sdrtrunk-vce - web interface, analytics, optimizations - Testers Wanted!

[far342]

Why in the world would you need to switch over to the analog freq.

Thats the thing, a lot of these patches when the audio gets converted sound extremely muddy and distorted so hearing the true analog source would be a benefit. A better way this could work is if your additional tuner was already set to the analog frequency but you only heard the audio of that frequency when the patch goes through. At least in my case, the majority of analog in my area are in a small section of VHF and the trunked systems are in a small area of 700mhz so I already tend to have another tuner on VHF area while also listening to the trunked systems and that is not a rare occurrence.

If I were the author I would not waste time on something like this. One person in about 30,000,000 would even care about trying this out.

I wrote this knowing it was a bit of a stretch but there are features that have become a reality in this fork that I could also say one in 30,000,000 would care about. That's the beauty of forks like this, it's purely for hobbyists. I have talked to people who also would like a seamless patch feature like this.

 

[ronenp]

Please consider protecting the web access with a password

 

[BM82557]

Running Alpha 9 - Just noticed that AM isn't listed any longer in the NEW channels selections -- Bummer for those of us that monitor civil and military aircraft ---

Just checked, it is still supported in SDRTrunk legacy nightly -----

 

[W4KRR]

I am noticing Alias editing issues with vce Alpha 9.

Random, unexpected behavior:
Cloning an existing alias, making changes, and then saving, saves the line above the cloned alias instead of the cloned line
Trying to delete a selected alias often doesn't work, it just remains
Attempting to delete multiple alias lines results in making duplicates of existing lines, and rearranges the order
Unable to sort the order of the aliases within an alias list. Would prefer a sort by talkgroup number.
Aliases are sometimes rearranged and duplicated at random.

 

[ChrisABQ]

Don't forget to check the nightly releases, some fixes may be in those.

 

[dave3825]

@tylerwatt12

Wondering if on system/sites tabs in web browser, can you possibly add a few options? Specifically to Radios, Talker and Talk Groups.

Would love previous/next buttons to the top of the page. Slightly cumbersome when scrolling thru a ton of radios that belong to the same agency or or when scrolling columns in ascending or descending orders.

And can the total number of radios, talk groups and talker aliases be listed on corresponding pages?



Would love

 

[dave3825]

Not sure where it came up with the 935 Mhz freq from --

I have an 800 popping up on a 700.




Scanning 3 systems and this 851.000 is listed as DAT-A. Don't see DAT-A in any of the other systems. Last 3 freqs don't belong. In Denny's SDRT, I believe there was a refresh to flush out ghost freqs.

 

[tylerwatt12]

Running Alpha 9 - Just noticed that AM isn't listed any longer in the NEW channels selections -- Bummer for those of us that monitor civil and military aircraft ---

Just checked, it is still supported in SDRTrunk legacy nightly -----

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That's correct. I'm working on a more focused build of sdrtrunk intended primarily for trunked radio listening. When I find that certain features aren't seeing much use, I may remove them so I can spend more time developing and improving the core interfaces.
Every feature in sdrtrunk also adds additional testing and maintenance, which can take time away from the main goal of this project. Because of that, I generally prefer to remove underutilized features rather than continue supporting them indefinitely.
That said, if there's enough interest or enough requests for a particular feature to return, I'm open to reconsidering it.

I am noticing Alias editing issues with vce Alpha 9.

Random, unexpected behavior:
Cloning an existing alias, making changes, and then saving, saves the line above the cloned alias instead of the cloned line
Trying to delete a selected alias often doesn't work, it just remains
Attempting to delete multiple alias lines results in making duplicates of existing lines, and rearranges the order
Unable to sort the order of the aliases within an alias list. Would prefer a sort by talkgroup number.
Aliases are sometimes rearranged and duplicated at random.

