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And a few - very few - fighters this afternoon. Turned on the radios to find a flight of three F-16s from Andrews, callsign ANGRY, just coming home from one of the northern work areas. The were probably with Giant Killer in one of the W-10X areas. They were on tac V-5 «143.15» until checking in with SENATE SOF on V-1 «139.9» and then changed to tac V-6 «139.15». ATC comms were with ZDC-Kenton «354.15», BWI TRACON «317.425», Reagan TRACON «270.275» and then with Andrews Tower on «349.0» to land. All this was between 1440 and 1511. On the way home they did some simulated air combat with DARKSTAR and HUNTRESS. One of the pilots announced, "Tally fireball," after destroying his target.
There was also a flight of two MD-ANG A-10s, callsign RAVEN, in the 1500 hour using tac «142.3», possibly «40.15» and then landing with MTN Tower on «297.2»
TESTER 12 with BayWatch on «354.8» heading back to Pax at 1510.
ROMAN F/A-18s on their squadron freq «237.8» at 1523.
BOBCAT (Unknown unit) with Dover Approach «257.875» at 1530.
TESTER 25 and TESTER 443 (unusual to hear three digit suffix with TESTER) with BayWatch on «256.5» starting at 1547.
2100 and still no VA-ANG F-16s tonight. I guess they are not making it four nights in a row for the BASH/SLAM/TBOLT flights into W-72 with Giant Killer and a TOPCAT KC-135 tanker.
There was also a flight of two MD-ANG A-10s, callsign RAVEN, in the 1500 hour using tac «142.3», possibly «40.15» and then landing with MTN Tower on «297.2»
TESTER 12 with BayWatch on «354.8» heading back to Pax at 1510.
ROMAN F/A-18s on their squadron freq «237.8» at 1523.
BOBCAT (Unknown unit) with Dover Approach «257.875» at 1530.
TESTER 25 and TESTER 443 (unusual to hear three digit suffix with TESTER) with BayWatch on «256.5» starting at 1547.
2100 and still no VA-ANG F-16s tonight. I guess they are not making it four nights in a row for the BASH/SLAM/TBOLT flights into W-72 with Giant Killer and a TOPCAT KC-135 tanker.
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Air Show at Langley AFB today and Sunday for those in the area..
Heard A/A 388.850 which is B-2 freq asking about getting in touch with
Langley Show Boss.
Flight of 2 on 388.850 mention UHF prime is 370.900 and also mentions 335.550
REAPER 1 poss B-1 with ZDC 257.700
Some of the performers scheduled..
CF-18 Hornets
T-BIRDS
B-2
F-15 demo East
A-10 demo East
Mark
Heard A/A 388.850 which is B-2 freq asking about getting in touch with
Langley Show Boss.
Flight of 2 on 388.850 mention UHF prime is 370.900 and also mentions 335.550
REAPER 1 poss B-1 with ZDC 257.700
Some of the performers scheduled..
CF-18 Hornets
T-BIRDS
B-2
F-15 demo East
A-10 demo East
Mark
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TinEar
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1315: There is a CAP (Civil Air Patrol) exercise taking place this afternoon. Frequency is 149.5375. The airborne leader appears to be CAP 3716 High Flight. There is also a CAP 3728 just airborne joining in. The exercise consists of them looking for an aircraft. It's a Cessna 206, white with red and blue trim, tail number N207X. That's a good tail number (note owner High Flight which matches the company name used in CAP 3716's call) registered as follows:
N-number : N207X
Aircraft Serial Number : 1207
Aircraft Manufacturer : EXTRA FLUGZEUGBAU GMBH
Model : EA 300/L
Engine Manufacturer : LYCOMING
Model : AEIO-540 SER
Aircraft Year : 2005
Owner Name : HIGH FLIGHT OF AMERICA CORP
Owner Address : 30 OLD RUDNICK LN
DOVER, DE, 19901-4912
Type of Owner : Corporation
Registration Date : 05-Dec-2005
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Standard
Approved Operations : Normal
1320: Also have CAP 1802 active.
Instruction to the air and ground crews is if they spot
this plane, report it to HQ and move away from the area.
1332: F-16 flight of two, callsign AERO, from NJ-ANG Atlantic city with Giant Killer on «255.0»
1335: Also have tac freq «138.3» active which is apparently the AERO flight. (It isn't. It's SMASH on this freq. See below at 1350.)
1340: More NJ flights...BICEP 11 with BayWatch on «354.8». Says they'll be MARSA with a SMASH 21 flight which is right behind them. (Wow! When was the last time we heard the SMASH callsign from NJ? I had that callsign in the "no longer used" column.)
1341: BICEP flight is working «138.425» tac.
