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[CitationJet]

Re: PPR

Hi Tin,

PPR=Prior Permission Required.

TRACKs are the AFFSA C-21As now based out of Will Rogers.

Tony

1559: TRACK 1 to Andrews...IDs as a C-21 Oklahoma City based...20 minutes out, need parking...mentions "PPR 0215R11" (no idea)...378.1

 

[CitationJet]

02.15.2007 (cont'd)

After a lengthy work-related interruption...8-(

2108Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - SAM 1161 - deps ADW 1500' for 3000' to 11000' dir HAFNR QSY 121.050.
2118Z 378.100 SAM CP Andrews - SAM 1161 - off time 2110Z (sic) ETB 2320Z.
2131Z 126.300 Davison AAF TWR - PAT 2402 (C-12T pm Davison shuttle) - 5 nms. to the S for landing rwy 32.
2134Z 126.300 Davison AAF TWR - ANVIS 21 (DHC-6 82-23836 NVESD Davison) - inbound for landing rwy 32.

Lost my sheet o' paper from the ride home, but caught BRS 2472 (C-130 FAB2472 BrAF) dep ADW to 17000' on 118.950 at around 2215Z.

 

[TinEar]

Hi Tin,

PPR=Prior Permission Required.

TRACKs are the AFFSA C-21As now based out of Will Rogers.

Tony

Tony, I know what a PPR is but the 0215R11 is what had me stumped. The 0215 is obviously the date but the R11 I'm unsure if it's a mission number, a flight plan number or some off-the-wall military form number. What say you?

Alan
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Info: I've been using cascading active multicouplers to feed my radios from one antenna and wondered if I was doing any damage or degrading performance by doing so. I have an antenna feeding into an 8-port Stridsberg active multicoupler. I use one of the outport ports to feed the input of another Stridsberg 4-port active multicoupler resulting in 11 ports to use for radios fed from that single antenna. So, I asked John Stridsberg who designed and built the multicouplers what my end results were. His answer follows:

No harm to the MCA204 in that configuration. The only issue when cascading units, specially active multicouplers, is the noise figure. The NF will increase some but not to the point that you will detect any deterioration of most received signals. What I understand from feed-back from the field, cascading couplers are quite common.
http://stridsberg.com/

I feel better now that I know I'm not causing myself a problem and am passing it along here in case others may use the same setup or are contemplating doing so.

 

[CitationJet]

Re: PPR #

Hi Tin,

I'm sorry about that, I misunderstood what you were asking when I read it quickly while at work.

I do not know for certain but R11 might be the PPR reservation number corresponding to PPR #11 for 02.15.2007?

Tony

Tony, I know what a PPR is but the 0215R11 is what had me stumped. The 0215 is obviously the date but the R11 I'm unsure if it's a mission number, a flight plan number or some off-the-wall military form number. What say you?

 

[Mark]

The Heavies are back moving again today after slow traffic the last couple days due to wx..

Royal Saudi AF 901 arrive Dover 1845z on CP 349.400,req
customs/immigration.

REACH 5151 C-17 15th AW Hawaii arrive Dover 1930z,offloads

REACH 7034 C-5 Travis wx divert Dover as Canada wx out of limits,req
120k fuel.

GUCCI 51 KC-10 Travis arrive McGuire 319.400 CP,55k on fuel req 60k
fuel.

GHOST 88 KC-10 #85-0028 arrive McGuire 2300z,"We departed as HOIST 94"
Must have made a round trip to Edwards AFB.

Mark

 

[barefootdipole]

Re: 140.075

There is surveillance activity on 140.075 following someone on a military base that does not sound like Ft. Meade from the descriptions being given. Very unusual freq for this type activity. I can hear it equally well in AM or FM mode although it probably should be FM. (Late add: It now sounds like it's at Andrews...talking about the Navy hangars.) And they are signing off at 1026. Last transmission was to "Hollywood." The signal pegged my strength meter (full six bars on Uniden) which almost makes it appear to be airborne surveillance since a ground based signal from Andrews shouldn't have been anywhere near that strong.

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Sorry for being so late to the game,like 6 months--HI HI--, but just wanted to add that 140.075 FM is the old NIS (Naval Investigative Service) CID undercover/surveillance ops freq that they used here at USMC Camp Lejeune years ago.....F Y I.

Barefootdipole

 

[CitationJet]

02.16.2007

1526Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - SAM 1117 - deps ADW to 17000' dir LDN QSY 118.675 then cleared to FL210.
1531Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - PAT 324 - off DAA 1500'-2000' then cleared to 5000'.
1532Z 125.650 Potomac DEP - EVAC 28530 - deps ADW Potomac asks if UHF rx on board, QSY to 257.200 then back to 125.650. Nothing else heard. Might have heard that callsign incorrectly and don't have time to search on it right now. Any help appreciated!

1831Z 125.650 Potomac DEP - NAVY 998 - deps ADW to 7000' QSY Patuxent APP 120.050.

