Sticky Thread For MilAir IV

[Mark]

Boy---the First Familiy was busy last night--Michelle in NY throwing out the first pitch---well not really---one of our servicemen actually threw the first pitch to Jeter.

And POTUS zippng into Dover. That was a nice gesture.

Silver Dollar really has me baffled. He was L/C at my location---at about the same levels as the controllers at BWI which is only 5 miles west of me. But he sounded like he definitely was military in his radio procedures. He appeared to be following Venus 7's progress and was aware that the ZDC controller on 127.7 was trying to contact Venus 7. His signal strength never varied so not sure if he was an aircraft or on the ground.

I only heard VENUS 7 side yesterday but he asked if Silver Dollar was
on the ground yet.

Last night left recorder set on Dover appch 132.425 before bed and logged these departing
Dover early this am.

0407 local Marine 1 climbing up then push 119.700 Pot appch low.
0421 JENNA 623 N254CX Cessna 750 same route and freq direct DCA.
0430 SAM 6016 C-40 # 01-0041 also to Pot 119.700

Mark

 

[freqhopping]

1904- RIPPER-11 ZDC-Calvert 281.4 to ???.55
1914- GREYHAWK-9 ZDC-Franklin 290.425 > App 126.4
1923- AERO flight checking in with ZDC-Snow Hill 236.825
1924- BICEP-11 at Pax 270.8. BICEPs will meet up with OPEC-48 AR on 288.0.
1928- AERO-21 returning to Atlantic City ZDC-Casino 285.4
1948- RIVER-13 ZDC-Calvert 281.4.
Just saw that two jets did a fly-by for the World Series.

 

[Tech792]

According to the media, it was suppose to be (4) FA-18 jets out of Oceana. They flew over Yankee Stadium at about 1945 local. I loaded up a bunch of Oceana A/A freqs and heard nothing. Also tried some searches of victor & uniform and nothing. Figured I would catch some A/A. I managed to catch some weak A/A on 140.175 but don't think this was releated...too weak.....no IDs though.
1934- OPEC 49 gear down for runway 6 McGuire 118.65
2038- TEAM 45 doing many touch & go's for training at McGuire on 118.65, now at 2110 departing for AR777
Pete

 

[bmlure]

(VHF)

2003hr: 141.550-Josa 305
2020hr: 141.550-Josa 557

 

[freqhopping]

Air Force-2 for the 19R ILS at ADW. 128.35

 

[CitationJet]

10.27-30.2009

Hi,

Again, limited monitoring time the past few days...

ADW = Andrews AFB
IAD = Washington/Dulles IAP
KNYG = MCAF Quantico
NHK = NAS Patuxent River
PT = Potomac TRACON
ZDC = Washington Center ARTCC

10.27.2009 pm

1815Z 128.350 PT APP - JOSA 137 - 12-11K for Andrews ILS rwy 1L.
1823Z 128.350 PT APP - JOSA 729 - QSY Andrews AFB TWR 118.400 14 nms. out ILS rwy 1L.
1845Z 119.850 PT APP - COAST GUARD 101 (C-37A 01 CGAS Washington) - 10K dir PISCA for DCA.
1845Z 119.850 PT APP - REACH 8084 (KC-135T 58-0084 171st ARW PA ANG) - 7K dir AML dir ADW.
1845Z 119.850 PT APP - PAT 818 - inbound DAA QSY Davison AAF TWR 126.300.

2034Z 118.400 Andrews AFB TWR - SAM 5868 - QSY PT DEP 118.950 2.2K-3K-9K.
2050Z 118.675 PT A/D - REACH 6011 (C-5B 86-0011 22nd AS) - dir POOCH on the ELDEE4 arr. into Andrews AFB.
2052Z 322.300 PT APP - FAST 51 (pres. T-38A 394th CTS/509th BW) - QSY PT APP 335.500.

2102Z 119.850 PT APP - RANGR 15 (KC-130T VMGR-234 NAS JRB Ft. Worth) - 8-6-4K QSY PT APP 119.300 for the ILS app. to rwy 1L at Andrews.
2105Z 118.950 PT DEP - PAT 818 - off Davison 1-2K.

