New Legacy Scanner Upgrade Program

[BrianG61UK]

If the radios are all essentially the same after the upgrade, there is something to be said for keeping all of the common issues and questions in the same forum.

Just "something"?
Nearer "everything" I'd say.
It seems like the obvious thing to do.

The only possible reason (still not much of a reason) to stay in the GRE section would be if you had a question about the migration of your old data or found something you thought wasn't quite like a "real" WS1080 you wanted to ask about.

Since the original question had a smiley face after it I assumed it was a joke.

 

[buddrousa]

Did the administration team and moderators say this?Or is just a assumption on your part?Not busting balls just for clarification.Thanks

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Read post #1 in this thread. This statement is from the Whistler Rep and she goes on to answer other questions. As stated by Whistler Wendy your 18 668 800 will become a 1080.

 

[Swipesy]

To split hairs, the 800 is still an 800 hardware wise and thus the special button in EZScan 1080 to adjust the 800 battery levels.

 

[BrianG61UK]

To split hairs, the 800 is still an 800 hardware wise and thus the special button in EZScan 1080 to adjust the 800 battery levels.

No.

That button says "PSR-800/PRO-18/Early WS-1080" implying no difference between the upgraded PSR-800 or PRO-18 and an early WS-1080.

 

[DJ11DLN]

Egad.:roll:

 

[CycleSycho]

To split hairs, the 800 is still an 800 hardware wise and thus the special button in EZScan 1080 to adjust the 800 battery levels.

:wink: It has been said the hardware is 100% the same. It has been told many times the only difference was the programming/firmware and the name (company selling) only. That is what I have been led to believe for quite a long time. IF someone has pictures/documents that show differences in hardware, or documents showing differences in hardware, can you please post said pictures and source documents? Thank you, am interested in putting this issue to bed, forward. :wink:

 

[biomedbob]

Sensitivity

My ws1080 is deaf next to my HP-1 using the same attenna. Should I do a factory reset through the EZScan software?

What else should I try?

Thanks!

 

[JERRYBIGJ]

To split hairs, the 800 is still an 800 hardware wise and thus the special button in EZScan 1080 to adjust the 800 battery levels.

I looked at that button after reading this and that button is for the receive signal bars not battery levels. Looks like the older units updated need higher numbers then the other models.
Jerry

 

[johnnyelectron]

Can't get a DMR UHF to save my life

Anybody having trouble receiving a DMR station after paying for the upgrade? I tried my UHF station in conventional with the TS, CC, ID, and then again with all "ANY" for all 3 choices. Nothing. Tried making a 'trunked system" of the UHF DMR station with the one frequency- nothing.
Now a VHF DMR single frequency was set in conventional and it works, and it's twice as far away as the UHF I can't hear and I didn't have to make it a trunked system or anything.
Any more suggestions how to get this DMR to pop in my 668 paid upgrade to 1080?

 

[APX8000]

:wink: It has been said the hardware is 100% the same. It has been told many times the only difference was the programming/firmware and the name (company selling) only. That is what I have been led to believe for quite a long time. IF someone has pictures/documents that show differences in hardware, or documents showing differences in hardware, can you please post said pictures and source documents? Thank you, am interested in putting this issue to bed, forward. :wink:

And that's why I just use Eric's tool for my PSR-800. I can still program it through Whistler handheld EZscan, update the DSP and hear DMR. So why are people paying for the upgrade if the hardware is the same ?




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[buddrousa]

Be cause it is the right thing to do and what we ask for 2 years ago when RS and GRE both had problems.

 

[EricCottrell]

Hello,

Pro-668 is the same hardware as a WS-1080. The case and branding are different.

The battery charger circuit in the PSR-800 is reported as being different. There may be other differences due to replacing obsolete components, but it seems firmware compatible except for the battery charging. The Pro-18 additionally has no LEDs. It would be interesting to know if the anyone with an officially upgraded Pro-18 has LED menu selections and if they do anything. Likely you can set them, but nothing happens.

The Whistler upgrade gains you support and the latest version of the firmware. I stopped updating my tool so I would not compete against this.

73 Eric

 

[BrianG61UK]

Hello,

Pro-668 is the same hardware as a WS-1080. The case and branding are different.

The battery charger circuit in the PSR-800 is reported as being different. There may be other differences due to replacing obsolete components, but it seems firmware compatible except for the battery charging. The Pro-18 additionally has no LEDs. It would be interesting to know if the anyone with an officially upgraded Pro-18 has LED menu selections and if they do anything. Likely you can set them, but nothing happens.

