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Tuxedo has switched to the trunked system (LE Response South). You heard Tuxedo Park on 155.4225. Tuxedo hasn't used that channel for dispatching in well over a year since they switched to county dispatch. Midnights in the town are covered by the NYSP.

Town of Tuxedo PD (LE Response South, previously VHF MRD)
961 (Base) to 970

Tuxedo Park PD (155.4225)
951 (Base), 952, 955, 957
Actually that channel is Tuxedo PD's car to car channel. It is used by Tuxedo Park for dispatch but it is not there channel.

Also Tuxedo PD has some midnight coverage, not all nights but several nights a week.
 

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Actually that channel is Tuxedo PD's car to car channel. It is used by Tuxedo Park for dispatch but it is not there channel.

Also Tuxedo PD has some midnight coverage, not all nights but several nights a week.
Yeah, I know who the frequency is licensed to. I never said it was Tuxedo Park's channel, I stated that they use it for dispatch. I think most people would agree that an agency using a frequency for dispatch is a bit more noteworthy than any "car to car" usage of the same frequency. ;)
 

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Yeah, I know who the frequency is licensed to. I never said it was Tuxedo Park's channel, I stated that they use it for dispatch. I think most people would agree that an agency using a frequency for dispatch is a bit more noteworthy than any "car to car" usage of the same frequency. ;)

Since it was used as a car to car channel just as much as a dispatcher channel it probably should've at least been noted that it is the town's car to car channel. Although it doesn't really matter now because shortly neither agency is going to be using it.

Side note are you going to be adding Town of Tuxedo's Tac talkgroup to the database?
 

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Side note are you going to be adding Town of Tuxedo's Tac talkgroup to the database?
To my knowledge, there is no separate Tac talkgroup for the town, and it appears that the town and village will share 23002, which is already in the database.
 

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To my knowledge, there is no separate Tac talkgroup for the town, and it appears that the town and village will share 23002, which is already in the database.
I will check tonight but I do not believe that is correct. If you're listening around 11 you may be able to pick up the talkgroup ID.
 

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I will check tonight but I do not believe that is correct. If you're listening around 11 you may be able to pick up the talkgroup ID.
The local LE talkgroups correlate directly with the subscriber ID blocks, e.g. Monroe IDs are 220xxx and their talkgroups are 220xx, City of Newburgh IDs are 225xxx and their talkgroups are 225xx, , etc.

Town of Tuxedo IDs are in the 229xxx block. Village of Tuxedo Park IDs are in the 230xxx block. There are two talkgroups in the 230xx block, and no talkgroups in the 229xx block. The Town units have been on 23002 quite a bit the past few days.

What seems likely is that 23001 is the Village dispatch talkgroup, and 23002 is "Townwide Tac" or whatever they're calling it, which will be used by both agencies. If you'd like to get us a better description of that secondary talkgroup, I'll update the database.
 

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Good morning.
I was just looking at the picture ,and I was just trying to figure out what program u are using ...Can you please me out with the program

thank
Joe
 

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The local LE talkgroups correlate directly with the subscriber ID blocks, e.g. Monroe IDs are 220xxx and their talkgroups are 220xx, City of Newburgh IDs are 225xxx and their talkgroups are 225xx, , etc.

Town of Tuxedo IDs are in the 229xxx block. Village of Tuxedo Park IDs are in the 230xxx block. There are two talkgroups in the 230xx block, and no talkgroups in the 229xx block. The Town units have been on 23002 quite a bit the past few days.

What seems likely is that 23001 is the Village dispatch talkgroup, and 23002 is "Townwide Tac" or whatever they're calling it, which will be used by both agencies. If you'd like to get us a better description of that secondary talkgroup, I'll update the database.

I did notice everything you mentioned last night as I was using the radios. Tuxedo Park also does not have a additional tac channel in there radios only the "Tuxedo Tac". It makes sense to have one tac channel for the whole town I'm just curious why they didn't do that with other town/villages and only with Tuxedo Park/town.
 