10.28.2009

1824Z 119.850 PT APP - ENRGY 51 (Be200 N6451D DOE Andrews) - 8K for Andrews ILS 1L QSY PT APP 119.300.
1826Z 128.350 PT APP - VENUS 7 (C-20C 85-0050 99th AS) - to 3K for the ILS rwy 1L Andrews.
1827Z 119.850 PT APP - TITUS 01 (C-130T VR-53) - RNAV rwy 1L Andrews, later had gear trouble and did some flying around before resolving the issue (119.300/`118.400).
1830Z 125.650 PT DEP - PAT 697 - 2-3-4K later on 118.950.
1833Z 125.650 PT DEP - ARMY 1944 (C-37A 97-1944 PATD Andrews) - 1.5-3K-9K-17K QSY ZDC-Calvert 133.900.
1842Z 335.500 PT APP - SCARY 1/2 (F-16C/D 121st FS DC ANG) - TACAN 1L low app. chase close - SCARY 1 is full stop SCARY 2 is low app. QSY Andrews AFB TWR 349.000.
1844Z 241.000 BLUEGRASS Mt. Weather TWR - wkg MUSSEL 9 (UH-1N/S 1st HS) - gets current wx for landing.
1846Z 270.800 BayWatch Advisory - TESTER 10 (T-38C NTPS NAS Patuxent River) - cleared from 3.5 to FL340. Also BANGER 21 (F-16C/D 117th FS NJ ANG) up coordinating ACM work.
1848Z 260.900 PT HUNTRESS - SAM 5928 wkg RENEGADE (JADOC Bolling AFB) - 60 nms out from Andrews will coord. for sparkle test. Will advise if we can
see it. Still looking as of 1851Z.
1852Z 241.000 BLUEGRASS Mt. Weather TWR - wkg MUSSEL 9 (UH-1N/S 1st HS) - lands pad 4. TWR l/c here which is typical reception during disturbed wx condx.
1854Z 270.800 BayWatch Advisory - WEASEL 31 (F-16C/D 117th FS NJ ANG) - up req. circle to land and PAR at Pax then vects. back to ACY QSY NHK APP 305.200 then BayWatch 354.800.
BANGER 21 (F-16C/D 117th FS NJ ANG) also up on the freq.

10.29.2009

2238Z 118.400 Andrews AFB TWR - MARINE 123 - lands ILS rwy 1L.
2241Z 245.200 Davison AAF GRND/CLNC DEL - GUARD COPTER 16251 (UH-1V 70-16251 121st Med. Co. DC ArNG) - req. air taxi to rwy 32 for dep.
2242Z 119.850 PT APP - PAT 2404 (C-12T OSACOM VA RFC LFI-DAA Tidewater Shuttle) - 6K-4K Davison rwy 14.
2243Z 34.1000 Davison AAF Ops "DAVEY OPS" - GUARD 15012 (UH-1V 69-15012 121st Med. Co. DC ArNG) - confirming fp and dep rwy 32 QSY TWR 126.300 for departure.
2258Z 139.400 Davison AAF Ops "DAVEY OPS" - NAVY 7C 142 (UC-12B/M NAS Oceana NFD) - 20 mins. out with an O-3 on board.

2304Z 119.850 PT APP - NAVY 7C 142 (UC-12B/M NAS Oceana NFD) - to 8K dir AML VORTAC req. rwy 14 at Davison AAF.

10.30.2009 am

0952Z 133.650 ZDC-Blue Ridge - REACH 8053 (C-17A 98-0053 62nd AW) - just caught the callsign.
0959Z 134.100 Dover AFB CP - REACH 8053 (C-17A 98-0053 62nd AW) - arr. msg 30 out tail #98-0053.

 

[mdmonitor]

Mark,

1034- Unid acft (no call noted, prob 436th AMW C-5B) w/DOV CP (134.1) advising they will be doing SDS (??) for the nest couple of hours before they depart for Marietta GA. Marietta is the site of Lockeed C-5M modification work.

Maybe another DOV C-5 going down for C-5M Mods?

 

[Mark]

Mark,

1034- Unid acft (no call noted, prob 436th AMW C-5B) w/DOV CP (134.1) advising they will be doing SDS (??) for the nest couple of hours before they depart for Marietta GA. Marietta is the site of Lockeed C-5M modification work.

Maybe another DOV C-5 going down for C-5M Mods?

