boatbod
Member
We're trying to get the USCG on those channels too, but the more agencies, the bigger the challenge!
We're trying to get the USCG on those channels too, but the more agencies, the bigger the challenge!
Another Water Rescue at the Bay Bridge Today. MSP Aviation, Queen Anne, Annapolis Fireboat, NRP Officers, NRP Dispatchers, and Queen Anne's Comm Center all operating on Marine Tac 2.
I don't monitor DLLR PD (8120) or Maryland Capitol Police Baltimore Ops (7853) but have noticed on Unitrunker that DLLR PD appears to not use their talkgroup anymore and now operates on MCP Balt Ops for primary communications.
I just caught up on my recordings..
I caught part of the same call you mentioned. It sounded like...
Cecil dispatch telling Station 2 to disregard the Dispatch/Call.
I'm leaning this way for the primary EMS/Fire TG's (It's how I tagged them in my programing. For now
)
Code:
EMS/Fire Response 12201
Ops 2 12202
Ops 3 12203
Ops 4 12204
Ops 5 12205
Ops 6 12206
EMS Ops 12207
Med8/Elkton Union Hospital 12208
Med4/Harford Memorial Hospital 12209
Fire Police 12210
FD/PD? 12211
EMS/Fire Dispatch 12360
EMS/Fire Dispatch 12360[/CODE]
Is everybody ready?
If I only lived closer!
Been getting some keyups/testing with Cecil talkgroups on the Kent site. Hoping some users stay in range of the Kent Site during the changeover.
To be honest, there isn't much to "hear", so far just key ups, silence and test counts, an occasional ID is confirmed by reading back the number.. No mentions of actual CH names yet.. Just waiting for it go live.. Then you'll be hearing them!!
Mostly using DSD+ to get a grip on things... (You would pretty much have to Avoid/LO all other active TG's in order to catch anything)
FiRST Unknown Talkgroups
Notes from the RCB Meeting earlier this week:
New Primary User: DHS
- Not day-to-day usage
- No dispatch operations
- 4 TGs enabled statewide
- 600 TDMA subscribers
- Important since their home system does not have coverage in the OC area
(notes: FIRST has mostly regional TGs, although some user groups have statewide TGs, like Comptroller)
New Primary User: CPB
- 5 TGs: 1 statewide, 4 regional (Baltimore)
- 100 TDMA subscribers
- Also wants TG sharing w/ MSP, MdTA, DHS, FBI, DNR, TSA, USCG, Air Marshals
(notes: Most Baltimore City subscribers are not TDMA compatible thus rarely use the system. Exceptions are the command bus and Foxtrot units.)
New Interop User: USPP
- 1000 TDMA radios
- TG sharing with MSP, MdTA, and other agencies
- Important for aviation / Eagle helos
New Interop User: Chester Co. PA
- Home system Harris TDMA
- Interops primarily with Cecil Co.
- 204 portable TDMA / 68 mobile TDMA subscribers
- Currently uses C-Comm system for interoperability (Southeastern PA Task Group)
Cecil Co looking at crosslinks for interoperability with New Castle Co DE
DE is slowly beginning to understand that their (janky) FDMA subscribers are a real problem when operating on FIRST, hogging 3 resources. New DE radios will be TDMA capable; reflashing existing radios will take several years
DE helos are TDMA
Newark radios are almost all TDMA
Cecil cutover this coming Thursday, 6am
Ethernet backhaul will be required for system 7.20; some local jurisdictions face a sizable bill. Discussion about who is responsible for the cost. Localities have incompatible equipment that enables local functions that are not directly part of the FIRST system, but will need to be upgraded to work with FIRST.
11 new RF sites are planned to fill in coverage "holes;" planning to fund 3 per year for the next few years
- Tower Road / Camp David ASR
- Cherrytown Chicken ASR (tower lease just signed, Carroll to provide backhaul)
- Table Rock ASR (site cleared, foundation set. Complete by end of year.)
- New Germany State Park ASR (prob use existing site)
- Crisfield ASR (going on county tower at Crisfield VFD)
- Nice Bridge ASR should be complete by October
- TV Hill ASR (fill in dead spot near Falls Road Light Rail) . MTA funds, April-May 2020 timframe
- Cecilton ASR (equipment in place, not enabled - maybe Thursday?)
System 7.18 upgrade March-June 2020
Syste 7.20 upgrade 2H2021, depending on ethernet upgrade status
CEN upgrade contiuing
Cecil move to Zone 3 complete with JFK and North East sites finishing migration
Cecil 2-channel upgrade in place to support GPS
Cecil LEOs - some users already on system; crosslinks between existing Cecil system to FIRST
Montgomery County simulcast cell being redesigned
OC ASR antenna relocation; want to raise transmit antenna, and move to a different tower leg to improve coverage in northwest Worcester. Current height is only 1/2 way up tower, will need to coordinate with Region 42 and new FCC license
Garrett County up and running, but the county needs to buy new radios; state loaning consolettes to enable usage
MTA 2ch upgrade to support Purple line. Discussion about the legality of using 700Mhz freqs for non-public safety users. Dorc hestewr has been denied the use for their MTA funded bus system. MTA Police will use 700; busses use 800Mhz, taken from port operations
McHenry Barrack transition on August 7th
New Primary User: DHS
- Not day-to-day usage
- No dispatch operations
- 4 TGs enabled statewide
- 600 TDMA subscribers
- Important since their home system does not have coverage in the OC area
(notes: FIRST has mostly regional TGs, although some user groups have statewide TGs, like Comptroller)
New Primary User: CPB
- 5 TGs: 1 statewide, 4 regional (Baltimore)
- 100 TDMA subscribers
- Also wants TG sharing w/ MSP, MdTA, DHS, FBI, DNR, TSA, USCG, Air Marshals
(notes: Most Baltimore City subscribers are not TDMA compatible thus rarely use the system. Exceptions are the command bus and Foxtrot units.)
