OFFICIAL MSWIN Thread

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The 5 digit site numbers that are shown on all the maps were pretty much set in stone long ago I believe. Don't forsee much change at all in them. The letter suffix on the numbers shown on the maps indicate the proposed site revision. So a D on the end means that was the fourth actual location assessed. I believe this was all handled in the Motorola contract as can be witnessed in the SCIP examples posted on the WCC web site.

There are 4 active MW licenses for locations in Hinds county as follows.
Site 20110 located extreme SW corner of county
Site 20109 located just slightly south of the center of the county.
Site 20114 located in Jackson and is a BANT. (antenna on building, The Walter Sillers State Office Building 550 High Street
to be exact)

Site 20123 is also shown as being in Hinds county near the Rankin county line, east and little south of 21109. This one is a little suspicious as it is shown on the contractor map as being in Rankin county but that map also has it at Rev A so those mapped points could easily been early in the phase 2 site selection process.
 

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I am refferring to broadcast SID from the repeater... Its the only one of the P1 sites that hasn't changed to a new SID Also on the contractors maps.. the PCS Primary Control Site is in Rankin County for P2..... Not Jackson. Anyway the rest of the Hinds, will all be P2 sites... The first of the P2 sites isnt scheduled to begin broadcasting till after Christmas. Then over the next year the P2A will come alive. That will give full coverage from the Gulf Coast through the I-20 corridor, and up I-55 to the P3 line. They will then extend up the Highway 61, and Bama line area, and finally fill in the rest in P2B, and P2C.... All the Hinds sites get priority, then the rest of Troop C.... Oh Hugh these sites will e hard to miss lol.. they are freaking huge!
 

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Ahh...so many numbers and names......LOL

Meeting minutes for August are posted. Very interesting stuff.

Wireless Communication Commission - > August 6, 2009

"Chairman Epps recognized Bill Roach to discuss the emergency purchase authorization for
construction of up to 7 towers. Mr. Roach noted that we had been proceeding on a schedule to
have all of Phase 1 and a lot of Phase 2 of the Project completed by late this fall. Motorola is
building some of the towers. We have had a build-to-suit vendor in Phase 1 build some of the
towers as well. As discussed in prior Commission Meetings, ITS had issued another RFP for
build-to-suit contractors for towers to the north of here. That RFP was contested by a vendor and
the Commission determined to rebid that RFP. So that we will not lose a significant amount of
time in building out towers in the area right around Jackson, to the east of Jackson on I-20 over to
about the Morton area; west on I-20 to Vicksburg; north on I-55 to the Pickens area and across
49N over to the Lake Providence area, we have done an Emergency Purchase to award six (6)
towers in that area to Towers of Mississippi. Also added to that is a tower for the Highway Patrol
Dispatch Center in Harrison County which is a new center expected to open in October. A tower
was needed there to link their dispatch into the system.
Initially we will be leasing the six (6)
towers from Towers of Mississippi and will own the tower at the Highway Patrol. Commissioner
Epps approved that Emergency Purchase. We are bringing the approval to the Commission for
notification. Emergency Purchase regulations require that notification be in the minutes of the
first Commission meeting after being executed by the Executive Director.

Chairman Epps recognized Bill Roach to give the Commission a MSWIN Project Update. Mr.
Roach reported that the project is running a little behind the escalated hurricane season
schedule. Initially we expected to be completely in Wide Area Trunking from Jackson to the
Coast by June. That didn’t happen and it looks like it will probably be September before we have
all those sites up and running. There are a number of reasons including some Environmental
Historical Preservation issues with the site in Adams County. We had to do a balloon test with
the Natchez Trace Administration allowing them to drive up and down the Trace to see how high
the tower is going to be. We passed that test and now we have to go through zoning in Adams
County. We have about a mile long power run in the Utica area where we had some trouble
because one of the landowners lives in Seattle. We had trouble getting the right-of-way for the
power company. Working on issues like these has kept us from being as timely as we had
hoped.
As stated last month, we have converted the site on the top of the Sillers Building over to MSWIN.
Now if you are driving from Jackson toward the coast, you have portable hand held radio
coverage from north of Madison to Piney Woods. Coverage drops at Piney Woods and picks
back up just north of Mendenhall. On mobile, you have coverage almost all the way. This will not
have a negative effect if we have a hurricane event because we could always stand up a SOW in
the middle in order to get that coverage."
 

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Very interesting.. At least 2 new sites not on the old maps.... And I have no idea how to get a map of the M sites.... We can get the ToM and other contractor stuff easily. OK so they fell behind by a month from the FEMA, and NTNP Historical Impact extra crap...The Simpson, Copiah, and at least one other Hinds site were expected to be up and aren't.... Still ahead of the schedule that PSC had lol.... OK the other two Natchez sites should be up ad trunking within a short time.... The Third Jefferson site should also be up... I'll call it Alcorn???
 

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Alcorn?? LOL Kinda far from Jefferson Co. eh? hehe :p

3 sites in Jefferson Co. are Jefferson North, Fayette, and Union Church.