1347: SMASH 31 flight with ZDC-Salisbury «257.7» Handed off to Pax 354.8 at 1348
1348: SMASH 31 with Pax BayWatch «354.8»
NOTE: When BICEP entered Pax, he called himself suffix 11 and SMASH as 21. However, later they became 21 and 31 so not sure which are correct. I suspect 21 and 31.
1350: SMASH flight is working tac «138.3»
BICEP and SMASH are both two ship flights.
1400: BICEP flight to BayWatch about to RTB «354.8» and then to ZDC-Salibury «257.7» for VFR clearance direct Waterloo, direct Atlantic City.
1402: Presidential fleet air-to-air freq «136.725» active, two aircraft chatting about wx.
1403: BICEP flight push U-7 to ZDC-Casino «285.4». Leaving 11,500 for 5,500 feet. (Female controller at Casino.)
1405: SMASH flight to ZDC-Cape Charles «256.8» for clearance back to Atlantic City. Leaving 17 for 13,000 feet at 1408. BICEP switched to U-5 but because of their low altitude, I couldn't follow them there.
1410: SMASH 31 handed off to ZDC-Casino «285.4» and cleared down to 11,000.
1414: SMASH flight to Atlantic City Base Ops on «261.0» and still on tac «138.3»
N-number : N207X
Aircraft Serial Number : 1207
Aircraft Manufacturer : EXTRA FLUGZEUGBAU GMBH
Model : EA 300/L
Engine Manufacturer : LYCOMING
Model : AEIO-540 SER
Aircraft Year : 2005
Owner Name : HIGH FLIGHT OF AMERICA CORP
Owner Address : 30 OLD RUDNICK LN
DOVER, DE, 19901-4912
Type of Owner : Corporation
Registration Date : 05-Dec-2005
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Standard
Approved Operations : Normal
1320: Also have CAP 1802 active.
Instruction to the air and ground crews is if they spot
this plane, report it to HQ and move away from the area.
1332: F-16 flight of two, callsign AERO, from NJ-ANG Atlantic city with Giant Killer on «255.0»
1335: Also have tac freq «138.3» active which is apparently the AERO flight. (It isn't. It's SMASH on this freq. See below at 1350.)
1340: More NJ flights...BICEP 11 with BayWatch on «354.8». Says they'll be MARSA with a SMASH 21 flight which is right behind them. (Wow! When was the last time we heard the SMASH callsign from NJ? I had that callsign in the "no longer used" column.)
1341: BICEP flight is working «138.425» tac.
1347: SMASH 31 flight with ZDC-Salisbury «257.7» Handed off to Pax 354.8 at 1348
1348: SMASH 31 with Pax BayWatch «354.8»
NOTE: When BICEP entered Pax, he called himself suffix 11 and SMASH as 21. However, later they became 21 and 31 so not sure which are correct. I suspect 21 and 31.
1350: SMASH flight is working tac «138.3»
BICEP and SMASH are both two ship flights.
1400: BICEP flight to BayWatch about to RTB «354.8» and then to ZDC-Salibury «257.7» for VFR clearance direct Waterloo, direct Atlantic City.
1402: Presidential fleet air-to-air freq «136.725» active, two aircraft chatting about wx.
1403: BICEP flight push U-7 to ZDC-Casino «285.4». Leaving 11,500 for 5,500 feet. (Female controller at Casino.)
1405: SMASH flight to ZDC-Cape Charles «256.8» for clearance back to Atlantic City. Leaving 17 for 13,000 feet at 1408. BICEP switched to U-5 but because of their low altitude, I couldn't follow them there.
1410: SMASH 31 handed off to ZDC-Casino «285.4» and cleared down to 11,000.
1414: SMASH flight to Atlantic City Base Ops on «261.0» and still on tac «138.3»
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TinEar said:
It's been slow out in the West too... Navy in particular is very slow. They said last year there was going to be a lot less flying due to cuts, and I guess they were right.
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Typical C-17 from Andrews to Mcguire..
Slow milcom tonite so caught REACH 954 C-17 on VHF Pot appch 124.550 (Baltimore appch on my scanner) climbing to 13k feet then (ZDC Kent 127.275) at 13k then decending to (Atlantic City appch 124.600) down to 5k then (McGuire appch 124.150) looking for runway 6.
Too far away for McGuire tower....
Mark
Slow milcom tonite so caught REACH 954 C-17 on VHF Pot appch 124.550 (Baltimore appch on my scanner) climbing to 13k feet then (ZDC Kent 127.275) at 13k then decending to (Atlantic City appch 124.600) down to 5k then (McGuire appch 124.150) looking for runway 6.
Too far away for McGuire tower....
Mark
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First activity of the day - other than transport - in the 1300 hour.
WILD flight of two F-16s from Andrews off the deck at 1305. Tac freq «143.6» and with Reagan TRACON «348.725» for climbout.
