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[JohnFB]

Should be C-21A 84-0124 ...

.... FWIW, I believe this is the "first" C-21A for the 103AW @ Bradley, CT [and the first to receive the "Flying Yankees" paint scheme]. Interesting that it would be flying under DILLON callsign.


REF Tin below:

tnx for that info on 84-0124 and [seeing that I missed the earlier discussion] also 84-0103. Both did come from Peterson .......... legacy databases & systems always seem to linger and linger ...........

 

[TinEar]

.... FWIW, I believe this is the "first" C-21A for the 103AW @ Bradley, CT [and the first to receive the "Flying Yankees" paint scheme]. Interesting that it would be flying under DILLON callsign.

John, he's been showing that DILLON callsign for damn near ever - at least the past two years. I think one of his two Mode-S boxes must be programmed with that one since he seems to alternate it with whatever current YANKEE callsign is assigned.

 

[Mark]

1030 Hearing ARCO 73 flt of 2 and ARCO 83 flight of 2 working GK 238.100,249.800.
Some weak A/A coms on 276.675 which I have as Mountain Home F-15's.

Radar box network and all related airnavsystem web pages down today..Uh oh.

Mark

 

[SCPD]

Tin Ear Who is Eagle One incoming to andrews last night about 9.00 est, was that a obama flight? Tnx

 

[CitationJet]

Re: EAGLE ONE

Hi Bob,

EAGLE 1 = US Park Police surveillance helo which provides motorcade cover for VIPs.

Best regards,

Tony

Tin Ear Who is Eagle One incoming to andrews last night about 9.00 est, was that a obama flight? Tnx

 

[TinEar]

1250: E-6B, 164388, VQ-4 off the deck from Patuxent.
1254-55: ANALYTIC calling APPLAUSE a couple of times and then makes contact to report, "Off the deck at this time. ANALYTIC out."...311.0
ANALYTIC is the back end callsign of 164388.

At the same time, a SCARY flight of F-16s (DC-ANG) off the deck from ADW...348.725 (TRACON/ADW), 317.425 (TRACON/BWI), 360.7 (ZDC-Swann), 254.3 (ZDC-Coyle), 281.45 (ZDC-Sea Isle). 255.0 (Giant Killer W-107 at 1309 for Event A-0502, MARSA with WILD)
143.6 interflight freq for SCARY
A WILD flight was ahead of the SCARY flight and checks into W-107 for the next 45 minutes with Giant Killer on 255.0 at 1304. Changes to 312.3 to monitor GK. Request to work 337.225.
139.15 interflight freq for WILD
1310: WILD mentions ramp freeze time has been changed to 1700...139.15
The following two ramp freezes were posted for Andrews:
AIR TERMINAL RAMP FREEZE. 05 JAN 22:45 2009 UNTIL 05 JAN 23:15 2009. CREATED: 05 JAN 17:26 2009
AIR TERMINAL RAMP FREEZE. 05 JAN 18:25 2009 UNTIL 05 JAN 18:55 2009. CREATED: 05 JAN 13:24 2009

This NOTAM also posted for Andrews:
BASE OPERATIONS FREQUENCY NOT AVAILABLE 139.3/372.2. 03 JAN 11:19 2009 UNTIL 06 JAN 23:59 2009.

