State of Delaware - P25 Phase 1 System (2024)

[Hbright]

I don't think we can make that assumption yet.

The current Smartzone system uses P25 VCs, hence why we see a P25 NAC and P25 TGIDs when the VCs are scanned conventionally.

However, whether or not these TGs will correspond with the new system remains to be seen. From what I can tell, this new system first came online on Monday, August 19th. Because it uses freqs that were previously associated with the Smartzone system, any TG findings before 8/19 can be assumed to be part of the Smartzone system, rather than the new P25 system.

Also, I have seen four separate Public Safety agencies' APX6000s in the past few months, none of them have the new P25 system in their fleet map.

 

[maus92]

I don't think we can make that assumption yet.

The current Smartzone system uses P25 VCs, hence why we see a P25 NAC and P25 TGIDs when the VCs are scanned conventionally.

However, whether or not these TGs will correspond with the new system remains to be seen. From what I can tell, this new system first came online on Monday, August 19th. Because it uses freqs that were previously associated with the Smartzone system, any TG findings before 8/19 can be assumed to be part of the Smartzone system, rather than the new P25 system.

Also, I have seen four separate Public Safety agencies' APX6000s in the past few months, none of them have the new P25 system in their fleet map.

The APX6000s are eol - I wonder if they will; be swapped out with new radios?

 

[chrishoerner]

So, a question: Based on hearing only one other TGID - 1093 - so far on both the NCC & Kent sites, and doing the math, that equals 17488. That matches the Sussex county SPCA - TGID 17488. Am I correct or did I miss something?

If correct, does that mean TGID mapping can start and profiles can be created so that when the data gets loaded into the P25P2 system, it will take right off? Of course that ASSUMES a lot. That every TGID on the legacy system will be added to the new system.

My Guess in this case is this agency wanted a statewide dispatch channel all along but system resources didn't allow for that. Now that P2 is an option they were probably a perfect test candidate. Maybe Sussex was first to come online and they just made that TG active on all 3 sites. I would expect other minor changes here and there. Things like fire dispatch channels I would guess wouldn't change much.

 

[chrishoerner]

Someone mentioned a few posts right before we started seeing the system online that they heard that the state and mot were going to flash any APX that didnt have the correct flashcode as they built out the codeplugs. I assumed that meant the EOL ones. We will see soon for sure.

 

[trailhiker73]

SW-TMC (4688) has been showing up as 293 this evening on the P25 system. Has anyone been keeping tabs as to how many talk groups have been showing up in the past week?

 

[coopermj]

SW-TMC (4688) has been showing up as 293 this evening on the P25 system. Has anyone been keeping tabs as to how many talk groups have been showing up in the past week?

In addition to 1093 (SPCA??) that was first heard, the TMC along with several of the DelDot NCC Area TGIDs have been observed. There was quite a bit of activity yesterday especially on the TMC TGID with technicians doing a lot of testing and also routine traffic. No testing observed today, however routine communications are continuing. I might add that I observed these channels are simo'd on the NCC SZ system.

 

[Hbright]

Confirming comms on TG 17488 on SZ is simulcasted on TG 1093 on P25, and comms on TG 4688 on SZ is simulcasted on TG 293 on P25? I wonder how they do that?

 

[h8tdigitalradio]

Has anyone been keeping tabs as to how many talk groups have been showing up in the past week?

No. But here are some that were logged via Unitrunker:

TG 1359 (21744) N-AREA14
TG 1373 (21968) N-AREA12

DelDOT TG's simulcasted.

 

[maus92]

No. But here are some that were logged via Unitrunker:

TG 1359 (21744) N-AREA14
TG 1373 (21968) N-AREA12

DelDOT TG's simulcasted.

Heard on the New Castle site? I’ll have to check my logs to see if it was carried on Sussex.

 

[policefreak]

No. But here are some that were logged via Unitrunker:

TG 1359 (21744) N-AREA14
TG 1373 (21968) N-AREA12

DelDOT TG's simulcasted.

Heard on New Castle. I actually received it from Mount Laurel, NJ using a BK KNG-P800.

 

[chrishoerner]

I have only heard the Sw animal control in Kent. Not much testing this week on Kent. Possibly because Kent still has only 1 voice channel. I do hear the same del dot talkgroups mentioned above when I’m in NCC.

 

[Audiodave1]

I have only heard the Sw animal control in Kent. Not much testing this week on Kent. Possibly because Kent still has only 1 voice channel. I do hear the same del dot talkgroups mentioned above when I’m in NCC.

Animal control patch is up in NCC today

 

[chrishoerner]

Animal control patch is up in NCC today

Yes, I think that one has been up in all 3 counties all week. I meant to say I haven’t heard the del dot talk groups or much testing on the Kent site last week.

 

[h8tdigitalradio]

Hello,

Another TG logged by Unitrunker off of NCCo Site:

TG 321 (5136) KN-XADMIN Expressways Admin

 

[fog]

I am staging a new radio system and filling in the details as they become available. But it is not set for public view until we have a lot more info. They are just starting the testing so publishing it w/o all the site freq's and TG's would not be very beneficial to most people.

Would sharing the channel ID table be helpful, or is that already known and just not live? I'm visiting the area and looking at the Sussex County site in sdtrunk. (Seems like it's still just TG 1093 always on 852.600.)

 

[maus92]

Not much channel loading atm, plus the SmartZone system is actively using channel resources that will eventually transfer over to the P25 system. People need to understand that this is not a simply-flip-the-switch process. The techs have to configure a lot of equipment and make sure that it works as expected. Then they will probably transition non-public safety agencies over first, and possibly simulcast public safety agencies before they go live with police and fire.

 

[jwhite591]

Programming Issue With this system State of Delaware P25
Not sure where to put this so I placed it here since I can't post it under Uniden Scanners

When Programming the BCD436HP/BCD536HP With the Sentinel Software, For some unknown reason the New State of Delaware P25 System will not program into the scanner or at least it does not recognize it, But when look at the configuration within the data Base, It looks OK, When you compare it to the Delaware Wireless Interoperability Network (DELWIN) System

Try It again. I may have had an error in the channel table.

Ah, Okay. I didn't know if you were doing a direct download with other software.

Anyone else having issues with ARC/Freescan etc?

I Tried This Week's Download (9/9/24), Using The Sentinel Software, The scanner still refuses to recognize the State of Delaware P25 System,

 

[maus92]

I Tried This Week's Download (9/9/24), Using The Sentinel Software, The scanner still refuses to recognize the State of Delaware P25 System,

I had to add location data for the sites to Sentinel manually and write to the radio before the radio actually recognized the system. I use location control and a GPS so this may not apply to you. The RRDB admin needs to add the location coordinates to the site data.

 

[h8tdigitalradio]

Hello,

Another DelDOT TG logged by Unitrunker off of NCCo Site:

TG 1381 (22096) KN-M-3 Expressways Maintenance Dispatch 3 (NCC/Kent)

 

[hey]

Nothing going on the Sussex county sites today except for the SPCA