There's a few bugs that popped up after I started migrating the alias list to sqlite. I'm doing a bigger rewrite of the Java alias editor to fix the "translation problems"

@tylerwatt12

Wondering if on system/sites tabs in web browser, can you possibly add a few options? Specifically to Radios, Talker and Talk Groups.

Would love previous/next buttons to the top of the page. Slightly cumbersome when scrolling thru a ton of radios that belong to the same agency or or when scrolling columns in ascending or descending orders.

And can the total number of radios, talk groups and talker aliases be listed on corresponding pages?


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Would love

Good suggestion, I agree. I'll add that to the top.

Please consider protecting the web access with a password

I'm adding a full permissions system. You'll set the administrator password in the Java UI, then you can create additional logins in the web UI.

I have an 800 popping up on a 700.

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Scanning 3 systems and this 851.000 is listed as DAT-A. Don't see DAT-A in any of the other systems. Last 3 freqs don't belong. In Denny's SDRT, I believe there was a refresh to flush out ghost freqs.

I'm hardening decodes and error correction so ghost channels happen less frequently. The DAT-A channel is the result of a real decode, just not on that channel. The control channel decoder read LCN 0-0 on a data frame and passed that through to the UI. In the future these won't appear to not confuse users.

 

[bg_nashville]

That's correct. I'm working on a more focused build of sdrtrunk intended primarily for trunked radio listening. When I find that certain features aren't seeing much use, I may remove them so I can spend more time developing and improving the core interfaces.
Every feature in sdrtrunk also adds additional testing and maintenance, which can take time away from the main goal of this project. Because of that, I generally prefer to remove underutilized features rather than continue supporting them indefinitely.
That said, if there's enough interest or enough requests for a particular feature to return, I'm open to reconsidering it.


There's a few bugs that popped up after I started migrating the alias list to sqlite. I'm doing a bigger rewrite of the Java alias editor to fix the "translation problems"


Good suggestion, I agree. I'll add that to the top.


I'm adding a full permissions system. You'll set the administrator password in the Java UI, then you can create additional logins in the web UI.

I'm hardening decodes and error correction so ghost channels happen less frequently. The DAT-A channel is the result of a real decode, just not on that channel. The control channel decoder read LCN 0-0 on a data frame and passed that through to the UI. In the future these won't appear to not confuse users.

The lack of AM will be a problem for me as well, since I like to listen to ATC.

NBFM is an absolute necessity. If you limit the app to trunked systems then I’m out.

 

[bg_nashville]

P25 on the nightly build was working flawlessly, but has suddenly stopped working entirely. Even Codex can’t figure it out.

 

[moochie]

Is there a way to show the encryption information on the web console in the systems and sites tab when you click on the encrypted talkgroup?

 

[LimaZulu]

That's correct. I'm working on a more focused build of sdrtrunk intended primarily for trunked radio listening. When I find that certain features aren't seeing much use, I may remove them so I can spend more time developing and improving the core interfaces.
Every feature in sdrtrunk also adds additional testing and maintenance, which can take time away from the main goal of this project. Because of that, I generally prefer to remove underutilized features rather than continue supporting them indefinitely.
That said, if there's enough interest or enough requests for a particular feature to return, I'm open to reconsidering it.

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As a developer myself, I do understand your point of view. But as a user, on the other hand, I want and have my eyes on the most feature-rich software. AM does not require a ton of work (which you already did by the way) and development. So, a piece of legacy code to bring in your feature releases may not be as bad as you think.

I recently did switch to your software just because it offered me so much in just one piece, whereas before I used at least two, and some of them do require a third piece of software just to use them both in combination. Not to mention the complexity and limitations of setting everything up. And that's where sdrtrunk shines the most – just how easy it is to utilize and combine all available SDRs. Now add to that the available decoders, and we are on the straight line to the race for the best decoding software out there!

Of course, I'm not saying that you should bring all available legacy decoders out there, but man, AM is an up-to-date modulation that is being used all around the world and is wanted by a whole bunch of enthusiasts out there!