1313: There's another SCARY aircraft -2- with TRACON/ADW lifting off from Andrews...348.725
1316: SCARY 2 over to TRACON/BWI...checks in at 11K, cleared to 14K...handed to ZDC...317.425
1317: SCARY 2 to ZDC-Swann and cleared to FL 190...360.7
1317: OPEC 13 (KC-10A, 87-0123, 305th AMW McGuire) to McGuire CP...319.4
1319: SCARY 2 to ZDC-Coyle and checks in at FL 190...254.3
1319: BOXER 07 (C-38A, 94-1569, 201st AS Andrews) departed ADW about 1310 and has been working around Dover for pattern work...132.425
1322: SCARY 2 to ZDC-Sea Isle, cheacks in at FL 190...cleared to FL 210...281.45
1324: SCARY 2 to Giant Killer and checks in at FL 210
1332: TEAM 10 (KC-10A, 84-0190, 305th AMW McGuire) with arrival msg to McGuire CP...319.4
1335: BOXER 42 (C-40C, 02-0202, 201st AS Andrews) w/ADW Twr for landing runway 1R...118.4
1335: BLUE 87 (KC-10A, 86-0028, 305th AMW McGuire) in the area at FL 190.
1337: WHIM 57 (E-4B, 73-1677, 1st ACCS) in the area. (He was BOLES 76 on 2 Jan)
1340: E-6B, 164404, VQ4 off the deck at Patuxent, climbing and heading northwest.
1350: Sukhoi SU-26M flying in the area (N309SU, CMAV Ventures, Ltd) (Hex A34264 for you Mode-S'ers)

That's all for now. Back later.

Ref Below: Ron, I heard it as WHIM and he also displayed WHIM 57 in his Mode-S callsign block.

 

[mdmonitor]

1250: E-6B, 164388, VQ-4 off the deck from Patuxent.
1254-55: ANALYTIC calling APPLAUSE a couple of times and then makes contact to report, "Off the deck at this time. ANALYTIC out."...311.0
ANALYTIC is the back end callsign of 164388.

At the same time, a SCARY flight of F-16s (DC-ANG) off the deck from ADW...348.725 (TRACON/ADW), 317.425 (TRACON/BWI), 360.7 (ZDC-Swann), 254.3 (ZDC-Coyle), 281.45 (ZDC-Sea Isle). 255.0 (Giant Killer W-107 at 1309 for Event A-0502, MARSA with WILD)
143.6 interflight freq for SCARY
A WILD flight was ahead of the SCARY flight and checks into W-107 for the next 45 minutes with Giant Killer on 255.0 at 1304. Changes to 312.3 to monitor GK. Request to work 337.225.
139.15 interflight freq for WILD
1310: WILD mentions ramp freeze time has been changed to 1700Z...139.15
The following two ramp freezes were posted for Andrews:
AIR TERMINAL RAMP FREEZE. 05 JAN 22:45 2009 UNTIL 05 JAN 23:15 2009. CREATED: 05 JAN 17:26 2009
AIR TERMINAL RAMP FREEZE. 05 JAN 18:25 2009 UNTIL 05 JAN 18:55 2009. CREATED: 05 JAN 13:24 2009

Theis NOTAM also posted for Andrews:
BASE OPERATIONS FREQUENCY NOT AVAILABLE 139.3/372.2. 03 JAN 11:19 2009 UNTIL 06 JAN 23:59 2009.

1313: There's another SCARY aircraft -2- with TRACON/ADW lifting off from Andrews...348.725
1316: SCARY 2 over to TRACON/BWI...checks in at 11K, cleared to 14K...handed to ZDC...317.425
1317: SCARY 2 to ZDC-Swann and cleared to FL 190...360.7
1317: OPEC 13 (KC-10A, 87-0123, 305th AMW McGuire) to McGuire CP...319.4
1319: SCARY 2 to ZDC-Coyle and checks in at FL 190...254.3
1319: BOXER 07 (C-38A, 94-1569, 201st AS Andrews) departed ADW about 1310 and has been working around Dover for pattern work...132.425
1322: SCARY 2 to ZDC-Sea Isle, cheacks in at FL 190...cleared to FL 210...281.45
1324: SCARY 2 to Giant Killer and checks in at FL 210
1332: TEAM 10 (KC-10A, 84-0190, 305th AMW McGuire) with arrival msg to McGuire CP...319.4
1335: BOXER 42 (C-40C, 02-0202, 201st AS Andrews) w/ADW Twr for landing runway 1R...118.4
1335: BLUE 87 (KC-10A, 86-0028, 305th AMW McGuire) in the area at FL 190.
1337: WHIM 57 (E-4B, 73-1677, 1st ACCS) in the area.