At 1309, they are handed off to «254.25» where they check in but I didn't get there in time to hear who they called. (Anyone have ideas for the user of 254.25?) ID below at 1347.
From there to ZDC-Hagerstown «227.125» where they climb to 21,000 feet. Then at 1312, it's over to ZNY-Middletown for check in at FL 210. WILD 1 makes a stop with SOF on «139.9» to report some faulty equipment aboard his jet at 1314.
1317: WILD flight requesting altitude block 210-230. «322.4»
1319: WILD requesting direct Slate Run «322.4» (So they are headed to the Duke MOA.)
1320: WILD handed off to ZNY-Philipsburg «306.2» where they check in as a flight of two direct Slate Run.
1322: WILD 1 back to SOF «139.9» to say he's 8 minutes from the Duke MOA and will only have 5 minutes there before having to return so he's checking on the departure of someone ...tanker??? Tells SOF to contact them over on V-5 if he gets any info for them.
1323: WILD requests non-standard formation from ZNY. «306.2»
1325: WILD requesting descent to 17,000 «306.2»
They've apparently changed to a Cleveland Center (ZOB) freq at 1326 which they refer to over on tac. And they've faded out just about this time. Unless they meet a tanker, they'll turn right around and head back.
1336: REACH 0534 (C-17A, tail 90-0534) arriving McGuire 1805Z, A-1, 7 pax, zero cargo, needs flight services, parking and a crew bus for four. «319.4»
1341: WILD flight back in listening range on tac «143.6»
1341: ANGRY 1 flight airborne from Andrews...on TRACON «257.2» with no contact so over to «348.725» and sent back to U-6 , the 257.2 freq, with the same result so back to 348.725 he goes. Climbing out. Tac freq for ANGRY is V-6, «139.15» Flight of three.
1343: WILD back to «306.2» ZNY-Philipsburg and then to ZNY-Middletown «322.4» for their return flight.
1347: ANGRY flight handed off to «254.25» where he calls Potomac Departure. Just remembered...this is the Westminster Five Departure freq of the Potomac TRACON. Very seldom heard.
1347: WILD flight with mission results to SOF on «139.9» Reports 78 miles out.
1349: ANGRY flight handed off to ZDC-Hagerstown «227.125» where he checks in and climbs to 21,000.
1352: ANGRY flight to ZNY-Middletown «322.4» where he reports climbing to 25,000 due to weather (requested on last freq) and says his flight is direct Slate Run. (Another flight to Duke MOA)
1355: ANGRY flight handed off to ZNY-Philipsburg «306.2» where they check in at FL 250.
1357: ANGRY flight requests to go back down to FL 210 if available. «306.2»
1359: WILD flight with Reagan TRACON to approach runway 1L at Andrews «269.0» Check in at 19..000 and cleared down to 3,000.
1400: WILD flight handed off to U-19 «335.5» low approach freq. Tac still «143.6»
1400: ANGRY cleared down to 18,000 feet. «306.2» (Weak on this freq...still loud and clear on tac 139.15)
1402: ANGRY cleared to 17,000 feet. «306.2»
1403: WILD to Andrews Tower U-4 «349.0» heading for runway 1L.
1405: WILD reports gear down for full stop landing 1L. «349.0»
(And there goes both the phone and the front door...back in a bit.)
1409:WILY 14 (Unknown) calling Navy Ops on «139.3». Says he's 15 minutes out, requests parking and airstairs.
1412: U/I fighters on tac «139.75» Chatting about the sights of DC as they fly over. Could be BULLET flight from below.
1413: BULLET 11 (A-10, 172nd FS, MI-ANG Battle Creek) climbing out of Andrews on TRACON «257.2»
1417: BULLET 11 flight handed off to TRACON «343.7» heading for Gordonsville and climbing to 15,000....at 1419 cleared to 21,000. Flight of two aircraft.
1421: BULLET 11 flight handed off to ZDC-Montebello «284.7» where he's told to climb to 260. And, yes, it's the same flight on the tac «139.75» freq where they also used the BULLET callsign giving fuel reports.
1422: BULLET flight reports change to V-15 while on «139.75» and I can't find them in search after that.
1427: WILY 14 to Navy Ops «139.3» to report they are in a holding pattern and there will be a 20-30 minute delay before landing.
1429: ???? on tac «139.9» Don't believe this is the ANGRY flight...could be the BULLETs. Say to go to V-2 and I pick up activity on «141.675»
1432: BULLET flight handed off to ZDC-Gordonsville «351.9» from Montebello but I never hear them check in there...guess they faded out.
1433: ANGRY flight back in range on tac V-6 «139.15»
1435: MAD HOG 1 (OA-10, 103rd FS PA-ANG Willow Grove) flight with ZDC-Calvert «281.4» These are the guys from 141.675.