New Interop User: USPP
- 1000 TDMA radios
- TG sharing with MSP, MdTA, and other agencies
- Important for aviation / Eagle helos
New Interop User: Chester Co. PA
- Home system Harris TDMA
- Interops primarily with Cecil Co.
- 204 portable TDMA / 68 mobile TDMA subscribers
- Currently uses C-Comm system for interoperability (Southeastern PA Task Group)
Cecil Co looking at crosslinks for interoperability with New Castle Co DE
DE is slowly beginning to understand that their (janky) FDMA subscribers are a real problem when operating on FIRST, hogging 3 resources. New DE radios will be TDMA capable; reflashing existing radios will take several years
DE helos are TDMA
Newark radios are almost all TDMA
Cecil cutover this coming Thursday, 6am
Ethernet backhaul will be required for system 7.20; some local jurisdictions face a sizable bill. Discussion about who is responsible for the cost. Localities have incompatible equipment that enables local functions that are not directly part of the FIRST system, but will need to be upgraded to work with FIRST.
11 new RF sites are planned to fill in coverage "holes;" planning to fund 3 per year for the next few years
- Tower Road / Camp David ASR
- Cherrytown Chicken ASR (tower lease just signed, Carroll to provide backhaul)
- Table Rock ASR (site cleared, foundation set. Complete by end of year.)
- New Germany State Park ASR (prob use existing site)
- Crisfield ASR (going on county tower at Crisfield VFD)
- Nice Bridge ASR should be complete by October
- TV Hill ASR (fill in dead spot near Falls Road Light Rail) . MTA funds, April-May 2020 timframe
- Cecilton ASR (equipment in place, not enabled - maybe Thursday?)
System 7.18 upgrade March-June 2020
Syste 7.20 upgrade 2H2021, depending on ethernet upgrade status
CEN upgrade contiuing
Cecil move to Zone 3 complete with JFK and North East sites finishing migration
Cecil 2-channel upgrade in place to support GPS
Cecil LEOs - some users already on system; crosslinks between existing Cecil system to FIRST
Montgomery County simulcast cell being redesigned
OC ASR antenna relocation; want to raise transmit antenna, and move to a different tower leg to improve coverage in northwest Worcester. Current height is only 1/2 way up tower, will need to coordinate with Region 42 and new FCC license
Garrett County up and running, but the county needs to buy new radios; state loaning consolettes to enable usage
MTA 2ch upgrade to support Purple line. Discussion about the legality of using 700Mhz freqs for non-public safety users. Dorc hestewr has been denied the use for their MTA funded bus system. MTA Police will use 700; busses use 800Mhz, taken from port operations
McHenry Barrack transition on August 7th
USPP would be nice addition if not all encrypted.
I think Delaware gonna get new radios for Fire companies that border Cecil..
Who is CPB? Or is that CBP?
I think Delaware gonna get new radios for Fire companies that border Cecil..
Who is CPB? Or is that CBP?
Yup, typo: Customs and Border Protection aka CBP.USPP would be nice addition if not all encrypted.
I think Delaware gonna get new radios for Fire companies that border Cecil..
Who is CPB? Or is that CBP?
I would imagine that USPP would operate in the clear on MSP, MdTA and other channels that are not normally encrypted.
Excellent on USPP as their choppers don't get out this way often
but nice addition for possible Statewide and border areas of the Potomac.
Calls originating from AA Co are still using Juliette when QAC units are running mutual aid on water rescues. I wonder if the QAC EOC either patches one of their Tacs, or operates directly on the Marine TAC channel? I'm assuming that AA EOC cannot talk directly on the Marine TACs - not sure about this.
It seemed like they were active on the Marine Tac-2 as was most units. I have noticed it patched sometimes to QA Tac-3 too.
$3 Million was requested for Radios but only $100,000 was approved for FY2020.
https://www.garrettcounty.org/resources/commissioners/pdf/Budgets/budget20/FY20-Approved-Budget.pdf
They did fund dispatch console(s) however - $823K. I guess they are still hoping for grant money for the subscribers.
Yeah I saw that. I wondered if that was more for the Text to 911 features but also could be for FiRST. I believe they are calling it NextGen for the texting feature.
I think the Emergency Numbers Board funds text-to-911 with grants, especially to small jurisdictions. I am thinking it's for dispatch consoles; in the RCB meeting they mentioned that the state was "loaning" the county consolettes to operate on FIRST. Perhaps they are a bridge until the new equipment is installed.
emtLarmy15
Member
What’s the point of consoles with no subscriber units...
They have a few radios already, apparently to interoperate with MSP? I guess their dispatch center would like to talk as well. Doesn't seem to be a well planned rollout on the county side.
