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toad99

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Midwest City PD is also on the East Central Oklahoma Emergency Communications Network (ECOECN for short).
 

connycarson

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Well, we knew it would happen sooner or later. Analog is going away.
I heard the same announcement Wednesday morning by Gayland Kitch, Moore Emergency Management Director:

Site 8, Oklahoma City switches to P25 next Tuesday.
SIte 19, Lawton switches on Thursday (December 17 is Thursday).

That only leaves only site 29 Baker Peak, which will be switched when the site can be accessed.

Normally, we wait until a system is operational before entering it in the database. In this case, I'm going to make an exception. I'm going to build the digital site and updated talkgroups (based on X16 ) so we can have scanners at least basically programmed before the switchover. I will verify what I can ahead of time and continue verification as we go along.
Well, we knew it would happen sooner or later. Analog is going away.
I heard the same announcement Wednesday morning by Gayland Kitch, Moore Emergency Management Director:

Site 8, Oklahoma City switches to P25 next Tuesday.
SIte 19, Lawton switches on Thursday (December 17 is Thursday).

That only leaves only site 29 Baker Peak, which will be switched when the site can be accessed.

Normally, we wait until a system is operational before entering it in the database. In this case, I'm going to make an exception. I'm going to build the digital site and updated talkgroups (based on X16 ) so we can have scanners at least basically programmed before the switchover. I will verify what I can ahead of time and continue verification as we go along.
Question-trying to reband Home Patrol-1 units for work, did Sentinel database & firmware update this morning, radio reference says rebanding is supported on this scanner. No luck with updated database. Scannermaster.com says Home Patrol 1 supports P25 phase 1, but it does not receive P25 phase 2 signals. Do I need to get a new scanner that gets P25 phase 2 in order to monitor OKWIN? Main interest is OHP Troop A.
 

HogDriver

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Where is Midwest City? I hear EMS on the analog system, I hear OKCPD on P25, but can't find out where Midwest City PD went...
Midwest City PD went to their own channel several months ago, apparently because their OKWIN freq was getting interference from something. It’s listed in RR. 854.1125.
 

connycarson

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Question-trying to reband Home Patrol-1 units for work, did Sentinel database & firmware update this morning, radio reference says rebanding is supported on this scanner. No luck with updated database. Scannermaster.com says Home Patrol 1 supports P25 phase 1, but it does not receive P25 phase 2 signals. Do I need to get a new scanner that gets P25 phase 2 in order to monitor OKWIN? Main interest is OHP Troop A.
I did a force write of the full database on both scanners and it worked! So, all is now good. I can hear everyone again
 

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Thanks again!!! Success... MWC is using one of their direct 800 Tac frequencies... I successfully added Midwest City as one of my favorites as I'm in the East Metro area.

Another Question... I'm setting up a list called OHP Out of Area. In case I decide to travel outside Troop A area. Do I need to load all the OKWIN P25 sites? Would I be able to hear any of these sites from Troop A's area?
 

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Another Question... I'm setting up a list called OHP Out of Area. In case I decide to travel outside Troop A area. Do I need to load all the OKWIN P25 sites? Would I be able to hear any of these sites from Troop A's area?
You can only receive sites that are near you.
How far that is depends on your location, antenna height and other factors but would likely be less than 30 miles.
 

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I listen to OKWIN P-25 site 41 on the OU Energy center where it seems most traffic is P-25 type 1. Lawton OHP traffic comes through that Norman site. Troop F Ardmore comes through a lot on the Lexington site. I don't know how far north site 41's range is up into OKC as its antennas are only about 185 ft AGL. The Lexington site might be a stretch for people in OKC.
 

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Hopefully a few answers to above questions:

Do you need a Phase 2 scanner? Depends. If you only want to listen to the OKWIN P25 system then no. If you want to listen to OKC then yes. I haven't see any traffic on OWKIN that is Phase 2 (pretty sure its locked to only Phase 1).

Do you want to program other sites in your radio? Depends. If you are only staying around one site, its usually ok to just stick to that one. If you are on the OKC site, there is plenty of traffic on that site to keep you busy. You might be able to hear Geary, Guthrie, Carney, Shawnee, Chickasha, or Norman, depending on where you are and what your antenna setup is. Depending on what scanner you have, the "out of area" sites my lock out with GPS (with uniden), or your scanner may lock onto the first decent control channel it can find (Whistler). I personally program all sites (or a spectrum scan) in my radios so they will automatically roam as I travel.
 

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On December 17th, 2020, Lawton Simulcast Repeaters will be upgraded to P25 digital. This upgrade on 800 radios will take approximately 10-30 mins between 10 a.m. and 10:30 a.m. When radios are back up, they will need to be switched over to P25.
I'm sitting here watching the Lawton site on Unitrunker. Hopefully the band conditions will stay good for another hour or so.

They just took it off the air at 10:01.
 

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So far all the Lawton area talkgroups I have seen are still the same (Type II / 16 = P25).

It's not showing any neighbors yet.
 

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How do I get the new frequencies programmed into my radios? I'm not familiar with most of this, I just know the basics. I own a wrecker service and I need my radios to work.
 

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Hey Tom,
Just looking at your UniTrunker output here.
Did 856.7125MHz ever come up as a voice channel, or no?
Yes.
On the old system 851.2375 and 856.7125 and the Alt CCs were not used often. I think they were for overflow only.
On the P25 system they have a lot more traffic but in the short time was able to run Unitrunker on it 851.2375 looks normal and 856.7125 had about half the hits as the others.
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fast2okc

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Yes.
On the old system 851.2375 and 856.7125 and the Alt CCs were not used often. I think they were for overflow only.
On the P25 system they have a lot more traffic but in the short time was able to run Unitrunker on it 851.2375 looks normal and 856.7125 had about half the hits as the others.
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That's what I expected. The OKC P25 site has two new voice channels. And the neighboring sites started showing up today.
 
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