Site Frequencies by CC?

[calbkr]

Hello all,

So I have been wondering... I use both an SDS100 and BCD436HP, and I've been slowly gathering more information in regards to a MotoTRBO radio system that RRDB has very limited information on.
So far I've been able to acquire more site frequencies and their LCN's than the DB has listed, however, is it at all possible to scan for those site frequencies (not TGID's) by color code?
For reference, it appears that this system operates on CC 5 only, and while the painstaking process of discovering conventional frequencies will pick up information and let me know the color codes ... it would obviously be incredibly advantageous to pick up ONLY frequencies on the CC that I'm looking for.

I have a feeling I know the answer, but I'm hoping to have a wizard do their thing.

Thank you!

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

I'm not quite sure I'm understanding your question completely. No, there's no way to set an object using a color code only and have it only pass traffic if the frequency carries that particular color code

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

is it at all possible to scan for those site frequencies (not TGID's) by color code?

You can program all known frequencies in as conventional objects, set audio type to "Digital" & set the color code per frequency. Choose "Edit Name" and delete the name entirely (press "." twice) and this will allow you to view the TGID during a conventional object scan. Only drawback to this method is you won't be able to grab missing LCNs until you confirm which frequencies are active and program them in as a MOTOTRBO trunked system then run LCN finder. Hope this makes sense.

 

[ToddWilkinson]

Time to build your own trunked system my guy! have fun its a blast!

 

[RaleighGuy]

Time to build your own trunked system my guy! have fun its a blast!

Why would he need to build his own trunked system to monitor someone else's? And, how does he transmit on his newly created trunked system with his SDS100 and BCD436HP?

 

[calbkr]

I'm not quite sure I'm understanding your question completely. No, there's no way to set an object using a color code only and have it only pass traffic if the frequency carries that particular color code

Yeah, I figured this would be an odd thing to explain.

What I'm trying to do is determine exactly how many site frequencies are used for this MotoTRBO system. RRDB has 3 listed, with 3 LCN's. In doing some conventional discovery and using the LCN finder, I've not only found 1 or two of the LCN's to be incorrect, but I've found additional site frequencies and paired the LCN's that could be picked up to their respective site frequency.

What I'm trying to find out is, is there a way to use the discover function to pick up only CC 5 frequencies. As opposed to picking up frequencies that are Analog, or another DMR system entirely (color coded 3 in most cases near my area).

Essentially I'm trying to tighten up and isolate the discovery to pick up the site frequencies to my desired system, which has a CC of 5 only, and ignore any and everything else.

Between your response and what I'm finding out, thinking this isn't possible, and as usual with scanners ... it's play the long game. But I hope I explained what I'm trying to do a bit more clearly.

Thank you for any and all responses either way!

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

What I'm trying to find out is, is there a way to use the discover function to pick up only CC 5 frequencies.

Nope, not possible to search only one particular tone on the scanner itself. What you can do is utilize Proscan (30 day fully functional trial, $50.00 gets you 2 activations) to take a look at your history log file and from there you can filter out all hits your scanner comes across with CC5. But why perform a discovery search to begin with? Why not just examine the agency's FCC license(s) to see all potential frequencies and program them in conventionally as I suggested in Post #3 to see which ones are in use?

 

[calbkr]

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Nope, not possible to search only one particular tone on the scanner itself. What you can do is utilize Proscan (30 day fully functional trial, $50.00 gets you 2 activations) to take a look at your history log file and from there you can filter out all hits your scanner comes across with CC5. But why perform a discovery search to begin with? Why not just examine the agency's FCC license(s) to see all potential frequencies and program them in conventionally as I suggested in Post #3 to see which ones are in use?

I've done so already, and also separately went through adding these through a custom search in order to see which frequencies are being used by this MotoTRBO system, I haven't done an exact count, but there is easily 25+ site frequencies.
In doing my research, I've found traffic only comes through on about 7 or so, and I've gotten some very spotty hits on maybe 3 mmore. I'm trying to isolate it down to where the activity is most prominent on.

 

[n8yid]

So, now you can take those few frequencies you've already found and search for those individually through the FCC ULS website.... by using the Geographic Search option, and a little deductive reasoning; you can narrow things down quite a bit.... saves quite a bit of work with a radio, but you have to do more work on the computer....

"Sleuthing" out a lot of businesses in my area; using the FCC data equates to about 75% of the work when your trying to "flesh" out a system that is unknown in the RRDB....

 

[dave3825]

What I'm trying to do is determine exactly how many site frequencies are used for this MotoTRBO system.

That in it self can take some time depending on how much activity is on the system.

What I'm trying to find out is, is there a way to use the discover function to pick up only CC 5 frequencies.

No specific way to isolate a search to a specific color code. I use dongles for that with dsdplus. I set up a scan list with all freqs from the licenses involved and let it scan. After a while I review the event logs to gather the info on what was used. As I discover a freq for the system, I make note and remove it from the scan list and just keep repeating the process.

Can also be done with a scanner and @ProScan software. Stick all freqs in on list and let it scan. Review recordings and log file and go from there.

Keep in mind that while in your case many of those freqs are cc5, that might not always be the case with all freqs being the same color code.