Sticky Thread for MilAir II

[TinEar]

Haven't had much time to listen to the scanners this week other than a few minutes at a time. Wanted to mention that this morning - 0900 hour and into the 1000 hour - the offshore W-386/W-72 areas are just crawling with Langley F-15s and F-22As. Giant Killer freqs 238.1 and 249.8 are just constant traffic with aircraft entering/exiting the areas. Same for the GK ops freqs, the Norfolk TRACON freq and the Langley unit tac freqs and SOF freqs. Just after 1000, there is a DEEJAY F-22A flight climbing to 60,000 feet. He should be heard from Florida to Maine at that altitude. (Okay, slight exaggeration.)
Good listening.

Also in the 1000 hour, there was an F-16 flight of two from the DC-ANG Andrews active using the GUNNY callsign which hasn't been used in quite awhile. They went down to the Pax area to work and are returning home around 1030. Tac 139.15, TRACON 270.275 and, eventually, Tower on 349.0.
At 1035, add an ANGRY flight of two F-16s from Andrews active on tac 143.15...also calling WATERGATE on SOF freq 139.9 reporting 69 miles south of the field. To ADW Tower 349.0 for landing at 1046 but still 14 miles to the south.

The Langley DEEJAY flight is MARSA with MILLER and DEFT flights. All three are F-22A flights so the MILLER callsign needs to be added to the F-22A list. . DEEJAY and DEFT were already on the list. At least so far, once a Langley callsign goes over to the F-22A list, it doesn't seem to be used any longer by the F-15s. That rule seems to have held since the first Langley F-22A callsign was recovered

At 1100, was fairly sure I heard a DART F-22A callsign working with Giant Killer but want to hear it again before confirming it as that aircraft type....not adding it to list yet.

The Langley F-22A callsign list:
Date first heard by me as F-22A follows the callsign
RAPTOR (CAP Duty-01/06), BOBCAT, BIKER (IDs as F-22 on air), MICRO 12/14/05, DEFT 1/12/06, RASTER at Pax River Range 1/18/06, BANDIT 1/23/06, BUGSY 1/24/06, MAI TAI 2/7/06, COWBOY 2/8/06 (IDs on air as F-22 3/1/06), WOLF 2/8/06, JEDI 2/8/06, HOVER 2/9/06, RECAP 2/10/06, SPAD 2/13/06. RUMBLE 2/21/06. STUD 2/27/06. TONGA 2/27/06. NACHO 3/27/06. DEEJAY 3/27/06. RAMBO 5/15/06. MEXICO 7/25/06.
?WINGS? 8/7/06 (wasn't positive I heard this one correctly)
STOMP 8/9/06. LYNX 8/9/06. COBRA 8/15/06. DEVO 8/15/06. RANCHO 8/16/06. MILLER 8/24/06.

 

[Dank]

I'm hearing callsign Wizard calling 'anyone' on 364.2 for a signal check. No responses.

 

[CitationJet]

For what it's worth during a busy day, only two from the drive in this morning...

08/24/2006

1321Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - TRACK 32 (C-21A AFFSA) - deps ADW to 18000' dir LDN QSY 118.675.
1328Z 119.300 Potomac APP - PACER 18 (C-21A 457th AS) - prac. apps.

Back at the radio now:

1731Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - JOSA 497 (C-21A) - deps ADW to 11000' dir GINYA-J149 QSY 118.675.
1732Z 141.550 SAM CP Andrews - JOSA 497 (C-21A 84-0080) - reporting off the deck ADW at 1728Z, tail #40080.

1814Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - AIR FORCE TWO (C-32A 89th AW) - deps ADW.
1822Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - ARMY 23329 (C-12R+ 92-3329 2-228th AVN) - deps ADW QSY 126.65.
1835Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - PAT 044 () - deps ADW dir HAFNR QSY 121.675.
1854Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - PAT 534 () - deps ADW dir LDN QSY 118.675.

1909Z 119.300 Potomac APP - AIR FORCE ONE (VC-25A 89th AW) - vectors for the ILS 1R.
1916Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - RANGER 009 (C-12 VIP ferry) - deps ADW.
1923Z 119.300 Potomac APP - VENUS 41 (C-40B 01-0041 1st AS) - @ 2000' req RNAV to 1L circle to 1R.
1949Z 119.300 Potomac APP - ARMY 01052 (UC-35C 00-1052) - cleared for the visual app to 1R.

2016Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - JOSA 908 (C-21A) - deps ADW to 17000' dir LDN QSY 118.675.
2018Z 141.550 GRIFFIN CP Andrews - JOSA 908 (C-21A) - pass t/off time of 2014Z to GSST(?) for us please.
2045Z 119.300 Potomac APP - TRACK 66 (C-21A) - 3000' for 2000' on the app to the vis. 1R @ ADW.

