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[HM1529]

Ben what freq did the FLYER flight use for Reading? Was it the 257.9 freq?

Yes, 257.9 is the RDG Approach freq I have in the scanner. They must have been staying pretty low on the way out because they were coming in slightly broken when I heard them.

Ben

 

[HM1529]

Air Evacinbound Andrews

Air Evac 94 (or 984) up on Dover AFB Metro 342.000 looking for PIREP for Andrews AFB. He is reporting 50 miles west of Willow Grove at 10:55 PM inbound to Andrews.

 

[freqhopping]

MUSSELL-06 and 03 just departed Leesburg KJYO, heading eastbound 15 minutes out, A1. 292.2

One of them mistakenly made their local traffic advisory on that freq instead of Leesburg unicom 122.975

 

[TinEar]

Air Evac 94 (or 984) up on Dover AFB Metro 342.000 looking for PIREP for Andrews AFB. He is reporting 50 miles west of Willow Grove at 10:55 PM inbound to Andrews.

EVAC 50984 came from the midwest to Wheeler-Sack at Ft. Drum, then to Andrews.

 

[HM1529]

Around 10:15 this morning, I heard the unmistakable "whump whump whump"
of a Huey passing over my office.

I usually have my PRO-96 on the desk during the day to monitor police and fire since my fire pager doesn't always activate in my steel and concrete office building. The only mil stuff I have in that scanner right now though is the Tower freq for Willow Grove 119.6.

I was able to catch the helo calling KNXX and he ID'd as Guard 21764. He requested the freq for "Navy GCA" and that was the last I heard.

According to the Scramble database, this would be:
73-21764 Co C UH-1H 2-126th AVN DE ARNG, or A/3-126th AVN

Also, for anyone who hasn't found it already, I came across this gentelman's website: http://home.att.net/~jbaugher/

He has got a huge listing of military aircraft serial numbers by service and year. It helped me figure out the Huey I heard was built in 1973 which allowed me to get the unit info from www.Scramble.nl.

As a side note, I have to say that riding in a Huey is one neat thing to do. I've had the pleasure several times through work of riding in a UH-1H. It's like off roading in a tractor trailer up in the sky...helps you figure out which fillings need replacing.

Ben

 

[DarkPhoenix]

I believe I just heard UGLY**** on KABE Approach 397.9 then on KPHL Approach on 291.7 heading direct Willow Grove. Can anyone confirm?

 

[CitationJet]

02.02.2007

Two from the drive home last night:

02.01.2007

2300Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - DC 44 - deps ADW dir AML to 17000' QSY ZDC-Linden 120.650.
2342Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - PAT 983 - @ 8000' requesting the ILS rwy 32 @ DAA.

02.02.2007

1447Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - JOSA 451 (C-21A) - deps ADW to 17000' dir LDN QSY 118.675.
1450Z 378.100 Andrews AFB CP - JOSA 359 (C-21A) - airborne time ADW 1445Z.
1454Z 372.200 Andrews AFB PTD - CODY 02 - clg here no joy.
1459Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - JENA 622 (G5 596GA) - deps DCA to 11000' dir FLUKY QSY 121.050.

Reception here today has been ridiculous...

1608Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - PAT 975 (C-12) - deps DAA to 5000' join V286 QSY 126.400.
1630Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - NAVY 7C 195 (UC-12B NAS Oceana NFD shuttle) - deps DAA @ 1700' for 2000' cleared to 5000'.

1712Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - PAT 1264 (C-12T 85-1264 OSACOM VA RFC Davison) - deps DAA 1000' for 2000' cleared to 12000' dir HAFNR dir GVE.
1714Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - MARINE 666 - deps ADW 1700' for 3000' cleared to 16000' dir FLUKY.

1802Z 119.300 Potomac APP - PAT 431 - 4000' for 3000' on the app to ADW.
1855Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - NAVY 375 (C-37A 166375) - deps ADW to 17000' QSY 123.825.
1856Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - JOSA 618 (C-21A) - deps ADW to 9000'.

