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[jsoergel]

Speaking of SBS/RB logs finding rare visitors had this one today.

AE11E6 #78-0578 E-3C SHUCK80H level 34k 2009/09/03 13:03 local
Was logged over Turkey yesterday.Must be heading home to the barn.

You're right about that one; called Patterson Metro for Tinker weather at 2000Z. Actually an E-3B, reported position as 50 miles south, FL340.

Full logs for Patterson:
N92B (BE9L) - orbits, later flew back to KSHD
VADER 08 (C-130H, 89-9108) - asked Dispatch to call DSN 346-1069 and see if their second aircraft would be heading to Atterbury; called again later with return message to Youngstown
PAT 819 (unid)
SHUCK 80 (E-3B, 78-0578) - called Metro for weather at Tinker AFB; 50 mi south, FL340
PAT 173 (unid)
JOSA 433 (C-21A, 84-0140) - no pax, 3000 lbs of fuel, picking up 1 A5 and 1 A4
??? 98 (unid, flight of two or more)
FAST 16 (T-38A, unid) - departure only
ASCOT 2531 (unid) - called Metro for weather at McGuire and Dover - anyone see where this one went?
RHINO 23 (C-5A, unid) - to KBKL?
REACH 7039 (C-5A, unid) - A1 for landing

Enroute through Dayton, likely to KBKL for the SHOW:
N7476Y (PA-30) - flight of two, reported second aircraft as an experimental Pitts
NAVY 1E 135 (TH-57C, 162821) - heard this quickly before 1E 134...possibly a mistaken callsign
NAVY 1E 134 (TH-57C, 162820)
NAVY 1E 109 (TH-57C, 162671)
NAVY 1E 067 (TH-57C, 162031)
NAVY 1E 129 (TH-57C, 162815)
RHINO 23 (C-5A, unid)

 

[Mark]

A few early birds up this am..
0410 local TREND 71 flight of 8 so far looking for CACTI-21 out of McGuire.
CACTI 21 climbing up out of McGuire ZDC 127.700,too far away to show here.
CACTI 21 sw to ZDC 125.450 direct Rifle.
0420 TREND 71 A/A 140.150 and CACTI has ZDC instruct TREND to meet on 254.600
and they do.
0440 CACTI 21 reports broken tanker and TREND 71 flight of 8 reports they
are rtb Andrews on tower 118.400.
These are Texas ANG 149th F-16's who were supposed to go to Europe and work
with Czech Air Force.

Mark

 

[freqhopping]

TREND-75/76/77/78 flight is now also landing at ADW. 349.0
Just had Saudi Air Force HZ-101 land at Dulles.

 

[TinEar]

A few early birds up this am..
0410 local TREND 71 flight of 8 so far looking for CACTI-21 out of McGuire.
CACTI 21 climbing up out of McGuire ZDC 127.700,too far away to show here.
CACTI 21 sw to ZDC 125.450 direct Rifle.
0420 TREND 71 A/A 140.150 and CACTI has ZDC instruct TREND to meet on 254.600
and they do.
0440 CACTI 21 reports broken tanker and TREND 71 flight of 8 reports they
are rtb Andrews on tower 118.400.
These are Texas ANG 149th F-16's who were supposed to go to Europe and work
with Czech Air Force.

Mark

0414: CACTI 21 = KC-10A, 85-0027, 305th AMW McGuire

0552: HARASS 61/62 (F-15C, 71st FS Langley) take their places in the CAP and head to TEFLON 09 (KC-135T, 58-0045, 171st ARW PA-ANG Pittsburgh) for fuel.

 

[CitationJet]

Re: SBS logs/Forum

Hi Tin,

No suggestion was made to go to a Mode-S-only format here, only the comment Mark made that I responded to and which I gave my opinion on: that the content here lately has been leaning too far over to the SBS side of things...for my taste. That's just my opinion.

I enjoy the format that is usually presented here, that of supplementing voice intercepts with SBS data, but I, like, Mark, was voicing my concern not to let things here go the way of so many of the spotting/radio/gardening/you name it lists that have become overloaded with SBS logs.

Again, just my opinion and in no way should this be taken as a statement on homogenizing the content on the Forum.

Tony

Back to the discussion about SBS (or RB) reports....
First, let me say that I don't think anyone has suggested we go to a Mode-S only format here. At least I can't find where anyone has suggested that but, if I missed the post that did, please point me in the right direction so I can find it.

No, I don't want just Mode-S reports here. I want the voice logs and I want the interpretations of what you heard - but I also want the information provided by Mode-S to enhance the overall picture. I especially want the information that tells me what the flight I noted (whether on Mode-S or voice) was really doing when it reported in overhead this area.

My personal opinion of the value of Mode-S I can equate to someone that copies only police/fire voice transmissions but refuses to buy a digital capable scanner in this area. Yeah, you can get a few things and that's okay but you're sure missing the bulk of what's happening. I simply want as much information as possible so the use of every tool available is of benefit to me whether I can afford to own it or someone else owns it. Your information from whatever source is welcome and encouraged - whether it comes from a radio/scanner, Mode-S, your visit to an Air Force base or simply from reading other boards and relating the information to what was reported in this area.