Tin,

I heard several times on the way in to ADW & and he said SWIM 57--clearly.

RE Swim/WHIM--OK---- I defer to a better set of ears and the "magic" box

 

[TinEar]

Ron, I picked up the same E-4B at 1538 departing Andrews and this speaker sure as hell sounds like he's saying SWIM 68 on the outbound. It's very clear too. I only heard him once earlier and he said (I thought) "This is WHIM"....I thought the S in 'is' ran together with the WHIM which made it sound like SWIM - especially since he was displaying WHIM. Now, however, it's clearly SWIM. He just changed from TRACON 118.95 to ZDC-Linden 133.55 at 1545. Your old ears aren't as bad as you thought they were.
Oh, and he's still displaying WHIM 57 on his transponder but clearly calling controllers as SWIM 68.

1549: AF 1 (VC-25A, 82-8000) off from Andrews and climbing. (at least I think he's climbing. I haven't seen his altitude change yet. No radio, just Mode-S hit) <-- no pun intended
Nope, not climbing...appears to just be working around the airfield...altitude just changed from 1450 to 1375 feet so may be a VENUS flight.
Okay...got him...it's VENUS 01 but displaying AF1...he's with ADW Twr on 118.4 asking about bleedover on this freq. He's doing some pattern work using runway 1R.
1549: There's also a SPAR 30 (C-37A, 01-0030, 310th AS) climbing out fm ADW. (Ahead of AF1)...118.95
1606: VENUS 01 tells ADW Tower he's receiving New York on this freq and he guesses there's nothing can be done about it....118.4
1611: VENUS 01 reports, "Right base, gear down, option on 1-Right."...118.4
1631: VENUS 01 still making those clockwise circles around ADW...118.4
1635: VENUS 01 asking Tower if he has any idea when the west runway (1L) will be open...118.4
Meanwhile, some JOSAs in and out:
JOSA039 84-0140
JOSA103 84-0098
JOSA113 84-0095
1642: VENUS 01 says he's going to do two more approaches and then a full stop...wants to make sure the barrier is down...118.4
1643: DECEE 12 (KC-135R, 62-3543) on the way home to Andrews
1644: DECEE 11 (59-1469) not far behind.
1647: BATON 73 (EC-130J, 96-8153, 193rd SOS PA-ANG Harrisburg) working at Phillips AAF for some work on runway 22...126.15
1648: DECEE 12 w/ADW Twr for landing runway 1R...118.4
1653: VENUS 01 reports he's doing a "restricted low approach, offset to the right"..." 1-Right, cleared the option, gear down"...118.4
1655: DC 12 and then 11 are both doing approaches, switching back and forth from Tower 118.4 and Approach 128.35.

 

[freqhopping]

I just felt the thumping of a UH-1. MUSSELL-7 just turned on to helo Rt9. Rather odd place for him to do so. Lower than usual too.

 

[mdmonitor]

Ron, I picked up the same E-4B at 1538 departing Andrews and this speaker sure as hell sounds like he's saying SWIM 68 on the outbound. It's very clear too. I only heard him once earlier and he said (I thought) "This is WHIM"....I thought the S in 'is' ran together with the WHIM which made it sound like SWIM - especially since he was displaying WHIM. Now, however, it's clearly SWIM. He just changed from TRACON 118.95 to ZDC-Linden 133.55 at 1545. Your old ears aren't as bad as you thought they were.
Oh, and he's still displaying WHIM 57 on his transponder but clearly calling controllers as SWIM 68.

