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[ScanManQSL]

The FAA just updated the webpage today. Dont know yet but the CAP might be up this week.

Beginning Date and Time : November 22, 2006 at 19:00 UTC
Ending Date and Time : November 25, 2006 at 18:45 UTC

http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_6_6601.html

 

[CitationJet]

11.21.2006

1235Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - NAVY 7C 769 (UC-12B morning shuttle) - deps DAA to 5000' dir GRUBY QSY 134.700.

1309Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - MARINE 548 () - deps ADW to 12000' dir GINYA QSY 118.675.
1342Z 119.300 Potomac APP - VENUS 40 () - conducting mult. practice apps.
1353Z 119.300 Potomac APP - BOXER 32 () - also up in the pattern now.
1354Z 126.300 Davison AAF TWR - NAVY 7C 769 (UC-12B am shuttle) - vis to rwy 32 and lands.

1447Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - ANVIS 22 (Be200 (C-12C) 321F) - deps DAA to 17000' dir WHINO QSY 125.650.

1549Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - MARINE 474 (UC-35D 166474 MASD Andrews) - deps ADW to 11000'.

 

[dehm]

11/21/2006 Logs

11/21/2006 Logs
-------------------------
1447z/ ANVIS 22; climb to 5k [118.95]
.. 118.95 < 125.65 (climb 170); (1452z/ Direct WHINO, COLLINS) < 133.9 (1458z/ checking in leveling 17k); 17 for FL190, (1459z/ now up to FL200),
... 132.95; 1507z/ Req Block 200 - FL220 for tracks over FORT A.P. HILL, VA (RESTRICTED AREA) [R-6601] area duration approx 1h for "Imagery" ... then to descend to 8k

2057z/ GILLY 1; Visual -- All blue with yellow stripe in the middle
all the way round. I'm not good at id'ing vis. but I could recognize it in a pic. OR if anyone knows who it is... [ 120.75 ]
2106z/ GILLY 1; Switch to Baltimore [Tower??]

--
jay ..

 

[freqhopping]

2057z/ GILLY 1; Visual -- All blue with yellow stripe in the middle
all the way round. I'm not good at id'ing vis. but I could recognize it in a pic. OR if anyone knows who it is... [ 120.75 ]
2106z/ GILLY 1; Switch to Baltimore [Tower??]
..

Like this?

 

[TinEar]

It sure is quiet in the MilAir world this evening. I thought the holiday stand down was starting tomorrow but it appears it's already in effect.
1739: CRAB ?? (C-130J MD-ANG Martin State Airport) departs MTN and reports airborne time as 35 past the hour to Crab Ops. Ground op wishes him a good flight...CRAB says he'll see her later...385.9
1751: REACH 0328 arriving Andrews with Command Post...no cargo, just crew baggage...parking in spot 11-A...141.55

We do have an Andrews ramp freeze for later tonight - if anyone is still awake:
AIR TERMINAL RAMP FREEZE 22 NOV 03:45 UNTIL 22 NOV 04:15