Well they emergency funded 7 towers and emergency awarded the 6 in the Jackson area to ToM so that really only leaves the D8 Dispatch one unaccounted for. Not sure why /\/\ was even mentioned as building towers in the first place. Or maybe my math is not as good as theirs. LOL
 
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OK so with the info from PSC, and the newest MWCC minutes... We should expect that we have coverage from Vicksburg down to LA, over to Jackson, at least theat much of the I-20, and Highway 64.... As well as the whole of the Highway 84 , and I-55 from Jackson to LA fully done by October,.... If there are no more issues, but I would still expect delays till Christmas before ALL of P2A is able to fully trunk.... Guys in the Troop C area.. take a listen and see what you get.... And they are fully 24/7 till hurricane season is done at least,.. Then they will slow down some anyway....
 

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Alcorn State University...... JCSO does security work for them during football season.. LOL And N Jefferson County sits right near that. And meant 61 lol too fast on that tappin
 
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Oh, hehe, never really known much about Alcorn State. I guess if asked I would have guessed it was in Alcorn, MS. LOL
 

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Governor's test of MSWIN

Found this article online regarding Barbour's recent test of MSWIN while he was down here for the 4th anniversary for Katrina.

September 1, 2009

GOVERNOR BARBOUR DEMONSTRATES NEW EMERGENCY RADIO SYSTEM FOR FIRST TIME

GULFPORT, Mississippi – Governor Haley Barbour today conducted the first public demonstration of a new wireless emergency communications network designed to allow officials and first responders to communicate quickly and effectively in times of crisis.

In a demonstration staged from the emergency operations center at the National Guard Headquarters in Gulfport, which would serve as the state’s forward operations center during an actual Gulf Coast emergency, Governor Barbour used the new Mississippi Wireless Integrated Network (MSWIN) for the first time. He connected with agents of the Mississippi Department of Marine Resources, who were on duty in the Gulf of Mexico; the Mississippi Emergency Management Agency and Mississippi Department of Public Safety about 160 miles to the north in Jackson; and the Jackson County Emergency Operations Center about 40 miles to the east in Pascagoula.

“Four years ago today, we quickly discovered that Hurricane Katrina had obliterated communications systems not only along the Gulf Coast but also far inland. First responders were unable to talk to each other except face-to-face, which was disastrous in and of itself as everyone was trying to get help to people who needed it immediately,” Governor Barbour said.

“Today, I am pleased to report to the people of Mississippi, we are developing a reliable, sustainable new system designed to vastly improve the ability of law enforcement and emergency personnel to share information during natural disasters like Hurricane Katrina and other emergencies,” Governor Barbour said. “The bottom line is MSWIN will save lives and provide critical communications to state agencies and local first responders.”

So far, the system has been built out from the Coast to Jackson, with work continuing to complete it statewide.

The Governor, who had made development of such a system a priority, noted that the demonstration coincided with the fourth anniversary of Hurricane Katrina.

MSWIN representatives utilized hand-held units that enabled them, with the simple turn of a knob, to speak to the various personnel. In addition to the mobile hand-held units and those that will be installed in vehicles, the MSWIN network includes a Master Site on Wheels (SOW) staged in Jackson and three mobile SOWS that can be dispatched anywhere in the state to establish or enhance radio communications in emergencies or special events.

Chris Epps, chairman of the state Wireless Communication Commission, said, “Hurricane season is in full throttle right now and it is vital that our emergency personnel have the ability to communicate with each other as they courageously put their lives on the line. Phase I is now in place and functional today in an emergency.”

At Governor Barbour’s request, the Mississippi Legislature recognized the benefits of MSWIN and passed legislation approving the network and initial funding. Currently the contracted $162 million implementation cost of MSWIN has been fully funded through both state and federal appropriations. The WCC is working with the Mississippi Legislature on funding for on-going operations and maintenance of MSWIN.

The state selected Motorola as the vendor for the project, and the contract was executed in June 2007. Construction is planned in three phases. The recently completed Phase 1 covers the lower third of the state and includes a total of 44 tower sites.

“MSWIN is roughly 18 mRoach, executive officer of the Wireless Communication Commission. “We realize the urgent need for this system in our state and have worked diligently to get the network up and operating, while at the same time remaining cognizant of the budget.”

“With the completion of Phase 1, MSWIN is already providing the state of Mississippi with a state-of-the-art interoperable communication system that is helping first responders communicate on a daily basis and keeping them prepared for a large-scale emergency,” said Bob Wartmann, Motorola vice president, State and Local Government Business. “Motorola has or is in the process of implementing statewide communications networks in more than 30 states. MSWIN is another example of Motorola providing the most advanced technology that will help state and local agencies throughout Mississippi close the gaps in radio coverage and help promote increased collaboration with federal, county and local agencies. Motorola looks forward to continuing to work with the state of Mississippi to complete this important communications project that will help increase the safety and security of the people of Mississippi.”

