Sticky Thread For Mid-Atlantic MilAir 2021

[RaleighGuy]

Sorry for late post, it was a rough night.

At 12:15pm the President will travel to Rehoboth Beach, Delaware. The departure will be from the South Lawn. The arrival will be at 1:15pm in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware.

 

[Mark]

Strong snow here now,mix of snow,rain down the coast. Marine 1 ok with that wx?
Break out the Motorcade? TFR time has changed seems added more hours on the 31st.

 

[wbagley]

Showing as XA979

AES:AE6CF1 GESD0 20-1941 ! SA 1 FLIGHT XA979

Landing at Waterbury-Oxford Connecticut airport......

The XA didn't seem to block SAM 979 from FlightRadar24 this time. And they did use the SAM 979 ident on the radio as they landed and taxied to the Atlantic Aviation FBO.

 

[RaleighGuy]

Strong snow here now,mix of snow,rain down the coast. Marine 1 ok with that wx?
Break out the Motorcade? TFR time has changed seems added more hours on the 31st.

No word yet, light rain on Mall in DC

 

[Yocuz]

Topcat 4 race tracking over KWRI.. Is this the AR for the CAP? Up on 260.9AM 5x5 in South Jersey. Boom 247.050AM

 

[wbagley]

Local METAR still looks fine but there is some weather showing on the way to the beach, EAGLE TWO N22PP is orbiting FedEx Field, possibly still waiting for the MARINE ONE liftoff.

KDCA 271652Z 08005KT 10SM BKN065 OVC100 06/M02 A3006 RMK AO2 SLP178 T00561017

 

[BM82557]

Topcat 4 race tracking over KWRI.. Is this the AR for the CAP? Up on 260.9AM 5x5 in South Jersey. Boom 247.050AM

KC-135 58-0084 out of Pittsburgh was circling near Rehoboth, heading west now

 

[Mark]

After my lunch break heard Tanker TEFLON-10 req to enter Oyster area of the CAP,
Thought I heard NOBLE-12 callsign.
Looks like PP Helo got halfway across the Bay and is returning DC. Don't see any of the usual DSP choppers up.
Heard some weak A/A 267.500

Was a Bowl game scheduled for Annapolis Field today called the Military Bowl but cancelled as Boston College
had too many missing players due to Covid,injuries etc. No flyovers in this wx anyway

 

[TerryPavlick]

13:23 Huntress reports to TEFLON 10 that TEFLON 11 is now airborne 260.900

 

[Mark]

13:23 Huntress reports to TEFLON 10 that TEFLON 11 is now airborne 260.900

Rgr heard TEFLON-10 on ZDC 354.150 with same message says they are airborne and will be here within the hour.
Short tanker shift

Someone on GK 238.100 mentioned they are Southbound. Someone also on Langley Iron Ops 357.100
TEFLON-10 with TEFLON-11 on 247.050 asks why TACC got you already.We have enough fuel for long time but they wanted you guys anyway.

 

[mdmonitor]

1330- Teflon 10 working ZDC Kenton (354.15) arranging for swap out of CAP tankers.

1335- Afternoon sortie from Langley. Migs & Vodkas 71st FS) working out in W386 w/Bash flt (F-22s 149th FS VA ANG) & Baron flt (F-22s 27th FS). Freqs: 228.45/233.825/236.55/238.1/249.8/257.075/312.2.

 

[TerryPavlick]

My feed from PA is locked on the Huntress 260.900 frequency if you want to hear the ground side of the comms.

76.124.165.101:5050

 

[vgames15]

TFR notice published for Wilmington area December 30- February 2 2022 Resources - Notices - FAA - FAASTeam - FAASafety.gov

 

[Mark]

Terry San Fran radio is busy today on 129.400. Earlier had United 2135 going to Orlando
req selcal check on HF 6640. Heard San Fran come up on that freq chatting with 2135.
Since not going oceanic why do they need a selcal check? Had an ABX cargo flight today also do the same for Kentucky flight.
Maybe in case their Airline dispatch wants to call them?
1605 local just had gabby SWA-435 pilot enroute Tampa report female pax fainted but is ok now and doctor aboard looked at her.
She said it was from stress and dehydration though pilot goofed and gave her full name age and date of birth.. Thats a no-no and not needed.

Vgames15 you mean Jan 2.