1824: REACH 3117 reports to Andrews he's off the ground at this time...378.1
1825: Have had an aircraft working with Patuxent on 354.8 since 1810 doing BFM activity...transmitter is muffled...his suffix is 24 and his callsign may be OSPREY (yes, it is)
[I logged an OSPREY callsign working with a WATERBUG aircraft over a year ago on 8/24/05 in the Pax area.]
1831: OSPREY 24 is declaring an emergency///says he's on top of a solid IMC layer and his de-icing equpment is not working so he cannot descend...354.8
1833: OSPREY 24 handed off to ZDC-Calvert 133.9..he repeats the nature of the emergency...says he needs to stay at FL 240 to find an open spot...follows that by saying he'd like block 18-19000.
1835: DC 23 (KC-135R Andrews) calling Mcguire CP on 319.4 but says he's on Victor..no joy after a couple of calls.
1836: OSPREY 24 says he's going to hold his current altitude for the next 20 miles and thinks he can then descend into a VMC area...133.9
1838-49: AIREVAC 169 calling SAM Command...no joy after several calls...378.1 (he's tried two transmitters)
1841: OSPREY 24 still with ZDC-Calvert 133.9 saying he wants to start descending now to 15000...still has clouds below him but thinks it's clear ahead...cleared to 16000...also states he has plenty of fuel
1844: OSPREY 24 requesting turn to 330 degrees...and he's cleared now down to 15000 feet...133.9
1848: OSPREY 24 says he's having a tough time finding a hole in the clouds...says he's going to turn back to Pax River and do an emergency descent through the clouds (and hope for the best)...wants clearance back to Pax. (Not sure where he was being led before turning for Pax)
1849: AIREVAC 169 makes contact with SAM Command at Andrews...arriving 05 past the hour, 11 pax...378.1
1853: In response to something the ZDC controller said, OSPREY 24 states..."Is Andrews clear right now?"...133.9
1854: OSPREY 24 says he'll try that (meaning go to Andrews)...says again his right wing de-icer is not working so he can't descend through the clouds...133.9
1854: OSPREY 24 asks if ground copied his request to go direct Andrews (which he was thinking but didn't say out loud)....he's cleared to Andrews...133.9
1857: OSPREY 24 handed off to Potomac TRACON 128.35 where he checks in saying he's heading direct Andrews....he repeats the emergency and states he needs to stay at his present altitude above the clouds
1859: OSPREY 24 repeats that his de-icing equipment is not working...says he's not in icing at this time but has to descend through icing conditions in the clouds at some point so....(and leaves it there)...128.35

1901: OSPREY 24 says he wants to descend now from 19000 to 5000...he's cleared to do that...128.35
1901: HOIST 90 (KC-10A McGuire) with arrival msg to McGuire Command Post...319.4
1902: OSPREY 24 says he's fine and they can cancel the emergency (which means he went through the clouds without icing up)...128.35
1903: OSPREY 24 changes his mind again...now requesting direct Patuxent...128.35 (which means he made it through the clouds, is out of danger so wants to go home)
1906: OSPREY 24 handed off to Pax Approach where he checks in in a descent to 5000 feet...then asks for 3000 and a visual approach...120.05
1908: REACH 282 calling Andrews...378.1
1908: CRAB 52 (C-130J MTN) calling Crab Ops to report 20 minutes out, 23K on the fuel...Crab Ops tells him to switch to 148.925 since he's garbled...385.9
1909: CRAB 52 calls Crab Ops...148.925 (no reply)
1910-27: REACH 297 calling SAM Command...no joy...378.1 (Many, many calls...no reply)
1913: CRAB 52 tries again on 148.925 and again no joy so switches back to Uniform freq 385.9 and repeats his arrival msg...now 15 minutes out, 23K on the gas when he lands
1916-26: REACH 282 still trying to contact Andrews...378.1 (many calls, no replies)
1919: CRAB 52 with Martin State Tower for full stop landing...121.3

End log for now...back later

 

[dehm]

Re: Gilly 1

Like this?

That's it exactly! It flew directly over my house to join 495. As I listened to 120.75, I heard it loud and clear and ran outside for visual. Thanks for the confirm/pic as well =) I had been hearing that callsign over the last few weeks and wondered what type craft it was.

cheers,

jay

"""""""""""""""

 

[freqhopping]

Bingo!!

jay

It's the same at the MUSSELL helicopters, 1st Helo Squadron at Andrews.

 

[CitationJet]

Re: GILLY 1

Hi guys,

Just wanted to throw this out to the forum while keeping in mind that I do not collect helos or pay much attention to them; but I am thinking that it is highly unlikely that GILLY 1 would be a UH-1N from the 316th Wing/1st HS and would be involved in traffic survey, etc. work? I could be totally wrong but have a look at some of the photos here and then you guys can decide...

http://www.americanheli.com/

Best regards,

Tony

 

[dehm]

11/22/2006 Logs

11-22-2006 Logs
---------------------------
1358z/ PAT 819; ILS 1R APP Andrews
.. 119.3 < 118.4

1407z/ JOSA 857
.. 118.675 < 120.65 < 133.275 < ...