1549: AF 1 (VC-25A, 82-8000) off from Andrews and climbing. (at least I think he's climbing. I haven't seen his altitude change yet. No radio, just Mode-S hit) <-- no pun intended
Nope, not climbing...appears to just be working around the airfield...altitude just changed from 1450 to 1375 feet so may be a VENUS flight.
Okay...got him...it's VENUS 01 but displaying AF1...he's with ADW Twr on 118.4 asking about bleedover on this freq. He's doing some pattern work using runway 1R.
1549: There's also a SPAR 30 (C-37A, 01-0030, 310th AS) climbing out fm ADW. (Ahead of AF1)...118.95
1606: VENUS 01 tells ADW Tower he's receiving New York on this freq and he guesses there's nothing can be done about it....118.4
1611: VENUS 01 reports, "Right base, gear down, option on 1-Right."...118.4

Tin,

Maybe Obama's new pilot/crew getting familiar witrh the acft & the local areas.

 

[TinEar]

Tin,

Maybe Obama's new pilot/crew getting familiar witrh the acft & the local areas.

Perhaps. I would think though that Colonel Turner has had plenty of practice in the right seat on AF1 and probably some time on the left too during the long flights.

 

[mdmonitor]

New Local freqs

Guys,

Following was just posted on the Scan DC list:

From the FAA NACO VFR Chart change list:

15 Jan 2009 Delete AAI heliport, 39°288109N, 76°388259W.

Change RONALD REAGAN WASHINGTON NATIONAL ATCT HELICOPTER freq from
120.75 to
134.35.

Add WASHINGTON DULLES INTL ATCT freq 120.25 (RWY 01C/19C), 30°568519N,
77°278369W.

 

[TinEar]

Guys,

Following was just posted on the Scan DC list:

From the FAA NACO VFR Chart change list:

15 Jan 2009 Delete AAI heliport, 39°288109N, 76°388259W.

Change RONALD REAGAN WASHINGTON NATIONAL ATCT HELICOPTER freq from
120.75 to
134.35.

Add WASHINGTON DULLES INTL ATCT freq 120.25 (RWY 01C/19C), 30°568519N,
77°278369W.

Ron, those have both been posted here previously. The IAD freq is already used and the DCA Helo freq goes into effect 15 January as you noted.

 

[mdmonitor]

Baton 73

Tin,

At 1643 hearing Baton 73 working the pattern at Phillips AAF. Infrequent visitor to our area.

 

[mdmonitor]

Ron, those have both been posted here previously. The IAD freq is already used and the DCA Helo freq goes into effect 15 January as you noted.

Tin,

I apologize. The DCA freq was new to me and I don't follow the freqs at IAD so wasn't aware that they had been posted.

 

[TinEar]

Tin,

I apologize. The DCA freq was new to me and I don't follow the freqs at IAD so wasn't aware that they had been posted.

Nahh...it's a good reminder. Glad you posted them again. I only mentioned it to indicate Scan-DC has nothing on us.

Hmmm...I should continue my log here I guess since I'm scrolling up a dozen messages to add items. Better still....think I'm done for now.

 

[CitationJet]

01.05.2009 pm

Hi,

A few from sporadic listening throughout the afternoon:

1900Z 119.850 PT APP - PAT 01 - 6000'-4000' inbound for Davison.

2003Z 118.400 Andrews AFB TWR - SPAR 30 - for rwy 1R.
2042Z 118.950 PT DEP - SWIM 68 - to 17000' join J149 QSY ZDC-Linden 133.550 12000'-17000' cleared to FL270. "Do you have any restrictions on speed? We don't want to plow over anybody..." LOL!
2050Z 118.950 PT DEP - SPAR 30 - departing Andrews.

2103Z 125.650 PT DEP - JOSA 113 - QSY ZDC-Calvert 133.900 17000 to FL190.
2135Z 118.400 Andrews AFB TWR - VENUS 01 - in the pattern.
2142Z 128.350 PT APP - DC 11 and DC 12 - in the pattern @ Andrews rwy 1R option.
2148Z 118.950 PT DEP - MARINE 374 - to 11000' dir HAFNR.
2155Z 335.500 PT APP - TULSA 91 - to 16000' "any chance of a Capital tour or is the ceiling too low?"
2156Z 118.950 PT DEP - MARINE 767.