Ron I logged a C-5B #87-0028 around that time and callsign ROGUE 50
was your unid.Could be Lockheed doing work on Travis tail.
Heard ROGUE Travis C-5's before doing work at Dover..A lot closer
than Travis for their test work.
The next Dover C-5B getting C-5M work is #83-1285 due middle next year.
Also locally ...

1100am local #75-0125 Boeing E-4B level 29k callsign FIRM67
1130 HAWK 11A 104FW flight of 2 A/A 259.900 going home to Barnes.

Mark

 

[mdmonitor]

Silver Dollar

Mark,
Travis,

Either of you picking up and unid acft in the area---this morning have had Silver Dollar flying around in contact with Venus Control on 142.75. I've heard Venus 40 but I don't thimk that's Silver Dollar.

Sure would like to ident this guy.

 

[Mark]

Mark,
Travis,

Either of you picking up and unid acft in the area---this morning have had Silver Dollar flying around in contact with Venus Control on 142.75. I've heard Venus 40 but I don't thimk that's Silver Dollar.
Sure would like to ident this guy.

The only Venus I heard today was VENUS 26 C-20 #86-0206 inbound Andrews.
1445z-1525z had a DC UH-72 also up showing 72053 which assume is #07-02053.
1620z STEEL 85 KC-135 #59-1523 inbound Willow Grove for pax drop offs WG Navy Ops 306.800

Mark

 

[mdmonitor]

The only Venus I heard today was VENUS 26 C-20 #86-0206 inbound Andrews.
1445z-1525z had a DC UH-72 also up showing 72053 which assume is #07-02053.

Mark

Mark,

By any chance can you check your logs of a couple days ago when Silver Dollar was up your wa ywith 85-0050? Right now I have Venus 40 (VC-37 97-0400) working the patterns at ADW and I also have Silver Dollar calling Venus Control at the same time.

If you had him up your way a couple of days ago he could be Silver Dollar after all.

 

[freqhopping]

A little searching found this.

Code Name Listing - S
Silver Dollar- Three Air Force planes set aside as National Emergency Airborne Command Posts. At present the fleet consists of Boeing 707s, but the Air Force wants to switch to 747s.


So probably a little outdated now since there are 747s aka E-4B serving in that role, but I'm sure the designation stands.

 

[mdmonitor]

A little searching found this.

Code Name Listing - S
Silver Dollar- Three Air Force planes set aside as National Emergency Airborne Command Posts. At present the fleet consists of Boeing 707s, but the Air Force wants to switch to 747s.


So probably a little outdated now since there are 747s aka E-4B serving in that role, but I'm sure the designation stands.

Travis,

You could be right but the xmitter sure doesn't sound like a 747---more like a C-20/C-21.

 

[mdmonitor]

Mark,

1350- PAF 812 (Pakistani Air Force ???)-w/DOV CP (134.1)-land at DOV (132.425 & 125.9)--never did get his callsign clear enough to be sure. Did you hear him?

 

[freqhopping]

GREYHAWK-07 descending for Oceana. 370.925
BANGER-21 direct Atlantic City. ZDC-Snow Hill 236.825
1557- BANGER reporting three code-1s. 261.0
1602- Interflight comms on 143.6. Mentioned seeing a big antenna in the distance. Said they must be near WV, because it's the state flower. And they make some comments about porn.
1603- Unid flight on ZDC-Blackstone to ZDC-Dominion 377.1. Suffix may be "350". Descending to FL190.
1606- It's a DC ANG CAPITAL-81 flight of 4 on 143.6. Switch to AUX-1 139.9 for SENATE. Then to AUX-9.
1609- Unid with ZDC-Kenton 351.15 direct Sea Isle. Unid calling ADW Navy ops on 139.3.
1610- "350" to ZDC-Irons 132.95 17k for 15k
1612- MARINE-767 ZDC-Irons to PCT 128.35
1614- CAPITAL-81 with PCT 335.5
1624- Unid with ZDC-Marlinton descending from FL330. Reports OTT then ADW
1626- DC ANG interflight 143.15 is in use. Mention seeing Snowshoe (ski resort).
1627- It's CAPITAL-91 flight. Now heard ID with Marlinton.
1706- Flight of 2 at FL250 with ZDC-Montebello 284.7
1714- STINGER-1 flight of 2 ZDC-Montebello>Irons 360.85