 

[TinEar]

I only had the radios on for a short time when I posted the last message. However, I just wanted to pop back to say there is a CAP going on in Maine while the President is there for the next few days. The first shift was flown by COSMIC F-16s from the NJ-ANG. The second shift has our old buddies, the PITTMAN F-16s from Shaw doing the duty. I mention that because they'll have to fly through this area on the way to/from the CAP and should be heard across the ZNY/ZDC freqs. PITTMAN 35/36 have the current CAP shift. If the PITTMAN pilots mention it, there are two adjacent areas for the CAP - MOOSE and LOBSTER are their names - similar to our GUARD DOG CAP in this area. KC-135s from various units will support them using the TANKER callsign (current is TANKER 21) so they may be heard also flying through the area depending on their home base.

 

[Mateo]

Some mini-logs from the past two afternoons:
Wednesday, the 23rd, at Dulles--
1719: -119.85 (Potomac App)- PACER 96 (C-21A) ELDEE -D> ADW
1830: -141.55 (GRIFFIN CP)- JOSA 328 (C-21A 84-0079) is 20mins out, A-1, no pax, 2 crew, gave the tail number.
1907: -119.85- SAM 0519 (C-20 in the white c/s seen), vectors for arrival
1913: -378.1 (SAM CP)- REACH 3114 (C-17A 03-3114 Jackson seen) 20 out, will need 80-90K lbs of fuel. Went over IAD at 1924.
1926: -141.55- JOSA 392 "tell the maintenence crew we're back a little early."
1930: -135.7 (IAD Clearance)- "Sorry, REACH 1071 (KC-135R 60-0313 McConnell seen), don't have anything for you yet."

And Thursday, the 24th, from Gravelly Point--
1644: -118.4 (ADW Tower)- VENUS 41 (C-40 01-0041) for landing
1644: -119.3 (Potomac App)- TRACK 66 vectors for ADW arrival
1647: -141.55- Reach 1, 6, uh, 1815 <static>. Can't trace the serial, and didn't hear anything else.
1656: -119.3- KUWAITI 001 heavy (744 9K-ADE seen) vectors for ADW arrival
1656: -141.55- REACH 366T calling over and over and over again
1703: -141.55- REACH 366T (C-17 seen) finally makes contact, 17 space req and 1 space A, A-1, will RON.
1726: -119.3- KUWAITI 008 (G-V 9K-AJE seen) arriving ADW. [ID from ACARS]
1739: -118.4- MARINE 371 with tower for landing
1745: -119.3- ARMY 10301 (UC-35 01-0301 seen) vectors for arrival
1751: -119.3- ARMY 1778 (C-37B 04-1778 seen) vectors for arrival
1752: -119.85- EVAC 91456 heavy (KC-135E 59-1456 McGuire seen) vectors for arrival
1825: -119.85- SUNNY 835 (C-12) with vectors from OJAAY for the arrival. To 119.3.
1844: -119.85- SAM 0566 (C-20 in the USA c/s seen) vectors for arrival. Was brought over DCA at 7K and descended to a right traffic pattern for 1R.
1844: -119.85- ARMY 329 arriving Davison. To 126.3.
1858: -118.95- ARMY 23329 (ah ha! so it was C-12 92-3329) radar contact.

 

[JackTV]

Got some A-10's on 34.75 FM A/A
Not sure where they are.

Jack

 

[TinEar]

That's a good freq for the A-10s from PA-ANG Willow Grove, Jack. Nice catch!

 

[ka3jjz]

Interesting about the Maine CAP TinEar - let's see if our New England boys can catch some of the same stuff we do when the CAP is flying out in Western Maryland.

73s and thanx...Mike

 

[carbineone]

0930 Flyers (a-10's) working the Warren grove range 283.1
0938 Flyers with ACY approach heading to W-107 327.125
0942 Flyers with GK 255.0
0946 Flyers with Steel 266.5 for refuelling
1024 Devil 11 with Mcguire approach 363.8

 

[CitationJet]

08/25/2006

1408Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - Controller here giving FURY 1 (F-16C/D 149th FS, VA ANG) a QSY to 319.1.
1426Z 141.550 GRIFFIN CP Andrews - JOSA 401 (C-21A) - off the deck @ 1419Z.
1428Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - BOXER 362 (201st AS DC ANG) - deps ADW QSY 121.05.
1429Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - PAT 1270 (C-12T 85-1270 OSACOM VA RFC Davison) - deps DAA dir CSN QSY 118.675.
1441Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - MARINE 974 (prob. UC-35) - deps ADW QSY 121.05.
1445Z 378.100 GRIFFIN CP Andrews - VENUS 91 (VC-25A 89th AW) - reports birdstrike above F/O's windscreen. Mentions HVQ (Charleston VORTAC).
1448Z 119.300 Potomac APP - VENUS 91 (VC-25A 89th AW) - @ 4800' for 3000' req. RNAV/GPS app to 1L sidestep to 1R full stop.