1900Z 378.100 GRIFFIN CP Andrews - JOSA 618 (C-21A) - reports wheelup time of 1854Z.
1906Z 119.300 Potomac APP - JOSA 672 (C-21A) - 4400' for 3000' vectors for the ILS rwy 1L.
1933Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - PAT 1264 (C-12T 85-1264 OSACOM VA RFC Davison) - returning 4000' for 2000' on the app to rwy 32 @ DAA 4 nms. from the final approach fix for rwy 32 QSY Davison AAF TWR 126.300 and lands rwy 32.
1933Z 118.400 Andrews AFB TWR - VENUS 24 (C-20B 86-0204 99th AS) - 8 nm. final for the ILS rwy 1L.
1933Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - PAT 317 - deps ADW to 12000' QSY 123.825.

2023Z 126.300 Davison AAF TWR - PAT 2401 (Davison C-12T pm shuttle) 1500' for 2000' cleared to 5000' dir GRUBY.
2024Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - NAVY JR 990 (C-20G VR-48 NAF Washington) - deps ADW @ 1700' for 3000' recleared to 4000' then 7000' to 17000' QSY 123.825.
2037Z 119.300 Potomac APP - VENUS 92 (VC-25A 82-9000) - cleared for the ILS app to rwy 1L @ ADW.
2039Z 118.400 Andrews AFB TWR - VENUS 92 (VC-25A 82-9000) - @ final app fix gear down for the ILS rwy 1L.
2042Z 118.400 Andrews AFB TWR - EASY 569 (MASD NAS JRB New Orleans) - on the ILS rwy 1R full stop.
2050Z 119.300 Potomac APP - EASY 894 (MASD NAS JRB New Orleans) - maintain 2000' until established on the ILS 1L approach QSY Andrews AFB TWR 118.400.
2052Z 118.400 Andrews AFB TWR - JOSA 451 (C-21A) - lands rwy 1L.

2100Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - REACH 1298 (KC-135R 126th ARS WI ANG) - deps ADW 2000' for 3000' cleared to 16000' QSY 123.825..
2103Z 141.550 Andrews AFB CP - REACH 1298 (KC-135R 126th ARS WI ANG) - reports takeoff time 2100Z relay to DSN # ###-#### ETA in 1hr.30min.
2105Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - SPACE 1 (C-21A) - deps ADW to 17000' dir LDN QSY ZDC-Linden 120.650 with a 290 kt. speed restriction.
2114Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - NAVY 700 - deps ADW dir LDN to 17000' QSY ZDC-Linden 120.650.
2116Z 372.200 Andrews AFB PTD - SPACE 1 (C-21A) - clg Andrews Disptach here no joy.
2117Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - AVALON 74 (C-9C 932nd AW AFRC) - deps ADW to 17000' QSY ZDC-Linden 120.650.
2133Z 118.400 Andrews AFB TWR - NAVY JS 013 (C-9B VR-46 NAS Atlanta) - 10 nms. out on the ILS 1L @ ADW.
2134Z 118.400 Andrews AFB TWR - NAVY 392 () - lands rwy 1L.
2138Z 378.100 Andrews AFB CP - REACH 8402 () - on short final req. parking space.

2226Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - EASY 894 (MASD NAS JRB New Orleans) - deps ADW cleared dir GVE to FL210 QSY 121.050.
2229Z 119.300 Potomac APP - MARINE 757 - 3400' for 3000' QSY Andrews AFB TWR 118.400 and cleared for the ILS to rwy 1L.

 

[dparana]

DarkPhoenix,

UGLY flight of two was up in the DUKE MOA and headed out at about 10:30AM. They were using 138.50 Air To Air and were returning to base. They entered the DUKE around 9:40AM and were doing some Laser bomb runs, then some ACM with each other, refuelled with STEEL 61 (171st ARW Pittsburgh) on 259.40 (DUKE Secondary), did one more bomb run, then left. Sorry for the brief report, I'm home under the weather.

UGLY flight requested direct East Texas (ETX VOR), Yardley, then Willow Grove.

Dave

 

[TinEar]

Yes, 257.9 is the RDG Approach freq I have in the scanner. They must have been staying pretty low on the way out because they were coming in slightly broken when I heard them.

