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redbeard

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For the 700MHz Air to Ground sites being converted, I like the idea of naming them uniquely for their purpose. I just added the first one to convert over, Harrison City 700, but I think I like something more like Harrison City 700 AG or maybe Harrison City AtG.

Anyone with an opinion or another idea? I feel like they need to stand out a little, lest anyone think it was a standard site or confuse it with an eventual Turnpike 700 site.
 

GTR8000

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I'd vote for Harrison City 700 AG and Philadelphia 700 AG (that was actually the first one to convert, Site 93), short and sweet and to the point.
 

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I just saw the site is showing these other air-ground sites as P25 neighbors:

1-142BLAI02
1-143PERR01
1-145VENA08

Seems like the swap out from the old Harris phase 1 to the Motorola Phase 2 has started. I guess I'll have to take a ride to check the Philly 700 site. That had previously not shown any neighbors. The Berks site is on the air today.
I checked PERR01 A/G yesterday (2021-03-20) and it was still on the old system (sysid 7, rfss 208, site 2). I scanned within the frequency band for WPTZ795 but I did not see any other activity.
 

HM1529

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I checked PERR01 A/G yesterday (2021-03-20) and it was still on the old system (sysid 7, rfss 208, site 2). I scanned within the frequency band for WPTZ795 but I did not see any other activity.
You didn't happen to confirm the Newport UHF site, did you? Would be great if that could be submitted to the database.
 

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You didn't happen to confirm the Newport UHF site, did you? Would be great if that could be submitted to the database.
Yes, I did! I just sent in the submission to RRDB and added some info to the Wiki.

RFSS: 1
Site: 72 (decimal)
NAC: 94A (hex)
Freqs: 453.1500 453.8375c 453.6250a
Site Neighbors: 1.46, 1.51, 1.63

From the Newport Park & Ride directly in front of PSP Newport I had full strength reception with RTL-SDR with no antenna using SDRTrunk.

Additionally, PERR01 and MIFF35 are reporting this site (1.72) as a neighbor.

I am curious where the PERR86 identifier from the Wiki was sourced. I did not see it referenced on the ULS information for WRJC524. Perhaps from a backhaul license for the same site.
 

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I am curious where the PERR86 identifier from the Wiki was sourced. I did not see it referenced on the ULS information for WRJC524. Perhaps from a backhaul license for the same site.
Nevermind... I do see it now in the header for Location 1 for that license.
 

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I just saw the site is showing these other air-ground sites as P25 neighbors:

1-142BLAI02
1-143PERR01
1-145VENA08

Seems like the swap out from the old Harris phase 1 to the Motorola Phase 2 has started. I guess I'll have to take a ride to check the Philly 700 site. That had previously not shown any neighbors. The Berks site is on the air today.

Interesting, I just checked the Seneca site and it is not reporting VEN08 as a neighbor. However I did see a new neighbor of site 67 and cc of 151.2125. I don't see site 67 in the list. But the only the cc on the list with 151.2125 is Presque Isle.
 

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Interesting, I just checked the Seneca site and it is not reporting VEN08 as a neighbor. However I did see a new neighbor of site 67 and cc of 151.2125. I don't see site 67 in the list. But the only the cc on the list with 151.2125 is Presque Isle.
That's CRAW33
 

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Interesting, I just checked the Seneca site and it is not reporting VEN08 as a neighbor.
It seems that the 700 MHz Air to Ground sites are only reporting each other as neighbors, not any of the regular sites in the area.

This makes sense, as site neighbors in an ASTRO 25 system are always reciprocal; that is to say, if Site 145 is a peer to Site 9, then the opposite must also be true. As they wouldn't want the majority of radios using those 700 sites, they are going to exclude them from being peers of any of the regular sites, and of course would not program the 700 MHz control channels into the radios except for units that specifically require them.
 

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It seems that the 700 MHz Air to Ground sites are only reporting each other as neighbors, not any of the regular sites in the area.

This makes sense, as site neighbors in an ASTRO 25 system are always reciprocal; that is to say, if Site 145 is a peer to Site 9, then the opposite must also be true. As they wouldn't want the majority of radios using those 700 sites, they are going to exclude them from being peers of any of the regular sites, and of course would not program the 700 MHz control channels into the radios except for units that specifically require them.

Ever since the 700 has been on air, I've never seen neighbors reported by the VEN08 site. I can't hear any of the other ones.
 

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Ever since the 700 has been on air, I've never seen neighbors reported by the VEN08 site. I can't hear any of the other ones.
Sorry, I should've been more clear...I was referring to the 700 sites on the new ASTRO 25 system, not the Harris A-G system.
 

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South of Meadville. NE of the Rt 285 exit off I-79. If it is showing as a neighbor, can someone confirm it is on the air?

WRJZ809
I am logging a lot of traffic for PennDOT Mercer units on that tower today. I seriously doubt Mercer PennDOT is hitting the Presque Isle site due to the terrain from southern Crawford to northern Erie counties.
 
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