1918Z 292.200 MUSSEL CTL - MUSSEL 07 and 08 have both been up here recently, this freq. added to my rotation as I search for a Pentagon TWR freq. confirmation.
1929Z 292.200 MUSSEL CTL - MUSSEL 07 reporting Ops Normal Davison.
1929Z 279.575 Potomac DEP - DRAGO 52 - up on this freq now.
1939Z 349.400 Dover AFB CP - ????? 70 - ETA 1955Z status A3 all else including callsign unreadable.
1942Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - AVALON 73 - QSY 118.675.
1948Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - NAVY JU 911 - deps ADW to 17000'.

2006Z 126.300 Davison AAF TWR - PAT 324 - lands rwy 32.
2007Z 257.200 Potomac DEP - GUNNY 1 - up here reporting climbing to FL200.
2011Z 284.700 ZDC-Montebello - GUNNY 1 - checking in again at FL200.

 

[TinEar]

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Sorry for being so late to the game,like 6 months--HI HI--, but just wanted to add that 140.075 FM is the old NIS (Naval Investigative Service) CID undercover/surveillance ops freq that they used here at USMC Camp Lejeune years ago.....F Y I.

Barefootdipole

Many thanks Barefootdipole. Late is better than never and you've probably hit upon exactly what I heard that day.

No time for logging so far today but...
1230-ish: WILD flight of two F-16s from Andrews on interflight 143.6 and SCARY flight of two on interflight 139.15 are on their way home from work up in Giant Killer's W-107 area. Taking the normal route home through ZDC and TRACON...now about 10 minutes out transmitting in-flight reports to SENATE SOF on 139.9.
Giant Killer 255.0 to ZDC-Casino 285.4 to Potomac TRACON (BWI) 317.425 to Potomac TRACON (Reagan) 270.275. Last stop will be Andrews Tower 349.0

 

[Whistler]

Not to break the momentum of the thread but other than Milaircomms are there any other sites that offer downloadable or live MilAir? Up here in Western MD we don't hear much just some Commerical stuff. Any good sites or audio archiving?

 

[trainman111]

0932: TACO 03 passing through 7,200 for FL300 direct to Fort Smith. <377.1>
1017-1044: Devil flight up doing some training in Vienna, MD. <138.875>
10:57 VENUS ?? calling SAM Command inbound, status A-2 for autopilot writeups. <378.1>

 

[freqhopping]

Just caught MONKEY-1 finishing up with INDIAN HOLE. 267.35 FM
Listen up for flights inbound to ADW, DAA or PAX soon. I really doubt the plane's callsign will be MONKEY-1.

 

[TinEar]

A few big birds flying around this evening...

1845: HOIST 91 (KC-10A McGuire) to McGuire CP with arrival message...319.4
1857: JOSA 151 to SAM Command at Andrews reporting departure at 2349Z...141.55

1907: BOXER 43 reports Andrews departure at 2354Z to Boxer Ops...314.25
1913: REACH 447 to Dover CP with arrival message and requesting upload info...349.4
1950: ROCK 61 (Probably C-130E 327TH AS AFRC, Willow Grove PA) calling Andrews Dispatch several times with no reply...372.2
1953-55: ROCK 61 calling Andrews Dispatch on the Navy Dispatch freq...386.6
1954: REACH 284 to Andrews with arrival message..wants someone to come and brief them on fuel, on where they're staying while here and what their mission is. Says they were sent here for a mission but they don't know what it is. He's got six crew members...378.1
1967: ROCK 61 calls Andrews Ground to say he hasn't been able to reach Dispatch...275.8

2004: HOIST 90 (KC-10A McGuire ) to McGuire CP with arrival message...319.4
2034: PAT 33 (helo) to Leesburg Radio on FSS...currently 7 miles southwest of Dover...left Dover with an ETA at Andrews in 30 minutes...currently IFR and wants to open a new VFR leg to his flight...can't hear Leesburg and says he'll call back in 5 minutes...255.4
2044: PAT 33 reports near Annapolis...expects to be at Andrews on the hour...wants to open a VFR leg from Andrews to Ft. McNair, destination Davison AAF (this time I can't hear Leesburg who is normally very loud and clear - must have switched his transmission to another antenna)...255.4

2126: REACH 0455 to Dover CP arriving A-3 due to under floor heat malfunctioning...349.4
2128: PAT 267 calling Davey Ops (Davison AAF)...reaches them on 3rd try...30 miles west, 10 minutes out, puts fuel on request for tail number 267...139.4
2133-34: PAT 267 calling Potomac Approach but still on 139.4

 

[ka3jjz]

Not to break the momentum of the thread but other than Milaircomms are there any other sites that offer downloadable or live MilAir? Up here in Western MD we don't hear much just some Commerical stuff. Any good sites or audio archiving?

Yup - Nightwatch's Teamspeak feeds - see our Wiki article at:

http://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/ScanMilair-DC

I also tried to get some freqs up on the Allegheny online scanner, but evidently it didn't happen - at least, they're not listed on their frequency listing page.