Ben

Thanks Ben. I just wanted to confirm that's the freq they would use for Reading.
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1444: There is a flight of two A-10s of the MD-ANG active on interflight....callsign RAVEN...142.3
1454: MAPLE 36 (F-16 VT-ANG Burlington) with ZDC-Salisbury at FL 270...257.7
1458: MAPLE 36 handed off to ZDC-Coyle and checks in FL 270...254.3
I have to keep the 254.3 freq locked out because of constant noise on it and just turn to it when I hear someone switching to it. Anyone else have the same problem on that freq?

1500: MAPLE 36 cleared direct Kennedy...254.3
1506: MAPLE 36 handed to ZNY-Kennedy, checks in at FL 270 and requests direct Burlington when able...282.3
1506: PAT 441 to Leesburg Radio FSS...IDs as a BE-20/G, white in color with 4 SOB...says he was originally going to Hartford CT but that has been changed to Bradley CT. He wants to open another leg of the flight plan to take him from Bradley CT (BDL) to Quonset RI (OQU) via Providence RI (PVD). Says it's 20 minutes enroute. He's asked for the pilot's name but replies that all he's supposed to say is that it's on file...255.4
1515: MAPLE 36 handed off to ZBW-Kingston and checks in at FL 270...290.35 (That was last heard from him.)
1517: U/I (maybe REACH) 9008 to Dover CP with arrival message...20 minutes out, A-3 for his #4 engine vibrating...says it's a brand new engine and this is the first flight with it...has had two abnormal spikes...has zero pax or cargo but does have 13 crew members...349.4
1523: RAVEN 1 to Raven Ops to report 10 minutes out and both are Code 1...says they are separated and will arrive about 5 minutes apart...143.8
1524: RAVEN 2 tells 1 that Pax has turned him around and he's still in R-4006...the turn was for spacing...the two RAVENs are now 20 miles apart...1 tells 2 that he already told Ops they'd land 5 minutes apart so 2 says he'll step it up...142.3
1529: RAVEN 2 reports he's around GRACO at 5000....1 reports he's at 3000 feet just off the end of the runway...142.3
1533: JOSA 451 calling Andrews Dispatch...no reply...372.2 (Aircraft heading to Andrews have been having trouble making contact on 141.55/378.1 CP freqs the past week or so. The old receiver problem again?)
1534: RAVEN 1 to Martin State Tower for landing approach...297.2
1535: RAVENs say visibility is pretty low...142.3
1537: RAVEN 1 reports gear down, cleared to land...297.2
1538: ?GUPPY? 07, calling HUNTRESS...no reply...364.2
1539: ?GUPPY? 07 calling OAK GROVE...no reply...364.2
1539-41: ?GUPPY? 07 calls HUNTRESS and OAK GROVE over and over, no reply...364.2
GUPPY is a KC-135 from the 126th ARW, IL-ANG at O'Hare International Airport - if I got the callsign right. It also sounded like GUMBY at times. I was under the impression that OAK GROVE no longer exists now that SEADS and NEADS have been combined and that it should all be HUNTRESS.
1541: RAVEN 2 to MTN Tower...297.2
1542: RAVEN 2 talking to 1 who is already on the ground telling him he's still 10 miles out...they had him turning all over the place...142.3
1551: BATON ?? with Baton Ops for arrival message...395.1
1552-53: Raven Ops (Mama Hawg) talking with her RAVEN A-10s on the ground at MTN...just chat...347.2

1602: REACH 8402 calling U/I Dispatch...372.2
1606: REACH 4138 arriving Andrews with Command Post...378.1
1614: ASCOT 6080 calling Langley Metro...239.8
1615: COBRA 70 (OC-135 5th RS, 55th Wing, Offutt AFB, NE [Open Skies]) calling Andrews CP...378.1
1616: COBRA 70 to Griffin Command at Andrews with arrival message....30 minutes out, needs parking spot, transportation for 16 souls, airstairs and one truck of fuel - then says 40,000 pounds of fuel...378.1
1618: REACH 8402 to Andrews CP with arrival msg...10 minutes out, A-1, arriving with 15,000 pounds of fuel...378.1

Enough. End of log.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

DarkPhoenix,

UGLY flight of two was up in the DUKE MOA and headed out at about 10:30AM. They were using 138.50 Air To Air and were returning to base. They entered the DUKE around 9:40AM and were doing some Laser bomb runs, then some ACM with each other, refuelled with STEEL 61 (171st ARW Pittsburgh) on 259.40 (DUKE Secondary), did one more bomb run, then left. Sorry for the brief report, I'm home under the weather.