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I did notice everything you mentioned last night as I was using the radios. Tuxedo Park also does not have a additional tac channel in there radios only the "Tuxedo Tac". It makes sense to have one tac channel for the whole town I'm just curious why they didn't do that with other town/villages and only with Tuxedo Park/town.
Tuxedo is not alone. Cornwall-on-Hudson PD and Harriman PD also do not have their own Tac talkgroups. Presumably they will share Tac talkgroups with Cornwall and Woodbury, who dispatch them. That being said, Tuxedo PD is the only county-dispatched LE agency who don't have their own Tac talkgroup. I'm sure that was a decision made by the PTB for the town and village, who wanted to keep both agencies together on the same talkgroup to mimic the current usage of 155.4225. If it ain't broke...
 

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GTR, as you are likely aware, both Harriman PD (04-115 / 605) and Cornwall-on-Hudson PD (04-152 / 634) have their own talkgroups on NYComCo's EDACS. While I can't speak for Cornwall-on-Hudson, Harriman uses theirs quite regularly. I'm finding it hard to believe, though not impossible, that they would take a step backward and not be granted the ability to talk amongst themselves without disturbing their dispatching agency on their Tac talkgroup. Thinking aloud here, I suppose, if that does happen, each could switch back to their respective VHF-high band local government channels for car-to-car traffic (151.1000, 162.2 for Harriman and 154.9650, 136.5 for C-on-H). I suppose we'll have to wait and see what happens after each department finally transitions off EDACS onto CoRNet, along with so many of the other remaining east side PDs.
 
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GTR, as you are likely aware, both Harriman PD (04-115 / 605) and Cornwall-on-Hudson PD (04-152 / 634) have their own talkgroups on NYComCo's EDACS. While I can't speak for Cornwall-on-Hudson, Harriman uses theirs quite regularly. I'm finding it hard to believe, though not impossible, that they would take a step backward and not be granted the ability to talk amongst themselves without disturbing their dispatching agency on their Tac talkgroup.

COHPD rarely ever used their TAC or Admin talk groups on EDACS. Mostly because they only have one unit on patrol in the Village, so who is he talking to, himself ? The admin talk group, way back when it was programmed in, was only programmed in the Chief and Sergeant radios (same in the Town). Chief is part time now. If anything, they use the Villagewide talk group to talk to DPW, Water and Cornwall EMS. So, nothing really lost there.

I'm finding it hard to believe, though not impossible, that they would take a step backward and not be granted the ability to talk amongst themselves without disturbing their dispatching agency on their Tac talkgroup

They would still maintain that ability, just on a combined Tac with the Town of Woodbury units similar to Tuxedo and Tuxedo Park. Same with COHPD and Cornwall using a combined Tac. From what I was told, those agencies dispatched full-time by 911 get a Tac. Those that have their own dispatch get a Dispatch and a Tac. Harriman and COHPD are neither of those categories. Harriman is dispatched by Woodbury so they use their Tac; COHPD is dispatched by Base 4 (except midnights for Town and Village) so they use their Tac. Tuxedo kept the set-up similar to their current VHF with Tuxedo Park.

Thinking aloud here, I suppose, if that does happen, each could switch back to their respective VHF-high band local government channels for car-to-car traffic (151.1000, 162.2 for Harriman and 154.9650, 136.5 for C-on-H). I suppose we'll have to wait and see what happens after each department finally transitions off EDACS onto CoRNet, along with so many of the other remaining east side PDs.

Exactly...it’s bad enough with all these agencies having a zillion talkgroups already. Is it that hard to pick up the other mic for a Lincoln Sam coffee order. Or better yet, tie up a resource when you already have a system that’s going to get more and more loaded with limited resources due to having to split simulcast sites? Does a one square mile village with one guy patrolling really need to chit chat countywide on the trunked system for something they can use a simplex Tac on ? Now OCSO, NJSP, large towns, sure.
 

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Oh for the love of. It's a website that can be found by a simple search, sharing transmissions of a radio system anyone can monitor anyways. It's no different than Broadcastify. If you want to have a secret off the air convo then use your cell phone.
 
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