling the Public Safety system.
System 1B6 is the "other" system that is in question and which I believe is the old system and I'm calling "City Services".
 

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Thanks, that's what I wanted.

It shows that all the frequencies from the old City Services system (563b) are in use on the new P25 system.
 

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Do you have that list of the old frequencies from 563b? I checked the deprecated system, but it had already been changed to the shorter list (like 6 freq) before it was archived. I think the old system had something like 12? Just curious at this point...
 

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Charles I am using the file you sent me,and it was working I know as of this afternoon. I havent received any reports so i assume its fine.
 

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Charles,mike or anyone..what can i do to help this get updated correctly? YOull need to be specific cause Im still learning.
 

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Hey man,
I don't think we need anything more at this point really, except somebody should submit the new talkgroups to the database. @maw - you id'ed them originally - have you found anymore, and can you submit your findings to the database? @MikeOxlong explained the process in an earlier post if you're unfamiliar.

-Charles
 

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Just got the Bcd536hp today hoping to hear some traffic from Macon Bibb county sheriff ,but nothing except what already receive with hp1, can anyone tell me what might wrong before I send this back.l am hoping something s not set right.we are on Harris DTMA phase II .this scanner should pick this up.
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The problem is that nobody has submitted the new Sheriff TGIDs for inclusion in the database yet, or if they have, the information hasn't been reviewed and published yet. Unless you program it by hand, your scanners pull everything they need to know from the database, and if the talkgroups aren't in the database, you're not going to hear them.

It is not a a problem with your HP1 or 536.

And FYI, even the Macon-Bibb systems are Phase II "capable", they're only running in Phase I right now, so both your HP1 and 536 are capable of receiving the system as they stand today. That's not to say they couldn't move to Phase II at any time, so fair warning, but for right now - the HP1 is all you need (assuming you're in-range of the system, of course). As a matter of fact, both the Fire and Sheriff audio feed on radioreference use Phase I-only radios, and they're working fine.
 
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