UGLY flight requested direct East Texas (ETX VOR), Yardley, then Willow Grove.

Dave

Thanks Dave! I wasn't really sure what I was hearing but I figured it was something out of the ordinary (non commercial) due to the distict diference the in the audio. Then I heard the call sign. I did hear some air to air chit chat (not sure what freq.) but they were joking around about how it's been a dry winter so far.

 

[CitationJet]

Re: GUPPY

Hi Tin,

The 126th ARW IL ANG transferred to Scott AFB from ORD in 1999, just to update that entry on the callsign list.

Best regards,

Tony

1539-41: ?GUPPY? 07 calls HUNTRESS and OAK GROVE over and over, no reply...364.2
GUPPY is a KC-135 from the 126th ARW, IL-ANG at O'Hare International Airport - if I got the callsign right.

 

[TinEar]

Hi Tin,

The 126th ARW IL ANG transferred to Scott AFB from ORD in 1999, just to update that entry on the callsign list.

Best regards,

Tony

Spasibo, mam'noon, takk, shukria, toda or just simply thanks Tony. (Language practice)
I'll make the change to the list.

2000-09: HOIST 95 (KC-10A McGuire AFB) has been trying to get his arrival message to McGuire Command Post but is having difficulty. He's tried a couple of different transmitters. At the start, he was 20 minutes out, A-2 and has zero pax or cargo...just wants parking. He apparently is also having trouble with a request for a quick turnaround - said they called from their last station to get it arranged and he tries to describe the voice of the female he talked with. Says he'll call when he gets closer...319.4

2113: REACH 461 to Dover CP...no reply...349.4
2118: REACH 461 to Dover CP with arrival message...15 minutes out, IDs as a C-5 on the way to Ramstein (Germany), is A-2 for a left center door - the troop door - needs to be adjusted because the light is on indicating door is open. It happened when climbing out from Wright Patt(erson AFB)...wants info on upload then asks if it's hot cargo...349.4
2127: REACH 461 adds that he has 5 pax on board - 3 going through and 2 for Dover...349.4
2142-44: PETRO 41 [female] (KC-10A McGuire) calling McGuire Command Post...x3, no replies...319.4
2147: PETRO 41 makes contact with McGuire CP for arrival message...ETA 0313Z, A-2 with multiple writeups, zero pax or cargo, needs airstairs...319.4
2149: PETRO 41 calling McGuire again and gets no reply...319.4
2151: PETRO 41 makes contact with McGuire to ask if they received her last message...apparently MCP didn't so she repeats the arrival message and adds that they have 13 writeups. She gives the first as the ground warning system is inop along with a couple of others (that I wasn't fast enough to copy)...says the rest are minor...says they're TDY and have crew bags.
[We've been assigning PETRO as McGuire based but I'm not so sure of that. It appeared PETRO 41 was indicating they're TDY to McGuire which would make them from elsewhere.]
2155: ?GUMBY? 07 (Same aircraft I had earlier today that I thought was GUPPY. Still not sure if it's GUPPY or GUMBY...sounds more like GUMBY this time.) He's calling "Metro" on 356.2 which is a Willow Grove Metro freq.
2157: PETRO 41 gets parking spot India-3...319.4
2158: REACH 461 still in the air around Dover...mentions something about ILS problem...349.4 (He should have landed about 25 minutes ago per his arrival message.)