 

[mdmonitor]

GREYHAWK-07 descending for Oceana. 370.925
BANGER-21 direct Atlantic City. ZDC-Snow Hill 236.825
1557- BANGER reporting three code-1s. 261.0
1602- Interflight comms on 143.6. Mentioned seeing a big antenna in the distance. Said they must be near WV, because it's the state flower. And they make some comments about porn.
1603- Unid flight on ZDC-Blackstone to ZDC-Dominion 377.1. Suffix may be "350". Descending to FL190.
1606- It's a DC ANG CAPITAL-81 flight of 4 on 143.6. Switch to AUX-1 139.9 for SENATE. Then to AUX-9.
1609- Unid with ZDC-Kenton 351.15 direct Sea Isle. Unid calling ADW Navy ops on 139.3.
1610- "350" to ZDC-Irons 132.95 17k for 15k
1612- MARINE-767 ZDC-Irons to PCT 128.35
1614- CAPITAL-81 with PCT 335.5
1624- Unid with ZDC-Marlinton descending from FL330. Reports OTT then ADW
1626- DC ANG interflight 143.15 is in use. Mention seeing Snowshoe (ski resort).
1627- It's CAPITAL-91 flight. Now heard ID with Marlinton.
1706- Flight of 2 at FL250 with ZDC-Montebello 284.7
1714- STINGER-1 flight of 2 ZDC-Montebello>Irons 360.85

Travis,

The "big antenna" in WVA has to be the US Navy installation at Sugar Grove WVA. They have a couple of huge satellite dishes there.

 

[mdmonitor]

Logs, 30 Oct

ACY-Atlantic City NJ
ADW- Andrews AFB MD
BW- Bay Watch-NAS PAX Area Advisory Control
DAA- Davison AAF, Ft Belvoir VA
DCA- Reagan National Airport/CGAS Washington, Wash DC
DOV- Dover AFB DE
GK- Giantkiller (FACSFAC, Virginia Capes)
LFI- Langley AFB VA
MTN-Martin State Airport, Baltimore
NGTF-Northrop-Grumman Test Facility, Baltimore
NXX- Willow Grove JRB PA
PAX-NAS Patuxent River MD
PTC- Potomac Area TRACON
WRI-McGuire AFB NJ
ZBW-Boston ARTCC
ZDC- Washington ARTCC
ZNY- New York ARTCC