1438: Flight on 141.675 says to check in (I think that's what I heard but it doesn't make sense) on 132.27(5) which is ZDC-Bay. Listening for them there....hear nada.
1441: MAD HOG flight handed off to ZDC-Casino « 285.4» where they check in at 17,000 and descending to 13,000. It's a flight of two aircraft.
1446: ANGRY flight to SOF «139.9» with mission results and all three report Code 1 status.
1447: MAD HOG flight cleared down to 11,000 «285.4»
1453: MAD HOG 1 handed off to Philadelphia TRACON (They call Philadelphia Approach) on «286.0» where they try to check in but get no reply so they change to Philly TRACON «291.7» where they say no one would talk to them on 286.0. They check in at 11,000. Handed off to «319.15»
1455: ANGRY flight to TRACON low approach on «335.5»
1456: Been hearing a _____ 16 with ZDC-Woodstown «363.0» for the past 10 minutes or so at FL 210 and 220 reporting direct Woodstown. Can't pull out his callsign - says it too fast.
1458: MAD HOG flight with Philly TRACON «319.15» at 11,500 feet reporting west of the field.
1501: MAD HOG says his flight will descend to 3500 feet if no one is below them to cause a problem. They're given 8000. So much for 3500. «391.15»
1502: ANGRY flight to SOF «139.9» to say they only have 100 pounds of divert fuel left...not declaring an emergency at this time but obviously need to land soon.
1503: MAD HOG cleared down to 3500 feet. «319.15» (that should be the last heard from them)
1503: ANGRY asking about declaring an emergency...they're down to 1600 pounds...mention of waiting until down to 1200 pounds of fuel left before declaring the emergency. Not sure why they're being held in the air other than ramp freeze. ANGRY flight goes back to V-6 on «139.15» and flight leader gets confirmation from the other two pilots that they heard the statements from the SOF. (CYA)
I'm showing light rain at Andrews on the radar (which is also being reported on Andrews' ATIS report Xray) but not heavy enough to hold them in the air.
1508: ANGRY flight talking about going to a KC-135 (not sure if they are just reporting a sighting) «335.5» Cleared from 19,000 down to 4,000 and apparently have clearance to land.
1509: That ____ 16, is a a flight of two aircraft, handed off from Woodstown to ZNY-Yardley «290.2» where they check in and are handed off to ZNY-Kennedy «282.3». Still can't catch their callsign. Two syllables...last one is DAY. Still talking about altitude blocks at 1516 and still on the 282.3 ZNY freq. Still there at 1519 and finally starting to get weaker.
1513: ANGRY flight to Andrews Tower «349.0» on a five mile final for the runway. And they land safely...finally. Final chat was with SOF on «139.9» rather than on tac.
Out of time...back later.
WILD flight of two F-16s from Andrews off the deck at 1305. Tac freq «143.6» and with Reagan TRACON «348.725» for climbout.
At 1309, they are handed off to «254.25» where they check in but I didn't get there in time to hear who they called. (Anyone have ideas for the user of 254.25?) ID below at 1347.
From there to ZDC-Hagerstown «227.125» where they climb to 21,000 feet. Then at 1312, it's over to ZNY-Middletown for check in at FL 210. WILD 1 makes a stop with SOF on «139.9» to report some faulty equipment aboard his jet at 1314.
1317: WILD flight requesting altitude block 210-230. «322.4»
1319: WILD requesting direct Slate Run «322.4» (So they are headed to the Duke MOA.)
1320: WILD handed off to ZNY-Philipsburg «306.2» where they check in as a flight of two direct Slate Run.
1322: WILD 1 back to SOF «139.9» to say he's 8 minutes from the Duke MOA and will only have 5 minutes there before having to return so he's checking on the departure of someone ...tanker??? Tells SOF to contact them over on V-5 if he gets any info for them.
1323: WILD requests non-standard formation from ZNY. «306.2»
1325: WILD requesting descent to 17,000 «306.2»
They've apparently changed to a Cleveland Center (ZOB) freq at 1326 which they refer to over on tac. And they've faded out just about this time. Unless they meet a tanker, they'll turn right around and head back.
1336: REACH 0534 (C-17A, tail 90-0534) arriving McGuire 1805Z, A-1, 7 pax, zero cargo, needs flight services, parking and a crew bus for four. «319.4»
1341: WILD flight back in listening range on tac «143.6»
1341: ANGRY 1 flight airborne from Andrews...on TRACON «257.2» with no contact so over to «348.725» and sent back to U-6 , the 257.2 freq, with the same result so back to 348.725 he goes. Climbing out. Tac freq for ANGRY is V-6, «139.15» Flight of three.
1343: WILD back to «306.2» ZNY-Philipsburg and then to ZNY-Middletown «322.4» for their return flight.