2203: GUMBY 07 with ZDC-Brooke heading for FL 260...327.0
2204: GUMBY 07 handed off to ZDC-Calvert and checks in passing 30,4(00) for FL 260...281.4
This guy just doesn't enunciate clearly which is why I'm having trouble with his callsign. GUMBY is good for A-10s from the MA-ANG Barnes if that's what it is. GUPPY is a KC-135 from IL-ANG Scott AFB as mentioned this afternoon when he was calling HUNTRESS and OAK GROVE. (See log 1538-1541 above)
2209: GUMBY 07 with a request to ZDC-Calvert...says he's heading for Flat Rock (FAK) and after that wants to go to Pax (PXT)...then repeats PXT three more times. (Guess the controller can't understand his flat, monotone voice either.)...281.4
2212: GUMBY 07 handed off to ZDC-Blackstone and checks in and repeats his request for PXT after Flat Rock...235.625
2214: GUMBY 07 mumbles something about a full stop (possibly at Pax)...235.625
I don't believe this guy is either an A-10 or a KC-135 whether his callsign is GUMBY or GUPPY.
2216: REACH 3031 calling Dover Command Post...mentions Mildenhal...tail number is 3-8031..gives ETA as 0930Z (which must be for Mildenhal, not Dover)...349.4
Tail number is probably 63-8031 making him a KC-135 from the 91st Air Refueling Squadron at McDill FL.
2216: GUMBY 07 cleared direct Richmond and then Patuxent...235.625
2222: REACH 3031 asking Dover if they've heard anything from TACC yet...349.4
2222: GUMBY 07 cleared down to FL 230...235.625
2225: GUMBY 07 cleared from FL 230 to 190...then making a left turn toward Patuxent...235.625
One transmission sounds like GUMBY and the next GUPPY.
Sure wish someone else was listening to this guy...I think he's probably loud enough and clear enough for most people but it must be some aversion I have to his vocal tone that prevents me from understanding him.
2228: REACH 3031 to Dover CP telling him he's 16 miles east of Dover flying along the coast toward McGuire and then Gander and the Atlantic area...349.4
2234: REACH 3031 asking for a radio check from Dover...then asks if "they" still have him on hold...349.4 (It appears he's not going to Dover at all...he just had Dover checking something out for him with another party at TACC.)

 

[md_p97]

Tfr

TFR issued for:

Manassas, Va
Tuesday Feb 6, 2007
9:30 am to 11:00am

 

[TinEar]

TFR issued for:

Manassas, Va
Tuesday Feb 6, 2007
9:30 am to 11:00am

There was also one for today from 0905-1225 local time over Williamsburg VA but there doesn't appear to be a CAP active.

Off Topic: Just heard (about 1022) a Coast Guard broadcast on Marine Channel 16 (156.8) giving a Pan-Pan message (Pan-Pan said three times as required). It consisted of... "Two red flares just seen in the Thomas Point Light area" and advising all to be on the lookout for someone in distress.
And at 1119, the Coast Guard Baltimore Sector is repeating the pan-pan message on 156.8 (Ch 16)

Ramp freeze for Andrews this afternoon:
AIR TERMINAL RAMP FREEZE 03 FEB 17:35 UNTIL 03 FEB 18:05 (1235-1305 local)

Around 1115, there is an aircraft working on HUNTRESS' freq 355.2. It's out of my listening range though and I can't capture enough of it to get a callsign or even the gist of the conversation. Perhaps someone from another area can hear him.
Still active on 355.2 at 1122 and I was able to catch a mention of "runway 22" and of "Air National Guard"
Sounds like two aircraft active on the freq.

 

[trainman111]

I don't believe there is a CAP active. Williamsburg is about 40 miles from me and I haven't heard a peep.

*Edit:*
10:30ish AM--I believe we may have a CAP. I have ???? 41 up with ZDC Blackstone mentioning that they're going to be hooking up with PRIMO 71 from Langley. He hasn't specifcally mentioned a CAP but he did mention he's going to be turning east. He now mentions he's ready to MARSA with PRIMO 71 into the block. I'm not sure where these guys are from. I only have the PRIMO c/s has KC-135's from Travis AFB. I'm almost 100% sure about these callsigns as the fighters are pretty much in my back yard. I haven't heard anything from a tanker so they might just be going off coast. I'm beginning to doubt these guys are going into a CAP. ????41 mentions hes at FL410. On another side note, I've got lots of fighter traffic down this way. I've got a bunch of Langley Interflight freqs active along with 4 or 5 ZDC freqs. It's a great day to fly!