1515Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - PACER 96 (C-21A) deps ADW dir LDN QSY 118.675.
1517Z 335.500 Potomac APP - SCARY 1 (F-16C/D 121st FS DC ANG) - out of 11000' for 3000' QSY 349.0.
1520Z 349.000 Andrews AFB TWR - SCARY 1 (F-16C/D 121st FS DC ANG) - turns initial for 1R.

1737Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - PAT 871 () - deps DAA QSY 118.95.
1743Z 257.200 Potomac DEP - BULLY Flight (F-16C/D 121st FS DC ANG) - flight of two deps ADW dir JERES QSY 254.250.

1805Z 126.300 Davison AAF TWR - PAT 351 () - lands rwy 32.
1837Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - PAT 351 () - departs DAA rwy 32 dir FLUKY QSY 121.675.
1845Z 119.850 Potomac DEP - BOLAR 70 (C-5A 436th AW Dover) - 16000' for 12000' on the app to ADW.

1900Z 119.300 Potomac APP - BOXER 362 (201st AS DC ANG) - req. vis to 1R @ ADW.
1903Z 119.300 Potomac APP - SAM 31 () - req. ILS to 1R @ ADW then dir OTT.
1938Z 119.300 Potomac APP - VENUS 26 (C-20B 86-0206) - @ 11000' and reqeusting the NDB 1L circle to 1R.
1951Z 307.025 ZDC-Potomac - PITTMAN 55 (F-16C/D 79th FS Shaw) - FL260.
1952Z 378.100 SAM CP Andrews - TEAL 50 (WC-130J 53rd WRS Keesler) - t/off time ADW 1949Z pass to AFRC CP.

Currently having BNC connection trouble with my PRO-97 and the BC3000XLT is out of juice...8-(

2048Z 119.300 Potomac APP - ARMY 01052 (UC-35C 00-1052) - level at 12000'.
2058Z 119.300 Potomac APP - NAVY 101 (C-37A 01) - descending for the app to ADW.

 

[Dank]

King 77

I'm not amiliar with this callsign, but I just received the following message from the qth.net maillist. At the least I have an arrival to listen for.

Patrick AFB C-130 "King 77" departed Patrick moments ago. He is heading to
Andrews AFB. Using VHF ATC freqs:
133.75
132.65
124.80 so far.
Up with Ops on 321.0 as well

 

[md_p97]

Just watching the evening news....3000 members of the 113th DC ANG are being depoyed to Iraq....and they are taking their planes with them.

Paul

 

[Mark]

A couple visitors I heard today..

FAME 19 C-21 #84-0071 arrive Andrews 1445z enroute to KBED later.
I have that callsign as 45 AS/81 TRW KEESLER AFB MS.
Later had FAME 33 with Andrews dispatch 372.200.

RAT 69 KC-135R 196 ARS/163 ARW MARCH ARB CA with
Willow Grove ops 351.750 arrive Willow Grove at 2130z,req power cart.

Mark
Maryland

 

[Mateo]

1646: -119.3 (Potomac App)- N476LC (C550) with ADW arrival information. This belongs to L-3 communications and departed later on to POB (Pope AFB).
1657: -118.4- ARMY 01052 (UC-35 00-1052) arriving ADW
1658: -119.3- NAVY 101 (C-37 seen) vectors to arrive ADW. Flew a left pattern and landed 19L at 1708
1712: -118.95- NALO 289 (C-37 seen) departing, vectors for climb, and to 118.67. Callsign was pronounced Nay-low.
1716: -119.3- MARINE 974 (UC-35 seen) arrival vectors, to 118.4, and he "has the cable."
1720: -118.95- FAME 33 departing ADW. I had SAME/FRAME written, but it looks like splitting the difference was the winner!
1722: -118.95- HAWK 32 departing ADW.
1743: -119.85- MARINE 659 (UC-35 seen) depart AML heading 050 for ADW 19L
1756: -119.85- JOSA 401 depart ELDEE heading 050 for ADW 19L
1758: -349.4 (Dover CP)- REACH 122, self IDs as Dover C-5B 84-0061, is passing by, and wants the CP to call GACC and verify their dip clearance for Norway.
1801: -118.4- JOSA 862 on the approach for ADW 19L
1802: -118.4- JOSA 401 on the approach for ADW 19L
1805: -118.95- EVAC 116 heavy (C-17A 03-3116 Jackson) wants high speed under 10K for operational reasons. Departure: Well, how fast do you want? EVAC: 310 knots. Dep: Uh, no.
1809: -119.85- TALON 76 (something small and white seen) vectors to arrive ADW. To -335.5- and -349.0-

 

[JackTV]

141.6

Sounds like a couple of fighters are heading North up the coast.
Chit Chat is on 141.6 A/A
Talking about Atlantic City and otis on the 240 mile scope.