The Whistler upgrade gains you support and the latest version of the firmware. I stopped updating my tool so I would not compete against this.

73 Eric

If the hardware is 100% identical why does your tool even need to be updated for new versions of the firmware?

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[EricCottrell]

If the hardware is 100% identical why does your tool even need to be updated for new versions of the firmware?

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Hello,

The hardware is the same, but the bootloader is different. Whistler added a check to the WS-1080 firmware that only enables P25 and DMR when the WS-1080 bootloader is present.

73 Eric

 

[APX8000]

So I wait for two years and for someone else to come up with a way to update it. Then Whistler comes out and magically figures out two years later how to do it ? And then charge for it. C'mon...they wanted your money then to buy a new model with the exact same hardware for DMR support until Eric came to the table. And then they still charge for "support." Give me a break. Fix the real issue...like LSM support and I'll update or buy a new model. Until then I give my money to equipment that actually works out of the box.


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[fredva]

So I wait for two years and for someone else to come up with a way to update it. Then Whistler comes out and magically figures out two years later how to do it ? And then charge for it. C'mon...they wanted your money then to buy a new model with the exact same hardware for DMR support until Eric came to the table. And then they still charge for "support." Give me a break. Fix the real issue...like LSM support and I'll update or buy a new model. Until then I give my money to equipment that actually works out of the box.


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If you are going to give your money to equipment that works out of the box, then you are free to sell your PSR-800 to somebody who will put it through the upgrade. Just make sure the buyer knows it doesn't have the official upgrade yet, so they can take that into account when determining a fair price.

 

[markn455]

With a couple of little minor issues I go my upgraded scanner to work great. This morning I ran the programming software which automatically downloaded an update to the software. The update included a firmware update to 4.8. I let it run the update which promptly fails and will not recover. I downloaded the firmware updater to 4.8 and attempted to install that way. The update fails.

I tried again using the Firmware Updater utility which Whistler sent me to recover from the first time this happened. The updater got me back to 4.7 successfully. For now, I am preventing the programming software from installing the firmware update to 4.8 until Whistler has a chance to fix this problem

Is anyone else having a similar issue?

Mark
WB5SLA

 

[scosgt]

Hello,

Pro-668 is the same hardware as a WS-1080. The case and branding are different.

The battery charger circuit in the PSR-800 is reported as being different. There may be other differences due to replacing obsolete components, but it seems firmware compatible except for the battery charging. The Pro-18 additionally has no LEDs. It would be interesting to know if the anyone with an officially upgraded Pro-18 has LED menu selections and if they do anything. Likely you can set them, but nothing happens.

The Whistler upgrade gains you support and the latest version of the firmware. I stopped updating my tool so I would not compete against this.

73 Eric

On my 2 PRO-18's with the Eric firmware the LEDs appear in the menu AND they work in the demo program on the PC. Of course, no physical LED exists on the units, but the firmware still sends the commands.

 

[teknishun]

With a couple of little minor issues I go my upgraded scanner to work great. This morning I ran the programming software which automatically downloaded an update to the software. The update included a firmware update to 4.8. I let it run the update which promptly fails and will not recover. I downloaded the firmware updater to 4.8 and attempted to install that way. The update fails.

I tried again using the Firmware Updater utility which Whistler sent me to recover from the first time this happened. The updater got me back to 4.7 successfully. For now, I am preventing the programming software from installing the firmware update to 4.8 until Whistler has a chance to fix this problem

Is anyone else having a similar issue?

Mark
WB5SLA

I had the same issue with the CPU upgrade to 4.8 using a PSR-800 that Whistler had converted to WS-1080. I have 2 of them and they both failed. Unplug the usb cable from the scanner. Remove the batteries. Wait several seconds and then re-connect the usb cable to both the pc and the scanner. Let the pc recognize the scanner as an external hard drive as per usual. Do not install the batteries at this time, leave them out. Try the cpu update again and it should work OK.

 

[markn455]

I had the same issue with the CPU upgrade to 4.8 using a PSR-800 that Whistler had converted to WS-1080. I have 2 of them and they both failed. Unplug the usb cable from the scanner. Remove the batteries. Wait several seconds and then re-connect the usb cable to both the pc and the scanner. Let the pc recognize the scanner as an external hard drive as per usual. Do not install the batteries at this time, leave them out. Try the cpu update again and it should work OK.

I will give that a try, thanks.


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