1. VHF/UHF: ((Times are EDT))

0805- 7A501 (UC-012, Base Flt PAX)-land at PAX (120.05 & 135.025)
0807- Crab 54 (C-130J # 97-1354, 135th AS MD ANG MTN)-w/Crab Ops (384.1) w/departure msg.
0814- Reach 330-w/NAS Chambers Ops (349.5) w/inbound msg--14 pax plus cargo. Require special handling.
0830- Coach flt (F-22s, LFI)-ACM training on W386 common freq (312.3).
0841- Hoist 61 (KC-10A 2/32nd ARS, McGuire AFB NJ)-check in on AR 636 primary (238.9)
0935- N612W (BAC-1-11,NGTF) & N168W (Sabreliner, NGTF)-w/PAX approach (127.95) & on Northrop discrete (123.225). Also working w/BW (270.8) & Echo Control (262.95) & ZDC Cape Charles (132.55)
0942- EGY 1121 (C-130, Egyptian Air Force)-w/DOV approach (132.425) for landing at DOV.
0955- Venus 26 (C-20B $ 86-0206, 99th AS ADW)-w/Griffin CP (378.1)--wants SAM-4 (unid) to meet them when they park.
1012- Colt flt (2 X A-10Cs, 104th FS MD ANG MTN)-w/Raven Ops (347.2) w/departure msg & wx PIREP. Also w/ZNY Lancaster (239.05) & ZNY Philipsburg (338.3). Return to MTN at 1200. Another sortie in
the mid-1500 hour.
1017- Nighthawk 11 (CH-47, HMX-1 MCAF Quantico VA)-check in w/ADW tower (118.4) for airfield transition then w/Wash Helo (134.35)
1022- Team 50 (KC-10A 305th AMW MCGUIRE AFB NJ)-check in to AR 636 (118.125) for AAR w/Togo 99 (C-17A, 517th AS/3rd WNG, Elmendorf AFB AK). Also on tanker A-A (139.875)
1030- Silver Dollar (unid ADW)-on SAM discrete (142.75) calling Venus asking if they are as fragged.
1034- Unid acft (no call noted)-w/DOV CP (134.1) advising they will be doing SDS (??) for the next couple of hours before they depart for Marietta GA. Marietta is the site of Lockeed C-5M modification work.
1042- Roman 55 (F-18C VFA-106, NAS OCEANA VA)-w/ZDC Montebello (284.7) & ZDC Azalea (263.1)
1046- Guard 053 (id as helo)-w/DOV approach (132.425)
1049- Two unid acft (no calls noted)-on AR 608 primary (343.5)
1051- Navy 7A326 (UC-12, Base Flt PAX)-w/PAX approach (120.05)
1125- Hawk 11Alpha (2 X F-15C 104FW Westfield-Barnes ANGB MA)-w/ZDC Woodstowne (363.0)
1133- Guard 639 (UH-1/UH-60, MD ArNG Weide AAF)-local work at Phillips AAF (126.15)
1137- Raven 1 flt (2 X A-10Cs, 104th FS MD ANG MTN)-land at MTN (297.2)
1140- Venus 40 (VC-37 # 97-0400, 99th AS ADW)-patterns at ADW. At 1454 picks up IFR clearance to Roanoke VA. Returns to ADW at 1705.
1330- Open Skies 12T (OC-135,NATO compliance a/c, 24th Recon, Offutt AFB NE)-land at ADW.
1350- PAF 812 (Pakistani Air Force ???)-w/DOV CP (134.1)-land at DOV (132.425 & 125.9)
1352- Venus 31 (C-40 # 01-0041, 99th AS ADW)-w/Griffin CP (378.1) w/inbound msg.
1356- Navy JR227 (C-20G, VR-48 ADW)-land at ADW.
1357- Navy TP848 (unid, NTPS PAX)-w/PAX approach (135.025)
1400- Crab 53 (C-130J # 97-1353, 135th AS MD ANG MTN)-w/ZDC Calvert (133.9)
1407- Marine 714 (UC-35, MAW-4 ADW)-land at ADW.
1408- Steel 85 (KC-135R 147th ARS, PA ANG Pittsburgh PA)-w/Steel Control (311.0) w/inbound msg reporting " completion of another outstanding mission."
1410- Score 53 (KC-130, VX-20 PAX)-w/PAX approach (120.05)
1422- Unid (no call noted)-w/Millville Radio (255.4)-position is 100 nms northeast of Sea Isle & w/request for wx at Cherry Point NC.
1430- Tester 13 (T-38C # 15-8201, NTPS PAX)-w/BW (270.8). Another sortie in the late 1700 hour.
1431- Convoy 9256 (US Navy C-9)-check in w/ZDC Cape Charles (132.55).
1453- Tester 12 (T-38C # 15-9200 NTPS PAX)-w/BW (270.8)
1455- Devil 11 flt (F-16s, 119th FS NJ ANG ACY)-w/ZNY Lancaster (323.3) then w/ZNY Phillipsburg (306.2) & ZOB Altoona (307.325) for entry into Duke MOA & then RTB ACY. Also on sqdn freq (138.2)
1459- Banger 21 flt (3 X F-16s, 119th FS NJ ANG ACY)-check in w/BW (354.8) for use of restricted area for 45 mins from FL3.5 down to the surface. Also w/ZDC Casino (285.4) & w/Devil Ops (261.0)
1514- Cade 71 (sounds like)-w/ZDC Snow Hill (236.825) for permission for one approach at NHZ (unid) then RTB Bradley ANGB CT.
1531- N360TL (Britten-Islander NGTF)-working on Northrop discrete (123.225)
1536- Venus 23 (C-20B # 86-0203, 99th AS ADW)-depart ADW then check in w/ZDC Calvert (133.9)
1540- Tester 08 (T-38C NTPS PAX)-w/BW (270.8)
1544- Navy 400- land at ADW.
1550- Reach 1010-w/DOV Metro (342.0) w/request for wx at St Johns, Newfoundland.
1607- Capitol 81 (2 X F-16s, 121st FS DC ANG ADW)-w/121st SOF (139.9) & w/Capitol Control (139.7) w/inbound status reports. 139.7 was ident as Aux 9. Also on sqdn freq (143.6)
1610- Nighthawk ?? (number missed-ident as single CH-46, HMX-1 MCAF Quantico VA)-transition through ADW airspace.
1615- Marine 767 (UC-35 # 166767, MAW-4 ADW)-land at ADW.
1617- Army 053 (UC-35 # 00-1053, OSACOM ADW)-land at ADW.
1620- Evac 33115 (C-17, 183rd AS MS ANG Jackson MS)-land at ADW.
1644- Capitol 91 flt (2 X F-16s, 121st FS DC ANG ADW)- land at ADW. Also on sqdn freq (143.15)
1446- Titus 52 (C-130T, VR-53 ADW)-land at ADW.
1701- SAM 5938 (99th AS ADW)-depart ADW.
1715- Ocean 64 ( C-130J 115TH AS CA ANG NAS PT MUGU CA)-w/Griffin CP (378.1) w/inbound msg. Has 65 pax to offload.
1721- Navy 7C319 (UC-12, Base Flt NAS Chambers VA)-land at ADW. Departs ADW at 1740.