 

[mdmonitor]

Logs, 5 Jan

ACY-Atlantic City NJ
ADW- Andrews AFB MD
BW- Bay Watch-NAS PAX Area Advisory Control
DOV- Dover AFB DE
GK- Giantkiller (FACSFAC, Virginia Capes)
MTN-Martin State Airport, Baltimore
NGTF-Northrop-Grumman Test Facility, Baltimore
NXX- Willow Grove JRB PA
PAX-NAS Patuxent River MD
WRI-McGuire AFB NJ
ZBW-Boston ARTCC
ZDC- Washington ARTCC
ZNY- New York ARTCC

1. VHF/UHF: ((Times are EST))

1349- Nighthawk 31 (id as H-3, HMX-1, MCAF Quantico)-w/Potomac (124.55)
1350- Navy JA813 (id as helo, VSX-1 PAX)-w/Potomac (124.55).
1355- Swim 57 (E-4B, # 73-1677, 1st ACCS Tinker AFB OK)-land at ADW (128.35 & 118.4)
1422- Navy 309 (UC-12 # 161309, NAF ADW)-patterns at ADW (128.35 & 118.4)
1435- CG 6562 (HH-65, CGAS ACY-deployed to CGAS Washington)-w/Huntress (139.7)
1523- N12NG (King Air, NGTF)-w/Potomac (124.55) then patterns at MTN (121.3).
1531- SPAR 30 (C-37A, 01-0030, 310th AS, MacDill AFB FL)-depart ADW (118.4).
1620- Reach 250 (id as heavy C-17)-w/Potomac (124.55) then w/ZDC (134.5)
1623- JOSA 039- land at ADW (128.35 & 118.4)
1628- JOSA 103 (id as C-21 # 84-0098, 457th AS ADW)-w/ADW CP (141.55) w/inbound msg then land at ADW (118.4)
1633- JOSA 113-check in w/ZDC (113.9) cleared up to FL190.
1642- DeeCee 11 & 12 (KC-135Rs, 756th ARS ADW)-patterns at ADW (128.35 & 118.4)
1644- Nighthawk 34 (prob H-3, HMX-1 MCAF Quantico)-check in w/MTN tower (121.3)
1653- Baton 73 (EC-130J, 93rd SOG, PA ANG Harrisburg PA)-patterns at Phillips AAF MD (126.15)
1702- Tulsa 91 (F-16C/D 125th FS, OK ANG, Tulsa OK)- land at ADW (335.5 & 349.0)
1854- Army 098- check in w/ZDC (133.9)


Ron (mdmonitor1@verizon.net)
Baltimore MD (390747N 763711W)
VHF/UHF: BC-895XLT/RS Pro-2045
Diamond D-130J discone
HF: Icom R75 & Sangean ATS 909
45-ft EF-SWL & 70-ft random wire

 

[freqhopping]

CABAL-71 87-0124 and TEAM-17 chatting away on 139.875.

E-6B 164388 is inbound from the south, heading NE.
2001- Calling maint, 30min out, wants a deer sweep and the usual.


2020- Have Chopper-4 hover around out here for no apparent reason. Only knew it was them after I heard them on 153.05. No mode-s apparently. No comms on JYO unicom either. What's the registration on it?

2024- Now they're on the way south to I-66, just have to avoid all the inbound traffic. I can see them all stacked up myself. Anxious to see the road surface conditions I guess. ?


2052- AE1195? Been level at 5025ft for a while.
2057- Now descending.

 

[TinEar]

2052- AE1195? Been level at 5025ft for a while.
2057- Now descending.

I'm not receiving it but the AE1195 hex belongs to BuNo 166473, a KC-130J from VX-20 at Pax.