You should have more than enough milair stuff around you - the Hagerstown Washington ARTCC site is in your back yard, flights coming from West Virginia, Pennsylvania and Ohio, and of course when the Prez is in Camp David and a Combat Air Patrol is called. What freqs are you checking? 73s Mike

 

[trainman111]

2127: Just had an Army blackhawk helo fly over the house at treetop level. It was so low, it shook the dishes in the house. They've been coming and going all day from Richmond to I'm assuming Blackstone AAF since they're going west then coming back east. I would love to find current frequencies for the National Guard here at Richmond so I can listen to those guys. It's about 45 mins-1hr from the time they fly over the house going west, until the time they fly back over the house on their way to Richmond.

 

[TinEar]

2127: Just had an Army blackhawk helo fly over the house at treetop level. It was so low, it shook the dishes in the house. They've been coming and going all day from Richmond to I'm assuming Blackstone AAF since they're going west then coming back east. I would love to find current frequencies for the National Guard here at Richmond so I can listen to those guys. It's about 45 mins-1hr from the time they fly over the house going west, until the time they fly back over the house on their way to Richmond.

Try National Guard Common 242.4 and Guard interplane 246.8. Could be.
Or Blackstone AAF Tower freqs 126.2 and 241.0

 

[Mateo]

From earlier: 28530 doesn't come back to anything. xx-8530 matches only a UH-1, and #2-8### matches only C-130J 02-8155 and VC-25 82-8000. So, assuming that the 8 is the mis-heard digit, we get KC-135R 62-3530, last noted 6 weeks ago as a Grissom bird.

This afternoon from the asphalt-laced skating rink that is the Gravelly Point parking lot:
1650ish: -119.85- REACH 5145 (C-17A 05-5145 March seen) vectors for an approach to 1L at ADW. Went over the top of DCA before being turned south and handed off to 119.3 and then 118.4.
1737: -119.85- JOSA 151 (C-21 seen) vectors for the LOC 1L approach. He was turned south while still west of DCA, and handed off to 119.3 and 118.4. He called into the CP on 141.55, but was too weak to copy.
1751: -139.7- BLACKJACK 1 (2x USCG HH-65 seen) to HUNTRESS saying they'll be a flight of 2 for the next 15 minutes. They departed DCA to the NW.
And, aside from a couple of PATs working around DAA, this was all for the hour. BOXER 45 departed ADW sometime around 1820, but I was driving and not noting frequencies.
[UPDATE: Some IDs - BOXER 45 was C-40 02-0202, and BOXER 43 was C-40 02-0203. Both are DC ANG machines, and both arrived at RAF Mildenhall]

 

[trainman111]

Try National Guard Common 242.4 and Guard interplane 246.8. Could be.
Or Blackstone AAF Tower freqs 126.2 and 241.0

I'll plug those in. I would also like to find some good frequencies in use here at Richmond. I think I'm going to have to search for those. What band should I search for frequencies used at Richmond? VHF-Lo? You know Tin, it's funny you mention 126.200 as a Blackstone Tower frequency. I've got that programmed as a tower frequency at Norfolk NS. I'm going to have to listen to those comms. more closely to see if I can hear anything Blackstone related.

 

[TinEar]

I'll plug those in. I would also like to find some good frequencies in use here at Richmond. I think I'm going to have to search for those. What band should I search for frequencies used at Richmond? VHF-Lo? You know Tin, it's funny you mention 126.200 as a Blackstone Tower frequency. I've got that programmed as a tower frequency at Norfolk NS. I'm going to have to listen to those comms. more closely to see if I can hear anything Blackstone related.

I honestly don't know where you should look for those Richmond freqs Nick. I take it you mean for the helos but I just don't listen to enough of their stuff to have a good feel for them. The only thing I hear on a fairly consistent basis up here is on those two freqs I mentioned plus checking in with Phillips and Weide AAF. By the way, Weide uses the same freqs as Blackstone - 126.2/241.0 for Tower. Both Phillips and Weide have Ops freqs at 229.6 and 229.4 so perhaps Blackstone or Richmond will have an Ops freq in that same range.&#9834;
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0101: REACH 504 to Griffin Command at Andrews reports departure at 59 after the hour...378.1
0109: REACH 5008 to Dover Command Post...departed Miami, 25 pallets with 100,000 pounds of cargo, free cargo, 48 passengers going through, 25 seats available outbound, no D/Vs, need tall stairs, status A-1...349.4

 

[carbineone]

1128 Ascott 9135 with mcguire dispatch 372.2 Self id as RAF VC-10 due at MCGuire afb in 20 minutes
1156 Ascott 9135 with Mcguire approach 124.15

 

[JackTV]

Loud controllers voice on 317.425

Is anyone else picking up a loud (as far as modulation) controller on 317.425?
I heard him say contact Potomic app. on ????? so it sounds like he is local and not
skip or anything.Usually the controllers are not that loud up around my way.

Jack