1347: ANGRY flight handed off to «254.25» where he calls Potomac Departure. Just remembered...this is the Westminster Five Departure freq of the Potomac TRACON. Very seldom heard.
1347: WILD flight with mission results to SOF on «139.9» Reports 78 miles out.
1349: ANGRY flight handed off to ZDC-Hagerstown «227.125» where he checks in and climbs to 21,000.
1352: ANGRY flight to ZNY-Middletown «322.4» where he reports climbing to 25,000 due to weather (requested on last freq) and says his flight is direct Slate Run. (Another flight to Duke MOA)
1355: ANGRY flight handed off to ZNY-Philipsburg «306.2» where they check in at FL 250.
1357: ANGRY flight requests to go back down to FL 210 if available. «306.2»
1359: WILD flight with Reagan TRACON to approach runway 1L at Andrews «269.0» Check in at 19..000 and cleared down to 3,000.
1400: WILD flight handed off to U-19 «335.5» low approach freq. Tac still «143.6»
1400: ANGRY cleared down to 18,000 feet. «306.2» (Weak on this freq...still loud and clear on tac 139.15)
1402: ANGRY cleared to 17,000 feet. «306.2»
1403: WILD to Andrews Tower U-4 «349.0» heading for runway 1L.
1405: WILD reports gear down for full stop landing 1L. «349.0»
(And there goes both the phone and the front door...back in a bit.)
1409:WILY 14 (Unknown) calling Navy Ops on «139.3». Says he's 15 minutes out, requests parking and airstairs.
1412: U/I fighters on tac «139.75» Chatting about the sights of DC as they fly over. Could be BULLET flight from below.
1413: BULLET 11 (A-10, 172nd FS, MI-ANG Battle Creek) climbing out of Andrews on TRACON «257.2»
1417: BULLET 11 flight handed off to TRACON «343.7» heading for Gordonsville and climbing to 15,000....at 1419 cleared to 21,000. Flight of two aircraft.
1421: BULLET 11 flight handed off to ZDC-Montebello «284.7» where he's told to climb to 260. And, yes, it's the same flight on the tac «139.75» freq where they also used the BULLET callsign giving fuel reports.
1422: BULLET flight reports change to V-15 while on «139.75» and I can't find them in search after that.
1427: WILY 14 to Navy Ops «139.3» to report they are in a holding pattern and there will be a 20-30 minute delay before landing.
1429: ???? on tac «139.9» Don't believe this is the ANGRY flight...could be the BULLETs. Say to go to V-2 and I pick up activity on «141.675»
1432: BULLET flight handed off to ZDC-Gordonsville «351.9» from Montebello but I never hear them check in there...guess they faded out.
1433: ANGRY flight back in range on tac V-6 «139.15»
1435: MAD HOG 1 (OA-10, 103rd FS PA-ANG Willow Grove) flight with ZDC-Calvert «281.4» These are the guys from 141.675.
1438: Flight on 141.675 says to check in (I think that's what I heard but it doesn't make sense) on 132.27(5) which is ZDC-Bay. Listening for them there....hear nada.
1441: MAD HOG flight handed off to ZDC-Casino « 285.4» where they check in at 17,000 and descending to 13,000. It's a flight of two aircraft.
1446: ANGRY flight to SOF «139.9» with mission results and all three report Code 1 status.
1447: MAD HOG flight cleared down to 11,000 «285.4»
1453: MAD HOG 1 handed off to Philadelphia TRACON (They call Philadelphia Approach) on «286.0» where they try to check in but get no reply so they change to Philly TRACON «291.7» where they say no one would talk to them on 286.0. They check in at 11,000. Handed off to «319.15»
1455: ANGRY flight to TRACON low approach on «335.5»
1456: Been hearing a _____ 16 with ZDC-Woodstown «363.0» for the past 10 minutes or so at FL 210 and 220 reporting direct Woodstown. Can't pull out his callsign - says it too fast.
1458: MAD HOG flight with Philly TRACON «319.15» at 11,500 feet reporting west of the field.
1501: MAD HOG says his flight will descend to 3500 feet if no one is below them to cause a problem. They're given 8000. So much for 3500. «391.15»
1502: ANGRY flight to SOF «139.9» to say they only have 100 pounds of divert fuel left...not declaring an emergency at this time but obviously need to land soon.
1503: MAD HOG cleared down to 3500 feet. «319.15» (that should be the last heard from them)
1503: ANGRY asking about declaring an emergency...they're down to 1600 pounds...mention of waiting until down to 1200 pounds of fuel left before declaring the emergency. Not sure why they're being held in the air other than ramp freeze. ANGRY flight goes back to V-6 on «139.15» and flight leader gets confirmation from the other two pilots that they heard the statements from the SOF. (CYA)
I'm showing light rain at Andrews on the radar (which is also being reported on Andrews' ATIS report Xray) but not heavy enough to hold them in the air.