1422z/ NAVY 377; DEPs ADW, Shortly after diverts back to ADW due to weather
.. 125.65 < 124.55 < 12?.55 < ..... < 118.4

1437z/ VENUS 26; DEP ADW; Back again @ 1444z for Options NDB RWY 1L APP; Assumed practice APP's
.. 119.3 < 118.4 (again)

 

[CitationJet]

On the backup BC3000XLT today so I'm losing a lot of the flights after they get out a bit...

11.22.2006

1330Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - N3 (Ce560XL N3 FAA) - deps DCA to 17000' dir LDN QSY 123.825.

1408Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - COAST GUARD 102 (C-143A 02) - deps DCA to 11000'.
1415Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - DC 31 (KC-135R 459th ARW AFRC Andrews) - heading out from ADW to 11000'.

1520Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - PACER 21 (C-21A Andrews) - deps ADW to 17000'.
1536Z 254.250 Potomac DEP - WILD 1 flight (F-16C/D 121st FS DC ANG Andrews) - checks in 11000' for 17000' non-standard.
1541Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - JOSA 596 (C-21A) - deps ADW to 11000' dir LDN to 17000' QSY 123.825.
1543Z 378.100 GRIFFIN CP Andrews - JOSA 596 (C-21A) - reports off time ADW 1538Z.

1628Z 119.300 Potomac APP - VENUS 26 (C-20 86-0206) - up practicing apps.
1630Z 378.100 LIBERATOR CP Andrews - DC 31 (KC-135R 459th ARW AFRC Andrews) - wkg LIBERATOR here.
1638Z 349.000 Andrews AFB TWR - WILD 1 (F-16C/D 121st FS DC ANG Andrews) - four ship flight "dual? ship recovery" for the ILS 1L.
1653Z 378.100 SAM CP Andrews - EVAC 00328 (KC-135R 60-0328 22nd ARW McConnell) - t/off time ADW 1651Z.
1654Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - EVAC 00328 (KC-135R 60-0328 22nd ARW McConnell) - deps ADW dir LDN to FL230 QSY ZDC-Linden 120.650.

 

[dehm]

Hi guys,

Just wanted to throw this out to the forum while keeping in mind that I do not collect helos or pay much attention to them; but I am thinking that it is highly unlikely that GILLY 1 would be a UH-1N from the 316th Wing/1st HS and would be involved in traffic survey, etc. work? I could be totally wrong but have a look at some of the photos here and then you guys can decide...

http://www.americanheli.com/

Best regards,

Tony

A traffic survey in a restricted zone?

j

 

[CitationJet]

Re: GILLY 1

Hi Jay,

Never mind, I was thinking of FETTER 1 and got them mixed up, sorry!!

Tony

A traffic survey in a restricted zone?

j

 

[md_p97]

Not sure if the cap is up yet or not, but 3 Marine Sea Kings overflew Germantown at about 1:35 headed north.

Paul

 

[freqhopping]

That would definately be POTUS. I'm actually kind of surprised he flew up due to the weather, but with the way road traffic is today it didn't leave much of a choice.

No CAP comms yet, but I have been hearing MUSSELL-07 on 292.2. Not sure what he's up to yet. Comms are kind of broken.

 

[TinEar]

I would guess they are letting BLACKJACK handle the security of airspace until the rain stops just as they've been doing overnight recently. It looks like this rain will be with us at least until tomorrow morning and possibly until later in the day. I'd look for the fighters as soon as the sky starts to clear.