My two cents – give AM a second chance

 

[tylerwatt12]

As a developer myself, I do understand your point of view. But as a user, on the other hand, I want and have my eyes on the most feature-rich software. AM does not require a ton of work (which you already did by the way) and development. So, a piece of legacy code to bring in your feature releases may not be as bad as you think.

I recently did switch to your software just because it offered me so much in just one piece, whereas before I used at least two, and some of them do require a third piece of software just to use them both in combination. Not to mention the complexity and limitations of setting everything up. And that's where sdrtrunk shines the most – just how easy it is to utilize and combine all available SDRs. Now add to that the available decoders, and we are on the straight line to the race for the best decoding software out there!

Of course, I'm not saying that you should bring all available legacy decoders out there, but man, AM is an up-to-date modulation that is being used all around the world and is wanted by a whole bunch of enthusiasts out there!

My two cents – give AM a second chance

Planning on adding it back in a future release.

In the meantime, some users have reported stall issues, signal dropouts. I've created a debugging release that does a thread dump if any of this happens. It's based on Alpha 9. If you're having this issue, message me and try that build. I'm not able to replicate the issues some people are having even with several test systems with differing hardware, OS's etc.

Release Receiver Diagnostics — Alpha 9 troubleshooting build · tylerwatt12/sdrtrunk-vce

This is a troubleshooting-only build for users experiencing receiver stalls, IQ loss, control-channel loss, or unexplained audio gaps. It is not a normal product update and is not published through...

github.com

 

[bg_nashville]

Planning on adding it back in a future release.

In the meantime, some users have reported stall issues, signal dropouts. I've created a debugging release that does a thread dump if any of this happens. It's based on Alpha 9. If you're having this issue, message me and try that build. I'm not able to replicate the issues some people are having even with several test systems with differing hardware, OS's etc.

Release Receiver Diagnostics — Alpha 9 troubleshooting build · tylerwatt12/sdrtrunk-vce

This is a troubleshooting-only build for users experiencing receiver stalls, IQ loss, control-channel loss, or unexplained audio gaps. It is not a normal product update and is not published through...

github.com

Something obviously happened between Alpha 6 and Alpha 9. My P25 systems will start normally, then stop decoding after just a few minutes. ChatGPT/Codex can't even figure out why. This project looked promising at first, but for me it has become unusable.

 

[APX8000]

I'd like to hear if people are still using the original SDR Trunk or have actually migrated to this..

 

[BM82557]

I have both VCE and Legacy running 7/24 on P25 Phase 1 and Phase 2 systems, mainly still have Legacy in the mix as VCE is in Alpha.

 

[blacks1]

features to add privacy keys, like Moto Basic Privacy, Moto Enhanced Privacy, or even.
Using AM modulation is a priority for me

 

[tylerwatt12]

Something obviously happened between Alpha 6 and Alpha 9. My P25 systems will start normally, then stop decoding after just a few minutes. ChatGPT/Codex can't even figure out why. This project looked promising at first, but for me it has become unusable.

Have you used the debug build? It's specifically for the issues you're reporting.

 

[BM82557]

Planning on adding it back in a future release.

In the meantime, some users have reported stall issues, signal dropouts. I've created a debugging release that does a thread dump if any of this happens. It's based on Alpha 9. If you're having this issue, message me and try that build. I'm not able to replicate the issues some people are having even with several test systems with differing hardware, OS's etc.

Release Receiver Diagnostics — Alpha 9 troubleshooting build · tylerwatt12/sdrtrunk-vce

This is a troubleshooting-only build for users experiencing receiver stalls, IQ loss, control-channel loss, or unexplained audio gaps. It is not a normal product update and is not published through...

github.com

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[jblackst]

I'd like to hear if people are still using the original SDR Trunk or have actually migrated to this..

I've switched from regular SDRTrunk to SDRTrunk-VCE, currently the nightly version. The web based stats and history are a keeper.