1508: ANGRY flight talking about going to a KC-135 (not sure if they are just reporting a sighting) «335.5» Cleared from 19,000 down to 4,000 and apparently have clearance to land.
1509: That ____ 16, is a a flight of two aircraft, handed off from Woodstown to ZNY-Yardley «290.2» where they check in and are handed off to ZNY-Kennedy «282.3». Still can't catch their callsign. Two syllables...last one is DAY. Still talking about altitude blocks at 1516 and still on the 282.3 ZNY freq. Still there at 1519 and finally starting to get weaker.
1513: ANGRY flight to Andrews Tower «349.0» on a five mile final for the runway. And they land safely...finally. Final chat was with SOF on «139.9» rather than on tac.
Out of time...back later.
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I thought I'd post this, since they will be traveling through the area:
http://www.herald-mail.com/?module=displaystory&story_id=137657&format=html
Paul
I thought I'd post this, since they will be traveling through the area:
http://www.herald-mail.com/?module=displaystory&story_id=137657&format=html
Paul
Where did the night time flights go?
Hey All,
How come it seems like alot of the night time missions, flights , sorties,what ever you
want to call them have really died off lately?It seems like according to Tins logs
alot of activity is during the day.The only thing I am hearing is tankers on 238.9 at night time.
Any ideas?
Just an observation.
Jack
Hey All,
How come it seems like alot of the night time missions, flights , sorties,what ever you
want to call them have really died off lately?It seems like according to Tins logs
alot of activity is during the day.The only thing I am hearing is tankers on 238.9 at night time.
Any ideas?
Just an observation.
Jack
TinEar
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Paul, thanks for posting that story. That's good to know and I look forward to hearing those big C-5s lumbering around the area.
Jack, I've been complaining that the daytime activity has dropped way off too. Nothing at all has been happening during the morning hours and just a little during the afternoons. I agree that nights have been dead. Dave posted that west coast activity has been light too although Jack reports that in the south he's been very busy. I've had a couple of people mention the upper midwest has been busy also. It's hard to tell if it's a basic change to their flying schedules or just what the reason may be. Maybe they're in a classroom situation. I'm sure it'll all return at some point though. I hope. These fluctuation in flying hours seem to happen from time to time.
Jack, I've been complaining that the daytime activity has dropped way off too. Nothing at all has been happening during the morning hours and just a little during the afternoons. I agree that nights have been dead. Dave posted that west coast activity has been light too although Jack reports that in the south he's been very busy. I've had a couple of people mention the upper midwest has been busy also. It's hard to tell if it's a basic change to their flying schedules or just what the reason may be. Maybe they're in a classroom situation. I'm sure it'll all return at some point though. I hope. These fluctuation in flying hours seem to happen from time to time.
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1025 corvette 2 ship at warren grove range 283.1
1026 TBOLT 21 with GK on 249.8
1035 a/a activity on 292.3 with range and bearing
1040 NJNG helo with base 40.100
1118 U/I on 323.2
1152 Mover30 with another ac on 228.0 mentioned working zny on 125.925
1247 flyer 1 with Philly tracon 291.7
1026 TBOLT 21 with GK on 249.8
1035 a/a activity on 292.3 with range and bearing
1040 NJNG helo with base 40.100
1118 U/I on 323.2
1152 Mover30 with another ac on 228.0 mentioned working zny on 125.925
1247 flyer 1 with Philly tracon 291.7
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This is a surprise....
1000 hour finds a BULLY flight of two F-16s from Andrews on tac 143.15....two flights of F-16s from Atlantic City on tac 138.425 and 138.875....a SLAM flight of F-16s from Richmond on tac 141.875....and the A-10 CORVETTE flight mentioned above from Bradley.
1034: Giant Killer's ops freq 292.3 active...probably the VA-ANG F-16s.
1038: SLAM flight reports 25 miles east of HEELS and RTB Richmond to GK on 238.1
1040: U/I fighters on tac 138.95. Activity weak but further listening makes these sound like A-10s so it might be the Bradley fighters at Warren Grove.
And around 1100 all becomes quiet as the fighters return to their parking spots and hangars and the pilots fill out their debriefing paperwork and tell war stories before heading off to lunch at the 'O' Club.
1125: Wait! Wait! Are those MD-ANG A-10s I hear on tac 142.3? Well, yes, I do believe it is. But they are weak and almost unreadable down in the mud. Callsign RAVEN, flight of three.
1126: REACH 011 reports airborne from Dover AFB at 1520Z on 349.4.