 

[TinEar]

1213: No time to monitor today but just turned on a scanner to see if the CAP is active. It is. There is a two ship flight using 260.9 as primary, presumably with HUNTRESS, flying the Guard Dog CAP. No callsigns heard yet. Will report them only if used in the next 5-10 minutes and then I've got to run.
1216: PITMAN 35 and 36 are the fighters, F-16s, from the 20th Fighter Wing at Shaw AFB....just gave a PIREP on the wx in the CAP area...260.9
Not hearing the HUNTRESS ground controller today. Even with an open squelch it's just a faint voice that's much too weak here to pick out his words.
1231: PITMAN 35 asks HUNTRESS to call MAD DOG at DSN XXX-XXXX to confirm link usage (Link 16) before the next crew takes off to head for this area. Faintly heard HUNTRESS repeat the DSN and acknowledge...260.9
1233: While on 260.9, PITMAN 35 tells his wingman to come up "Mission Victor" and they come up on freq 141.75 (V-9) which should ID them as being from the 77th Fighter Squadron at Shaw.
1235: Back on primary 260.9, the pilots advise the weather is getting better by the minute. They also are planning their fuel for an 1845Z start for home. (1345 local time)
1237: Again on 260.9, flight leader tells wingman to go to "Comm 2" and they come up on Guard Dog's victor freq 135.525 for a radio check.

And I've been here too long already. You've got the freqs (other than refueling boom freq and the ID on TANKER XX). Back later if not for the expected overeating "sleepies."

(Late add as I go out the door....the KC-135 refueler is TANKER 04 and the boom freq is 228.9.)

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[TinEar]

1800: PITMAN 41/42 is the current fighter pair manning the CAP. Primary freq is still 260.9, boom freq is 228.9 and this pair is using 140.375 for interflight which is not one of the presets we've recovered during past PITMAN CAP flights. They haven't used a preset number that I've heard - at least so far for this freq.
1820: PITMAN 41 is refueling with the current KC-135 on station - TANKER 05...228.9
1824: Looks like this is the last refueling for this pair before heading home...PITMAN 41 has taken a total of 18,500 pounds during his shift...228.9
1827: PITMAN 42 is now taking a turn at the tanker to fill his tanks in preparation for the homebound trip once the next pair takes over within the next 30 minutes or so....228.9
1830: And the next pair is on the way...PITMAN 43/44 currently with ZDC-Montebello 284.7
The flight leader for the new pair, PITMAN 43, is a female. That's a bit unusual. No...it's a LOT unusual.
1834: PITMAN 43/44 handed off to Guard Dog on 288.35
1836: PITMAN 42 completes refueling...total offload during shift was 21,600 pounds for him...228.9
1838: TANKER 05 picking up clearance home...requesting direct MGW (Elkins) at FL 340...135.525
1839: TANKER 06 entering the area with Guard Dog...135.525
1840: PITMAN 41 asking for clearance back to Shaw in 15 minutes...135.525
1840: PITMAN 43 entering the CAP and heading for the tanker...260.9
1841: PITMAN 43 given the word that she has to wait for the new tanker to arrive before refueling...260.9
1841: TANKER 05 cleared out of Guard Dog...135.525
1846: PITMAN 41 to Guard Dog picks up clearance to Shaw via Nottingham at FL 240...135.525
1846: TANKER 06 with Guard Dog requesting to enter the area...135.525
1847: PITMAN 41 flight handed to ZDC-Swann 360.7 and check in there at FL 240
1848: TANKER 06 clears onto HUNTRESS freq at FL 250...260.9
1850: PITMAN 41/42 flight handed to ZDC-Brooke 327.0 where they check in at FL 240 direct Shaw
1852: PITMAN 41/42 still using interflight freq 140.375 as they fly out of the area
1852: PITMAN 41/42 handed to ZDC-Montebello 284.7 and check in there at FL 240
1853: PITMAN 43 and 44 over to the boom freq to refuel with TANKER 06...228.9
I haven't found the interflight freq for PITMAN 43/44 yet....yes I have, they just came up on 143.8 which is preset V-8 for the 77th Fighter Squadron.
1856: PITMAN 43 asking the boom operator to turn up the lights on the boom...she can't see the boom even after he says he has them all the way up...228.9 (this could be interesting...but isn't...she has it and is going for connect)