But that's just me. I'm sure others don't care for all that and are satisfied with some other level of information and are perfectly content with just hearing a couple of military flights within range of their antenna. And that's fine. Everone is in the hobby for their own reasons and it doesn't need to be a homogenized outlook. It all counts and it is all welcome.

 

[jsoergel]

Propagation is good this morning - hearing Patterson Ground fairly well. Nothing flying besides the aero club (at least not yet).

??? 98 airborne at 1240Z. Sounds like JPAT but I doubt that's the callsign. Another aircraft taking off behind it. On course heading is 360.

I take that back, the JPAT callsign could be T-6As.

 

[CitationJet]

Re: Part 2 logs

Hi Ron,

Had this one as well, 25 mins. out, req. Customs and Ag., etc. Thought I heard REACH 2580 though as the callsign, but in any case this is actually Seymour Johnson AFRC CP not Pope.

Tony

1505- Reach 23580-w/Lighthouse Control (311.0-CP Pope AFB NC) & inbound msg.

 

[CitationJet]

09.03.2009

Just a brief window of monitoring time yesterday afternoon...along with the 311.000 intercept above, the following were heard:

1911Z 126.400 PT APP - PAT 2401 - @ 5K dir Harcum.
1915Z 141.550 - JOSA 117 - arr. msg
1916Z 350.250 - HARASS 51 - FL210 dir OTT VORTAC.
1919Z 118.400 - PAT 819 - off Andrews to 125.650 5K join V265 EMI QSY PT APP 128.700.
1921Z 128.350 - JOSA 117 - 15K-12K 1L at andrews.
1930Z 119.300 - FLGHTCHECK 55 - 3K-5K dir PALEO.

 

[jsoergel]

1919Z 118.400 - PAT 819 - off Andrews to 125.650 5K join V265 EMI QSY PT APP 128.700.

Had PAT 819 at Patterson, no ID on it though.

 

[mdmonitor]

Hi Ron,

Had this one as well, 25 mins. out, req. Customs and Ag., etc. Thought I heard REACH 2580 though as the callsign, but in any case this is actually Seymour Johnson AFRC CP not Pope.

Tony

Tony,

Thanks for the correction on the CP-- I knew that

The second time he added the "3" so I put it in---he may have just goofed up.

 

[TinEar]

0958: TEFLON 10 reporting 10 minutes out (from the CAP)...260.9
TEFLON 10 = KC-135R, 58-0107, 132nd ARS ME-ANG Bangor
1010: HARASS 63/64 check into the CAP, report nose cold, weapons safe...bullseye check 163/84...head for the tanker...260.9
HARASS flight is working Potomac TRACON on 322.3 this morning rather than 350.25
HARASS 63 = F-15C, FF 84-1021, 71st FS Langley
HARASS 64 = F-15C, FF 85-?106, 71st FS Langley

 

[CitationJet]

re: SJAFB CP and REACH 2580

Hi Ron,

Glad to help out! He was booming in too.

Tony

Tony,

Thanks for the correction on the CP-- I knew that

The second time he added the "3" so I put it in---he may have just goofed up.

 

[CitationJet]

09.04.2009 break

In the 1600Z-1625Z timeframe:

NAVY 375, DC 01, TITUS 52 on 119.300/118.400 for apps to Andrews.
PAT 7104 up with PT A/D 118.675 for Davison rwy 32.

 

[coronet]

A few early birds up this am..
0410 local TREND 71 flight of 8 so far looking for CACTI-21 out of McGuire.
CACTI 21 climbing up out of McGuire ZDC 127.700,too far away to show here.
CACTI 21 sw to ZDC 125.450 direct Rifle.
0420 TREND 71 A/A 140.150 and CACTI has ZDC instruct TREND to meet on 254.600
and they do.
0440 CACTI 21 reports broken tanker and TREND 71 flight of 8 reports they
are rtb Andrews on tower 118.400.
These are Texas ANG 149th F-16's who were supposed to go to Europe and work
with Czech Air Force.

Mark

Hi Mark and all,

CACTI 21 had an engine warning light on the number 3 engine and had to abort the mission.
CACTI 22 was airborne aswell and spent two hours flying approaches at Wheeler-Sack airport,
as no other (military) airport could handle them at this early time of the day .... he returned to
Pease ANGB around 1230z with 92.000 pounds of fuel remaining.

Another try tomorrow hopefully, hope this helps.


René.

 

[jsoergel]

1842Z 349.400 BUCKEYE CONTROL - REACH 219T (unid) calling, no response

1853Z 372.200 DISPATCH - reporting inbound, 2 pax, 1 pallet, A1, 10 souls on board

1858Z 126.900 TOWER - visual 23R full stop, report right base (probably a C-130)
1900Z 126.900 - right base gear down, cleared to land

 

[mdmonitor]

Coronet?