1133: Looks like the RAVEN flight is on its way home to Warfield ANGB. 142.3
1134: RAVEN to Raven Ops on 347.2 to report 10 minutes out...RAVEN 1 and 2 are Code 1 and 3 is Code 2. His HUD is blurry. They are also with BWI TRACON on "button 5" 317.425 and descending from 6 to 3,000 feet.
1137: RAVEN flight handed off to BWI TRACON 290.475 where they are immediately handed off to MTN Tower 297.2 and check in as a flight of three "Alpha 10s."
1140: PACER 80 to Andrews CP on 378.1 to report he departed ISO (Kinston NC) at 1515Z and wants that info put into the system.
1144: RAVEN flight landing but with several comments about being aware of small aircraft around them. 297.2/142.3. All three on the deck by 1148
1153: U/I fighters on tac 141.675 and with ZNY-Ship Bottom 307.8 which probably puts them also going to or coming from Warren Grove Range. No callsign heard yet - at least not one that I could pull out. (See next line.)
1157: The above flight is callsign MACK - A-10s from the MA-ANG at Barnes. They were handed off to ZNY-Kennedy on 282.3.
1200: SAM 162 arriving Andrews...with Approach on 119.3
1211: Presidential fleet air/air freq 136.725 active with talk about winds around Richmond.
1213: PAT 58 with arrival message to Dover CP 349.4
1213: DC 31 (KC-135 Andrews) to LIBERATOR on 351.2 to report 25 minutes out, A-1, 46K on the fuel...he says he's trying to make it home to Andrews before the ramp freeze. (1211 log item must apply.)
1220: DC 31 calls several times and finally makes contact with LIBERATOR to say he should be on the ground in about 20 minutes, will park in spot 4 and really, really wants to make it in before the ramp freeze. Oh...and on his last call, he called TIGER rather than LIBERATOR. Mistake? «351.2» (I've logged the TIGER callsign used by the 756th tankers at least twice previously - on 8/15/05 and 3/8/06.)
1226: Presidential fleet talking about wx at ADW as they approach for landing. The Big Guy's pilot wants the lead aircraft to give him a call upon landing. 136.725
1238: Air Force 1 reports to ADW Tower 118.4 that he's 15 out and preparing for landing.
Break time....back later. 75 degrees and sunny...outside is calling.
1000 hour finds a BULLY flight of two F-16s from Andrews on tac 143.15....two flights of F-16s from Atlantic City on tac 138.425 and 138.875....a SLAM flight of F-16s from Richmond on tac 141.875....and the A-10 CORVETTE flight mentioned above from Bradley.
1034: Giant Killer's ops freq 292.3 active...probably the VA-ANG F-16s.
1038: SLAM flight reports 25 miles east of HEELS and RTB Richmond to GK on 238.1
1040: U/I fighters on tac 138.95. Activity weak but further listening makes these sound like A-10s so it might be the Bradley fighters at Warren Grove.
And around 1100 all becomes quiet as the fighters return to their parking spots and hangars and the pilots fill out their debriefing paperwork and tell war stories before heading off to lunch at the 'O' Club.
1125: Wait! Wait! Are those MD-ANG A-10s I hear on tac 142.3? Well, yes, I do believe it is. But they are weak and almost unreadable down in the mud. Callsign RAVEN, flight of three.
1126: REACH 011 reports airborne from Dover AFB at 1520Z on 349.4.
1133: Looks like the RAVEN flight is on its way home to Warfield ANGB. 142.3
1134: RAVEN to Raven Ops on 347.2 to report 10 minutes out...RAVEN 1 and 2 are Code 1 and 3 is Code 2. His HUD is blurry. They are also with BWI TRACON on "button 5" 317.425 and descending from 6 to 3,000 feet.
1137: RAVEN flight handed off to BWI TRACON 290.475 where they are immediately handed off to MTN Tower 297.2 and check in as a flight of three "Alpha 10s."
1140: PACER 80 to Andrews CP on 378.1 to report he departed ISO (Kinston NC) at 1515Z and wants that info put into the system.
1144: RAVEN flight landing but with several comments about being aware of small aircraft around them. 297.2/142.3. All three on the deck by 1148
1153: U/I fighters on tac 141.675 and with ZNY-Ship Bottom 307.8 which probably puts them also going to or coming from Warren Grove Range. No callsign heard yet - at least not one that I could pull out. (See next line.)
1157: The above flight is callsign MACK - A-10s from the MA-ANG at Barnes. They were handed off to ZNY-Kennedy on 282.3.
1200: SAM 162 arriving Andrews...with Approach on 119.3
1211: Presidential fleet air/air freq 136.725 active with talk about winds around Richmond.
1213: PAT 58 with arrival message to Dover CP 349.4
1213: DC 31 (KC-135 Andrews) to LIBERATOR on 351.2 to report 25 minutes out, A-1, 46K on the fuel...he says he's trying to make it home to Andrews before the ramp freeze. (1211 log item must apply.)