Ron (mdmonitor1@verizon.net)
Baltimore MD (390747N 763711W)
VHF/UHF: BC-895XLT/RS Pro-2045
Diamond D-130J discone
HF: Icom R75
45-ft EF-SWL

 

[Mark]

Mark,

1350- PAF 812 (Pakistani Air Force ???)-w/DOV CP (134.1)-land at DOV (132.425 & 125.9)--never did get his callsign clear enough to be sure. Did you hear him?

Rgr Ron logged him on tape and box.callsign was
PAAF-812 inbound Dover,talks fast but on tape repeat he added
the extra A. Papa alpha alpha Foxtrot or he studders.
Unknown on box as nobody at first search has this one.(764841)
I'll put the word out and maybe someone will tie it up.
When he got parking spot he called himself 4812 so maybe a clue.

Another odd visitor to Dover early yesterday and departed tonight 2330z eastbound was
AME-1001 (3431C6) A-330 MRTT Airbus A-322 (Multi Role Tanker Transport)
tail EC-333 but eventually will be A39-002 for the RAAF.
Came in from Brisbane Australia yesterday so crew rested for over 24 hours.
This is new Tanker transport EADS-CASA hence EC-333 test is working up for RAAF.
Also the Spanish mode s test (3431C6) and pilot had Spanish accent yet
officer with Dover CP 134.100 had Aussie accent.
Must be enroute Spain or France Airbus factory.
Here are pics of it a couple weeks ago in Brisbane still in primer paint,I hope.
RAAF EC-333 Refueler at Brisbane International-2& on Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Mark

 

[w9ofa]

The antenna could also have been the Green Bank radio telescope complex in WV:

NRAO Green Bank Home Page

Travis,

The "big antenna" in WVA has to be the US Navy installation at Sugar Grove WVA. They have a couple of huge satellite dishes there.

 

[mdmonitor]

Rgr Ron logged him on tape and box.callsign was
PAAF-812 inbound Dover,talks fast but on tape repeat he added
the extra A. Papa alpha alpha Foxtrot or he studders.
Unknown on box as nobody at first search has this one.(764841)
I'll put the word out and maybe someone will tie it up.
When he got parking spot he called himself 4812 so maybe a clue.

Another odd visitor to Dover early yesterday and departed tonight 2330z eastbound was
AME-1001 (3431C6) A-330 MRTT Airbus A-322 (Multi Role Tanker Transport)
tail EC-333 but eventually will be A39-002 for the RAAF.
Came in from Brisbane Australia yesterday so crew rested for over 24 hours.
This is new Tanker transport EADS-CASA hence EC-333 test is working up for RAAF.
Also the Spanish mode s test (3431C6) and pilot had Spanish accent yet
officer with Dover CP 134.100 had Aussie accent.
Must be enroute Spain or France Airbus factory.
Here are pics of it a couple weeks ago in Brisbane still in primer paint,I hope.
RAAF EC-333 Refueler at Brisbane International-2& on Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Mark

Mark,

Thanks for the feedback on the PAAF guy.

Nice catch on the RAAF acft