1902: PITMAN 43 completes refueling and heads back to the CAP...PITMAN 44 heading for the boom for his fuel...228.9
1903: PITMAN 43 checks back on HUNTRESS' freq...260.9
1904: PITMAN 41/42 handed off to ZDC-Raleigh 322.45 where they try to check in but get no response to a couple of calls...they bypassed the normal checkin with Norfolk on 327.8 for some reason and might just be too far out from Raleigh
1905: PITMAN 44 finishes refueling...228.9 They both go to interflight 143.8 to chat about fuel remainders and decide on flight levels
1906: PITMAN 44 checks onto the HUNTRESS primary freq...260.9
Looks like PITMAN 43/44 might be one of those talkative pairs...chatting about what they can see on the targetting pod...checking weather in the area...say it's clearing to the east...143.8
1914: PITMAN 44 asks 43 where Dulles is located...she (43) tells him it's in Maryland but located under the listings for Washington. Well, she's half right. It is listed under the D.C. listings but last I checked it was in Virginia...143.8
1920: PITMAN 43 is seeing nothing on her datalink...asks HUNTRESS if he's showing the surveillance tracks...260.9
1921: TANKER 06 asking Guard Dog if he has any of the scores for the games today...135.525 (No TV on his flight I guess.)
Everyone settled in for now until they end the CAP at 11 p.m. local if it follows the past few CAPs. No more logging until the end unless something interesting happens.

2043: PITMAN 43 taking her jet to TANKER 06 for fuel...228.9
PITMAN 43/44 have been non-stop chatting on interflight preset freq 143.8 for the previous half hour before deciding to take on fuel.
2051: There was just another reference to a boom intercom that's separate from the boom freq. PITMAN 43 says she couldn't use the UHF and would have to talk over the air to the boom operator. However, this is the first time I've heard it referenced as being UHF...228.9
2055: PITMAN 43 completes refueling with TANKER 06...228.9...she switched to HUNTRESS primary...260.9
2058: PITMAN 44 heading for the tanker...228.9

2233: PITMAN 43 going to TANKER 06 once again...last refueling before heading home...she wants about 2500 pounds...228.9
2245: TANKER 06 asking PITMAN 44 if he needs gas because the tanker is leaving in about 4 minutes...228.9
44 goes to interflight to say he's got 7K now and asks if he should get more. 43 tells him to take 1000...143.8
44 back to HUNTRESS 260.9 to say he's going to the tanker and then over to 228.9 with TANKER 06. TANKER 06 allows as how he'll wait for 44. I'm sure that made him happy. Indications are that the CAP will end at 2300 as they've been doing recently.
2252: PITMAN 44 ready to make boom contact...says now he'll take 1500 pounds...228.9
And a minute later the 1500 has been passed.
2255: TANKER 06 to Guard Dog to get his clearance home...asking for and cleared direct Tinker...135.525
2257: PITMAN 44 announces both fighters are Code 1...43 has 7000 and 44 has 7800 pounds of fuel...260.9
2258: PITMAN flight working Guard Dog on 288.35 for their clearance back to Shaw.

2301: TANKER 06 handed off to ZDC-Potomac 133.975 where he checks in at FL 280
2301: PITMAN 43/44 cleared direct Shaw...288.35
2303: PITMAN 43/44 handed to ZDC-Brooke 327.0 where they check in direct shaw
2303: TANKER 06 reports chop at his altitude and wants higher...133.975
2305: PITMAN 43 requests to climb to FL 260...is cleared for that altitude...327.0
I've never heard so much chat from a pair of fighters as with PITMAN 43 and 44. It seems 44 has an upcoming test and interview for a job. He wanted to study. 43 wouldn't shut up. She kept asking him about the test, what kind of questions he expected, what was in the books he got to study and running off at the mouth for the entire four hour shift. Needless to say, he got no study time. She's still talking on 143.8 as they ride off into the sunset heading for Shaw. I'm very tempted to say something about putting a chatty woman in a fighter seat. But that would be sexist, wouldn't it? She'd make me crazy if I had to fly with her. But she's the flight leader for this mission so I guess he couldn't tell her to put a muzzle on it.

So that's the end of the CAP for tonight. They should be back early in the morning for you early birds.

 

[freqhopping]

CAP is back just before 0600. Fighters have just finished refueling, the pair PITMAN-45/46.