Phase II, primarily central Mississippi, will include 52 sites. Phase III, the upper third of the state, will include 47 sites.

Today’s demonstration follows a recent pilot program in which law enforcement officials in five Mississippi counties field tested the network. Using equipment provided by the vendor, 30 various agencies in Perry, George, Pearl River, Stone and Wayne counties utilized the network over a 30-day period.

Follow-up evaluations show that 27 of the 30 said the system performed either excellent or very good, and three felt the coverage was good and met expectations. As for voice quality, 93 percent graded it excellent or very good, while the remaining seven percent graded it as good.

Picture of the SOW 1-198 located across from Beau Rivage (which as of today it's still in place and operating)

SOW198-small.jpg
 

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For a few years I lived in Union Church.... Went to see Steve McNair play a couple of times when he attended ASU.... Heck my home burning to the ground was the final straw in forcing the County to speed up installation of the new VHF radios for the FD's countywide....

I was born in Meadville, raised in Crystal Springs, and spent many many years worth of hunting and fishing on family land in Union Church. Attended Co-Lin, and have friends and family all over MS, so used visiting them as an excuse to go hunting radio info.... Then later attended USM in H'burg back before the H'burg TRS grew up.... It was still just for HPD/HFD back then. USM and FCSO were still VHF Hi Band.

Thats one reason I have a major interest in the SW MS area.... Not only for the MWIN, but all the info there... Especially the conventional data from Fayette's new system, Wilkinson County....All that area. Heck in fact, as far as I know ASU PD is fully dispatched by JCSO as they do NOT have an FCC license yet....
 

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Ah cool, sorry to hear about your home though. :( Only ever been to Natchez and Vicksburg in that part of the state for a couple days each to rough in the wiring on a couple of Discount Auto parts stores there back when they were popping up like weeds all over the state. LOL

Maybe I'll make a run over that way and rent a hotel room for the weekend and fill in some of the remaining blanks in the coming weeks/months.


COOL! pics nexus, thanks for sharing
 
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Hey see if you can win at the casino LOL! And see if they that radio system info is still valid for them... LOL you can also monitor the LWIN there and see what you can hear from the Farriday Tower
 

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Awesome pics Nexus.... Wonder what they would say about hooking a scanner to that thing WEG! Hmmm If I was rich, I would see about building a SOW... Scanner On Wheeles rig... Have a amplified rig with a extendable say.. 30 to 50 foot mast with antennas for VHF Hi, UHF, and 700/800....
 

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Picture of the SOW 1-198 located across from Beau Rivage (which as of today it's still in place and operating)

Been noticing all of it's neighbor sites that I've monitored this weekend are showing the connection to 198 as a status of failed, so that may be about to change this week. ??? Great pics nonetheless though
 

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All the SOW's are supposed to be going back to Jackson very soon, with the possibility of one going to Natchez until all the Adams County sites are up....
 

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Just stumbled upon one last piece of info I'd been missing since I first started compiling info on phase 1. There is actually 7 MWCC owned sites. The 10910 Franklin County site (the one I believe Hugh is calling Bude) is owned by MWCC. I'd kinda forgotten I'd never found a registration for that site, but now I have :D so...
The count is now:
37 ToM owned lease sites
7 MWCC owned sites (Wayne, Greene, Franklin, Forrest, Wilkinson, Marion, and Lawrence counties)
1 Co-located site (Fountainbleau)
1 As yet unknown owner at MHP D8 HQ (I would guess MWCC also?)
For a total of 46 sites now :)
 

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Yes the newly being built one at MHP's new HQ is an MWCC site.. thats in the minutes from August.... Now if ITS would get thier fall update out I can get the latest map.. LOL Up that count... remember four total SOW's.... 1 Master SOW, and three regular SOW's... Though the SOW's go to toal of all phases.. we can count them for P1....
 
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MSWIN site update for Adams Co.

Here's the latest on the Natchez area, the Cloverdale site(Natchez south) is fully constructed and could conceivably begin broadcasting any minute now. The reason I say that is that the Pine Ridge site (Natchez north) started broadcasting sometime today when I left for Jackson and returned home just moments ago. (Filed that report on Hinds Co. using someone's unsecured wi-fi in the Flowood area, hope they didn't mind) Back to my update, I noticed yesterday while visiting the Doloroso site that the data channel was dead, and had been for several days. Well today the freq. that had been coming from the Doloroso tower is coming from Natchez north and is doing full trunking. Just heard F&W 561 go 10-7. First time there has been any voice traffic in this area. Oddly enough the Doloroso tower while broadcasting a strong signal into Natchez for several weeks now, never broadcast any voice traffic, so things are beginning to take shape in the Natchez area, but Wilkinson County is down for the time being.

Pine Ridge (Natchez North)tower in Adams Co. Site 139/Tower 127
Frequency,Input Frequency
774.31875,804.31875
774.56875,804.56875
774.81875c,804.81875
 

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Will keep you advised on Doloroso and could somebody let me know the proposed locations of the other sites for Wilkinson Co.?
 
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