Jack

 

[nightwatch]

cap up?

pitman chatting on 141.6 260.9 with no joy from huntress,845pm

 

[ka3jjz]

Interesting; they were involved in the Maine CAP with you-know-who in Kennebunkport, and I see on Milcom that they're involved in a CAP over the Cape for the upcoming launch. Must be a busy month for them. 73s Mike

 

[nightwatch]

cap 138.15

138.15 lots of air to air from the cap pitman

 

[CitationJet]

08/28/2006

1302Z 118.850 Davison AAF GCA - PAT 1268 (C-12T 85-1268 OSACOM VA RFC Davison) - coord. app.
1311Z 126.300 Davison AAF TWR - NAVY 7C 221 (UC-12B NAS Oceana Norfolk Flt. Det.) - lands rwy 32.

1418Z 126.300 Davison AAF TWR - PAT 714 () - deps DAA rwy 32 QSY 118.95/121.05.
1447Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - COAST GUARD 102 (C-143A 02) - deps DCA dir FLUKY.

1500Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - AIR FORCE ONE (VC-25A 89th AW) - deps ADW QSY 121.675.
1506Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - SAM 94 () - deps ADW dir HAFNR.
1529Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - PAT 7104 (UC-35A 97-0104) - deps DAA QSY 121.675.
1531Z 118.400 Andrews AFB TWR - PAT 263 () - left base for rwy 1R.
1538Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - ARMY 21863 (C-37A 02-1863) - deps ADW to 15000' dir FLUKY to FL210 QSY 121.05.
1543Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - ARMY 01052 (UC-35C 00-1052) - deps ADW to FL210 dir HAFNR QSY 121.675.
1549Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - COAST GUARD 101 (C-37A 01) - deps DCA dir FLUKY to FL210 QSY 121.05.
1549Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - REACH 423T () - deps ADW dir FLUKY to FL210 QSY 121.675.

1711Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - REACH 9026 (C-5A 69-0026 68th AS AFRC) - deps ADW dir FLUKY QSY 121.05.

Another afternoon interrupted by meetings...

2034Z 126.300 Davison AAF TWR - PAT 1268 (C-12T 85-1268 OSACOM VA RFC Davison) - lands rwy 32.
2054Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - REACH 5140 (C-17A 05-5140 729th AS AFRC March) - deps ADW to 17000' dir LDN QSY 118.675.
2058Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - NAVY 7C 221 (UC-12B NAS Oceana Norfolk Flt. Det.) - deps rwy 32 @ DAA dir GRUBY QSY 126.4.

2105Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - JOSA 259 (C-21A) - deps ADW dir HAFNR to FL210 QSY 121.675.

 

[Mateo]

Over the weekend:
Saturday, August 26
1540ish: -124.8 (MDT Tower/Clearance/Ground)- JOSA 449 (C-21A 84-0091 seen) clearance to Wright-Patterson. Eventually with taxi and takeoff on the same freq, and handed to Harrisburg Dep.

Sunday, August 27
1432: -119.85 (Potomac App)- REACH 9026 (C-5 69-0026 Kelly seen) depart ELDEE 070 vectors ADW
1535: -119.3- EVAC 33114 (C-17A 03-3114 Jackson) has the field in sight
1542: -378.1 (ADW CP)- NAVY JS 178 scratchy, something about 2 pallets. Arrived 19L at 1552. (Should be a C-9 out of Atlanta)
1632: -119.85- REACH 0181 (C-17A 00-0181 McChord seen) depart ELDEE 070 vectors for ADW. On first call used 0181, then just 181 thereafter.
1634: -119.85- NAVY 907 (C-20 black/gold scheme seen) vectors for ADW
1706: -319.4 (McGuire CP)- missed the call, but he wants transportation for 5 crew, 3 pax, and a 2 person Viper team
1927: -378.1- JOSA 167 is inbound, A-2, and mission complete
--There was also a lot of faint, staticky traffic on 378.1 all afternoon, which very well could have been arrival messages and such for northeast feed traffic.