Tac is preset V12 -139.925

0931- Target of interest heading SW. ALERT-1 is 'hawking' above him and the target is maintaining a steady course.
0933- Switching to 126.1 (Potomac TRACON 331-090)
0935- Plane is described as a Bonanza V-tail with a red stripe. Tail number N-7925R, comes back as a Beech V35A. Flight aware shows an itinerary of: Depart-Taunton Municipal Airport (Taunton, MA) [KTAN] Fri 07:36AM EST Destination: Smith Reynolds (KINT) Winston-Salem, NC Fri 11:10AM EST
0939- Returned to the CAP
0941- Now discussing RTB plans through ZDC-Brooke.
0956- Preparing to refuel.

(Listening at work to my home-based feed so I can't stop it on active freqs, just getting what's in between public safety. Really need to get around to setting up remote access.)

Cutting it awfully close.

 

[nightwatch]

dc cap

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[CitationJet]

11.24.2006

1517Z 139.925 77th FS TAC V12 - UNID PITMANs up on 77th TAC V12 right now discussing aircraft that is squawking 7600 but is not in comms with CAP a/c. Once he lands, he'll have a chance to explain what he's doing. Also mentions writeups coming.
1520Z 260.900 ZDC-HUNTRESS - UNID PITMAN informing HUNTRESS that PITMAN 46 and PITMAN 52 will be the primary players.
1524Z 260.900 ZDC-HUNTRESS - PITMAN 46 to PITMAN 52 - PITMAN 46 will remain as wingman and PITMAN 45 has a gadget stuck so until the other...comms faded.
1525Z 260.900 ZDC-HUNTRESS - PITMAN 52, 45 is at 21500', 46 at 22500', and TANKER is at FL240.
1530Z 260.900 ZDC-HUNTRESS - PITMAN 45 - to TANKER 8 - refueling on 228.900 and all other comms with HUNTRESS on 260.900. TANKER 8 requests PITMAN 45 to come up on 228.900.
1535Z 260.900 ZDC-HUNTRESS - PITMAN 52 - up with ZDC-Guard Dog (135.525 controller side) - maintain block alt. FL210-250, TANKER is at 11 o'clock 45 miles, can push to tactical freq - 52 informs radar contact with TANKER.
1536Z 139.925 77th FS TAC V12 - PITMAN 52 - to PITMAN 45 - 52 is entering GUARD DOG MOA in the SW corner @ FL240. TANKER will be monitoring 135.525, 46 in the N of the MOA. Rest of comms faded.
1540Z 260.900 ZDC-HUNTRESS - PITMAN 52 - nose is cold QSY boom freq 228.900. 45 mentions that 46 will remain in N while 52 gets gas, then 52 will take up the N.
1541Z 135.525 ZDC-GUARD DOG - PITMAN 45 is ready for RTB Shaw AFB - initial heading 090 maintain FL210 will have dir Shaw in a minute.
1543Z 135.525 ZDC-GUARD DOG - PITMAN 45 to FL200. QSY ZDC-Calvert 281.400.
1544Z 139.925 77th FS TAC V12 - PITMAN 52 to PITMAN 46 - operational chatter then mentions "when 51 gets up here.."
1545Z 228.900 TANKER 08 - finishing refueling with 52 then 52 comes back to 139.925 with 46.

1603Z 139.925 77th FS TAC V12 - PITMAN 52 position is currently 10 mis SE of Andrews.
1605Z 139.925 77th FS TAC V12 - PITMAN 46 and 52 coordinating line coverage in the GUARD DOG MOA.
1626Z 118.400 Andrews AFB TWR - VENUS 43 - lands rwy 1R.

1704Z 260.900 ZDC-HUNTRESS - PITMAN 52 looking for a bullseye position on TANKER 8 - PITMAN 52 declares weapons safe. Has contact @ 1706Z.
1707Z 228.900 TANKER 08 looking for PITMAN 52 - PITMAN 52 QSYs from 260.900 and is up 5 mis to the E, then refuels and hits the road back into the CAP @ 1714Z and reports back up to HUNTRESS on 260.900.