Guys,

In the late 1400-early 1500 hour have heard several short xmissions on 375.7 Coronet 31 C2. Can tell who it is yet. Anyone else hear these guys?

Listening more--- the xmissions are short, chopped off---sound like Have Quick in the clear. Maybe the Harrass guys in the CAP using their Have Quick system---the signals are L/C

 

[Mark]

Hi Mark and all,

CACTI 21 had an engine warning light on the number 3 engine and had to abort the mission.
CACTI 22 was airborne aswell and spent two hours flying approaches at Wheeler-Sack airport,
as no other (military) airport could handle them at this early time of the day .... he returned to
Pease ANGB around 1230z with 92.000 pounds of fuel remaining.
Another try tomorrow hopefully, hope this helps.

René.

Thanks Rene,That 4am departure time from Andrews though is a killer!
Will have to set alarm clock for them again..LOL

Notice log today here the Collings Foundation B-17,B-24 making
their way to Cape May NJ this morning according to schedule.
(A1F0AF) N224J B-24 1048 local last
(ACE83F) N93012 B-17 1056 local last.

After Cape May they will be all over New England for next Month
so Adrian and the gang up there should catch them.
Wings of Freedom Schedule - The Collings Foundation

Mark

 

[jsoergel]

Thanks Rene,That 4am departure time from Andrews though is a killer!
Will have to set alarm clock for them again..LOL

Notice log today here the Collings Foundation B-17,B-24 making
their way to Cape May NJ this morning according to schedule.
(A1F0AF) N224J B-24 1048 local last
(ACE83F) N93012 B-17 1056 local last.

After Cape May they will be all over New England for next Month
so Adrian and the gang up there should catch them.
Wings of Freedom Schedule - The Collings Foundation

Mark

TP-51C "Betty Jane" should be touring with them. (A25C5E) N251MX.

 

[Yocuz]

Heard Boxer 41? or 44? on ZDC Atlantic City (133.125am) being handed off to ZDC Sea Isle (127.7) heading to Andrews.

 

[mdmonitor]

Logs, 4 Sep

Typical S L O W Friday

ACY-Atlantic City NJ
ADW- Andrews AFB MD
BW- Bay Watch-NAS PAX Area Advisory Control
DAA- Davison AAF, Ft Belvoir VA
DCA- Reagan National Airport/CGAS Washington, Wash DC
DOV- Dover AFB DE
GK- Giantkiller (FACSFAC, Virginia Capes)
LFI- Langley AFB VA
MTN-Martin State Airport, Baltimore
NGTF-Northrop-Grumman Test Facility, Baltimore
NXX- Willow Grove JRB PA
PAX-NAS Patuxent River MD
PTC- Potomac Area TRACON
WRI-McGuire AFB NJ
ZBW-Boston ARTCC
ZDC- Washington ARTCC
ZNY- New York ARTCC

1. VHF/UHF: ((Times are EDT))

(( DC Guard Dog CAP active all day-- Harrass fighters (F-15s, 71st FS LFI) & Teflon ## (tanker support) on 260.9/322.3))

0758- N2 (Citation, FAA Hqs)-w/FAA Ops DCA (123.4) reporting depature for Memphis--"all is OK".
0822- Score 92 (KC-130J # 166473, VX-20 PAX)-check in w/ZDC Calvert (133.9)
0827- Blackjack 1 (HH-65C, CGAS Washington)-patterns at ADW & radio checks w/Huntress (139.7)
0830- Reach 221T-land at ADW.
0835- Harrass 61 (F-15, 71st FS LFI-CAP fighter) & Teflon 09-CAP tanker-KC-135T, 58-0045, 171st ARW PA-ANG Pittsburgh) w/PTC (322.3) reporting intermittent ELT signals at north end of the Guard Dog CAP.
0839- Score 13 (T-34, VX-20 PAX)-patterns at DOV (257.875)
1033- TP 17 (T-38C #70-1579, NTPS PAX)-w/PAX approach (348.0)
1137- DeeCee 01 (KC-135R, 756th ARS ADW)-patterns at ADW.
1138- SPAR 33-land at ADW.
1200- Navy 375 (C-37A # 166375, VR-1 ADW)-patterns at ADW then off to PAX area R4006. Also w/PAX approach (121.0)
1204- Lobo 158 (C-9B VMR-1, MCAS Cherry Point, NC-land at ADW.
1309- JOSA 138- w/ADW Dispatch (372.2) then w/Griffin CP (378.1) w/inbound msg.
1311- Reach 0177-land at DOV (132.425 & 126.35)
1323- AX 995 (C-130T # 164995, VR-53 ADW)-patterns at ADW.
1529- Pitt 07 (C-130 #8-0807 758th AS AFRC, PITTSBURGH PA)-w/Griffin CP (378.1) w/inbound msg.


Ron (mdmonitor1@verizon.net)
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