 

[Gemini]

315.5

Folks,
I have been working on trying to put a decent tag on 315.5 which is in use at PAX. My problem is something nearby is interferring with me and I am having a heck of a time with it. Any help from you folks would be appreciated until we can get a better ID out of it. Looks like I have a bunch of recorded aduio on it today and I'll review later. Hopefully it will be clean enough for me to pull some stuff out of it. It think I might also put my list of PAX freqs up in here as well. I think I have ran accross a couple of freqs I have not seen discussed anywhere, this list or others, so I suspect they might be new or seldom used. I'll stick them up anyway, can't hurt.

 

[TinEar]

Folks,
I have been working on trying to put a decent tag on 315.5 which is in use at PAX. My problem is something nearby is interferring with me and I am having a heck of a time with it. Any help from you folks would be appreciated until we can get a better ID out of it. Looks like I have a bunch of recorded aduio on it today and I'll review later. Hopefully it will be clean enough for me to pull some stuff out of it. It think I might also put my list of PAX freqs up in here as well. I think I have ran accross a couple of freqs I have not seen discussed anywhere, this list or others, so I suspect they might be new or seldom used. I'll stick them up anyway, can't hurt.

Jeff, it would be very helpful if you'd post that list of Pax freqs as you mentioned. I know you've quoted freqs (like 315.5) that I didn't have and no one is in a better position than you to have a complete and accurate list. I was going to PM you to see if you'd share that list since I'm about to reorganize all my freq lists but posting it would be even better. Many thanks.
I think I've got around 55 freqs for Pax but know I'm missing several per your logs and probably have some that are now obsolete.

1152-59: YANKEE 94 arriving at Andrews with TRACON (ADW App) 335.5 and Tower 349.0
YANKEE 94 is probably a KC-130 from VMGR-452, Stewart ANGB, NY

1209: There's a GRAYHAWK E-2C from VAW-120, Norfolk NAS working Norfolk TRACON...370.925
1228: REACH 3127 giving arrival message to McGuire CP...15 minutes out, A-1 and looking for parking...319.4

There's a neat little story in the February "Airscoop" publication of the 104th Fighter Wing of the MA-ANG. Remember that flight of five HAWK A-10s and the STEEL 71 tanker we heard going to Savannah GA in January? During that deployment, they loaded 30 civilian employers of ANG members on a C-5 and took them to Savannah so they could see what their employees do when they have to take time off from work to participate in ANG activities. They called it the "Boss Lift." What a great way to foster interest and understanding in the community! The story also added that while in Savannah, the 104th loaded up parts and supplies to support the upcoming unit's transition to F-15s. That leaves little doubt that the A-10s are going away from that unit. I'll miss all their trips to Warren Grove Range since we know F-15s won't operate there.

 

[Gemini]

Jeff, it would be very helpful if you'd post that list of Pax freqs as you mentioned. I know you've quoted freqs (like 315.5) that I didn't have and no one is in a better position than you to have a complete and accurate list. I was going to PM you to see if you'd share that list since I'm about to reorganize all my freq lists but posting it would be even better. Many thanks.
I think I've got around 55 freqs for Pax but know I'm missing several per your logs and probably have some that are now obsolete.

1152-59: YANKEE 94 arriving at Andrews with TRACON (ADW App) 335.5 and Tower 349.0
YANKEE 94 is probably a KC-130 from VMGR-452, Stewart ANGB, NY

Tin,
I'll post my list here in a bit. I'll start working on it after making another pot. I am always skiddish about posting my lists as I tend to tag things alot differently than the norm. Let me clean things up and throw a couple explanations on it and we'll get it up an a couple hours I guess

 

[ka3jjz]

Tin,
I'll post my list here in a bit. I'll start working on it after making another pot. I am always skiddish about posting my lists as I tend to tag things alot differently than the norm. Let me clean things up and throw a couple explanations on it and we'll get it up an a couple hours I guess

Jeff, if you wish, please feel free to use the Pax River Wiki to publish if you wish. You can reorganize the page whatever way makes you feel comfortable. There is no mandated format, and any updates would be appreciated. The URL is:

http://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/Patuxent_River_Complex

73s Mike

 

[freqhopping]

1246- AF-1 switches from Nottingham 128.35 to ADW Tower for 1L.
1248- AF-1 gear down