 

[Hbright]

I did not hear Marine One or Nighthawk on 132.425 today like I usually do when POTUS visits the beach. Wonder why?

1650E: Noble and Teflon cleared RTB. "See ya!" Teflon says on 260.9.

1714E: NOBLE11 on Langley TWR 10 miles out.

 

[TerryPavlick]

Terry San Fran radio is busy today on 129.400. Earlier had United 2135 going to Orlando
req selcal check on HF 6640. Heard San Fran come up on that freq chatting with 2135.
Since not going oceanic why do they need a selcal check? Had an ABX cargo flight today also do the same for Kentucky flight.
Maybe in case their Airline dispatch wants to call them?
1605 local just had gabby SWA-435 pilot enroute Tampa report female pax fainted but is ok now and doctor aboard looked at her.
She said it was from stress and dehydration though pilot goofed and gave her full name age and date of birth.. Thats a no-no and not needed.

Vgames15 you mean Jan 2.

The SELCAL is used regardless of location. It is a way to contact an aircraft "selectively" by sending the code and which then rings a bell in the cockpit. While HF is where it is most noticeable - flights all over the world use it for communication from their operations or from companies like ARINC. Some aircraft do not have SATCOM or ACARS installed so they monitor ARINC and if needed to be contacted - ARINC sends their SELCAL and the crew contacts them. You can hear SELCAL checks from aircraft sitting on the ground preflight as well.

On the gabby pilot - well they could have just passed the seat number and they could look up the passenger information on the ground but probably just got the information from people in the back and just forwarded it. Chances are slim that a lot of people heard what you heard.

 

[vgames15]

TFR notice published for Wilmington area December 30- January 2 2022 Resources - Notices - FAA - FAASTeam - FAASafety.gov

Fixed date to reflect January 2nd thanks Mark

 

[mdmonitor]

1651- Nobles working way out of the CAP. Talking to Huntress then pushed to "4 Aux", then came up on 354.15(Kenton). After that "pushed to Aux 18" and came up on ZDC Cape Charles (236.825).

 

[wbagley]

Terry San Fran radio is busy today on 129.400. Earlier had United 2135 going to Orlando
req selcal check on HF 6640. Heard San Fran come up on that freq chatting with 2135.
Since not going oceanic why do they need a selcal check? Had an ABX cargo flight today also do the same for Kentucky flight.
Maybe in case their Airline dispatch wants to call them?

As Terry said, the SELCAL is used to get in touch with an aircraft to maintain 'operational control' (for example, see: eCFR :: 14 CFR 121.533 -- Responsibility for operational control: Domestic operations). United 2135 flying EWR-MCO might require an HF check since the routing could potentially go well offshore in some cases due to weather. It was a Boeing 737-800, I'm not sure if this particular plane was ETOPS certified. I think in most cases air carriers in the Western Atlantic can fly up to 75 minutes from a suitable airport in a non-ETOPS twin engine aircraft if allowed in the carrier's Operations Specifications.

HF SELCAL checks are often heard over the Continental U.S. on flights where Operational Experience training is being given by a Check Airman. A lot of OE (formerly IOE) training is being conducted right now as pilots go back to work after the massive Covid cutbacks. With modern simulators most of the training required for licensing and restoring proficiency is done in the sim. The first training flight in the aircraft is done with a Check Airman in the other seat and with paying pax or cargo in the back.

Most of the cargo carriers flying for Amazon don't seem to use ACARS. Here in Kentucky I often hear them pass out and off times, takeoff fuel and ETAs on 129.45. Also, for a few weeks of the year around Christmas, FedEx and UPS are allowed by their respective pilot unions to use contract carriers to fly their excess domestic freight.

 

[Mark]

Looks like some AK F-35's from the 356FS Green Demons spent Christmas at MCAS Iwakuni working.
Assume it is Iwakuni as getting hot pit refueled via ground USMC KC-130J's in clip.
Зелёные Демоны. Истребители F-35A Lightning II ВВС США на учениях в Японии. - YouTube
We have more F-22's and F-35's in Alaska these days.. Send them out on road trips
Could use some more Tankers up there with only 8- 9 KC-135's but 4 more on the way in 2023.
Eielson’s Air Guard Wing Gets 4 More Tankers; Base Gets 200 More Maintenance Personnel | KUAC