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DEVIL-11 flight up and headed North ZDC 363.00>ZNY 323.300 >ZNY 322.400 and A/A 298.600.
There is a Res up at the Duke MOA till 0130z.
2135 - DEVIL flt on the way home, hear female pilot mention landing RWY13

2143 - TIS-B pinging, I’m thinking this is DEVIL flt. 2000ft 300kt
 
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I heard this. Sounded a bit out of the ordinary.
Zombie is usually used by the USCG helos for intercept training on 228.900 with Huntress (and locally on 345.000 or 237.900) for training between helos for intercept practice. They coordinate with Huntress when the Bogey flight (the interceptee) usually a CAP fixed wing or helo is training with them. Something like Zombie 1 to Bogey 1 you are being intercepted blah blah blah.

When coordinating with Huntress (usually on 228.900) Huntress will identify the TOI (the CAP aircraft) to the helos and will direct them to the target with target bearing,range, altitude and aspect...aka BRAA.

Most likely that is what was happening.

What is a BRAA ?​


BRAA is a standardized way to give information about a contact (C) to a pilot (P). BRAA is the acronym of:

  • Bearing : Angle of C to P, it is the heading that P should take to have C in its 12 o’clock
  • Range : Distance between P and C
  • Altitude : Altitude of C
  • Aspect : Aspect of C for P, it could be cold (C is in same direction than P), hot ( C is coming on P ), or flanking ( left right or right left mouvment for P )

By using BRAA everytime, communication is more efficient and faster, pilot is waiting the BRAA data in the right order.
 

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Zombie is usually used by the USCG helos for intercept training on 228.900 with Huntress (and locally on 345.000 or 237.900) for training between helos for intercept practice. They coordinate with Huntress when the Bogey flight (the interceptee) usually a CAP fixed wing or helo is training with them. Something like Zombie 1 to Bogey 1 you are being intercepted blah blah blah.

When coordinating with Huntress (usually on 228.900) Huntress will identify the TOI (the CAP aircraft) to the helos and will direct them to the target with target bearing,range, altitude and aspect...aka BRAA.

Most likely that is what was happening.

What is a BRAA ?​


BRAA is a standardized way to give information about a contact (C) to a pilot (P). BRAA is the acronym of:

  • Bearing : Angle of C to P, it is the heading that P should take to have C in its 12 o’clock
  • Range : Distance between P and C
  • Altitude : Altitude of C
  • Aspect : Aspect of C for P, it could be cold (C is in same direction than P), hot ( C is coming on P ), or flanking ( left right or right left mouvment for P )

By using BRAA everytime, communication is more efficient and faster, pilot is waiting the BRAA data in the right order.
Yep that’s exactly what it sounded like, thanks. That’s the first time I’ve heard any of the Coast Guard intercept training. What threw me off was the Bigfoot call sign and only hearing the ground side, which is the opposite of what I usually hear.
 

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1100L- Viper Demo Team A2A on 384.550 strong signal over North Central West Virginia.
Thursday is usually travel day for up and coming airshows and schedule has them this week.
September 13-15 - London, Ontario, Canada :)

Dover C-5M #85-0002 Jumbo-71 doing missed approaches up at Niagara Falls airport.. Prob turning some heads doing that.
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Several heavies inbound London Airport Ontario.
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Grit-58 C-17 #04-4135 up from Altus.
PAWN-54 KC-135 #60-0351 also up from Altus OK.
Rch-2020 C-5M #87-0037 from Mass.
 
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DVIDS images of MONK31 flt refueling over the North Sea yesterday with Mildenhall KC-135s.
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Question for the VA guys.

Do you know if the Navy acft use a discrete set of A2A freqs when they are working in W386? I usually hear the Langley acft when they are in W386 but I've not been able to hear the Navy F-18s who I know are working in the same areas at the same altitudes as the Langley acft. I have a bunch of A2A freqs for some of the F-18s (Victory, Ram Roman, Party) from Jared's list, but have not heard anything on them so far. Any help would be appreciated.
 

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BISON 71 working Viper earlier. When they entered advised ZBW 123.875 that they were MARSA with all players, they also accidentally keyed up on 123.875 and were heard calling MISFIT 10 advising them we are now up on AM on 149.100. Also heard HYDRA 20 enroute to the Fort Drum Range, sounded like an MQ-9, a new NY ANG callsign for me if that's who it was. Reviewing the achives now to try and find who else was in there, nothing heard so far on the usual VT and MA ANG A-A frequencies.
 
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