1220: DC 31 calls several times and finally makes contact with LIBERATOR to say he should be on the ground in about 20 minutes, will park in spot 4 and really, really wants to make it in before the ramp freeze. Oh...and on his last call, he called TIGER rather than LIBERATOR. Mistake? «351.2» (I've logged the TIGER callsign used by the 756th tankers at least twice previously - on 8/15/05 and 3/8/06.)
1226: Presidential fleet talking about wx at ADW as they approach for landing. The Big Guy's pilot wants the lead aircraft to give him a call upon landing. 136.725
1238: Air Force 1 reports to ADW Tower 118.4 that he's 15 out and preparing for landing.
Break time....back later. 75 degrees and sunny...outside is calling.
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Here's a neat one for you guys to listen for. You probably already heard it. Check out the ECM pods.
http://pao.navair.navy.mil/press_re...on=home.view&Press_release_id=3465&site_id=15
Hopefully we will get one out here in the West for eval soon.
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http://pao.navair.navy.mil/press_re...on=home.view&Press_release_id=3465&site_id=15
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Thanks Dave. I take it when they talk about aircraft 120 and 101 for the tests, they are talking about SALTY DOG 120 and 101. If so, that'll sure make it easier to pick them out of the crowd. Could it really be that easy?
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1420: Back at it and am hearing a BULLY flight of F-16s from Andrews on tac 143.15 that sound like they're just coming home.
1420: There is also a fighter flight on Pax River freq 341.95. Callsign DOG 1, 2 and 3 which makes them Naval. They mention being around Vienna (MD).
1423: Also hearing weak activity from MTN A-10s on tac freq 142.3. Callsign RAVEN.
1425: Add F-16s from VA-ANG Richmond on 141.875. I started to say one of them is a female pilot but I'm actually hearing the ground station from Richmond. This is a first. Don't expect conditions to last that are making this happen. (It doesn't. Heard her for 2-3 minutes and then poof--gone.)
1427: One of the flights from Richmond is BASH 61 now with Norfolk TRACON on 370.925.
1429: U/I flight to ZDC-Casino 285.4. (Might be Willow Grove flight)
1430: BASH 61 flight to GK on 238.1 to enter work area.
1430: VA-ANG also on tac 141.6
1430: U/I flight handed off to ZDC-Kenton 354.15 from 285.4 (Willow Grove fighters?)
1430: BULLY flight with Reagan TRACON 270.275 as they approach ADW.
1433: BULLY flight to U-4 349.0 for landing ADW.
1433: Also have a fighter flight on 143.25. Normally a Willow Grove A-10 freq. We'll see.
1440: The DOG flight is having a good old time on 341.95. Their terminology and attitude is much different than the normal Air Force pilots we hear. Lots of colorful comments while they do their air combat maneuvers.
1445: BATON 20 (EC-130J 193rd SOG, PA-ANG Harrisburg) to Baton Ops on 395.1 with arrival message. 15 minutes out, 18,500 on the fuel, is "A-3 for electrical smoke smell around the aux crew station."
1449: RAVEN, flight of four A-10s, mention seeing F-18s. «142.3»
1450: Hearing the female controller on the VA-ANG 141.875 freq again. Not so sure now that she's a ground station. She may be an airborne AWACS type controller. If so, her aircraft is in an offset position since she's considerably weaker than the BASH fighters. But that's normal. BASH is a flight of at least three F-16s.
1455: DOG flight goes away «341.95» Think I heard them with BayWatch on 270.8 when they departed the Vienna area.
1458: U/I fighters on 291.15 - another Pax River freq.
1502: RAVENs referencing a STEEL aircraft indicating they may be getting ready for refueling activity.
1505: RAVENs indeed meeting up with a STEEL but it sure doesn't sound like refueling...the STEEL voice appears to be an airborne controller of some sort and might be another of the RAVENs directing the rest of the flight onto a ground target. «142.3»
1508: Navy SE344 with FSS Leesburg Radio on «255.4». Hear ground but not the aircraft. (He might be on 122.2 and I'm just hearing the Leesburg simulcast taking place on the UHF freq)
It always grates on me when I have to call a freq in the 225-300 range "UHF" since it's really VHF.
1512: BASH flight from Richmond still doing air combat on 141.875.
1514: Just heard a SCOUT 11 with Pax River on 291.15 (I think...scan resumed before I caught a good look.) Callsign doesn't compute for anything in this area although it does compute for A-10s from Whiteman AFB MO and I think some of their aircraft are here on the East Coast. Seems I've seen them reported in one of the milair forums.
1520: RAVEN flight still doing ground attack...the STEEL aircraft is now being called STEEL 5. «142.3»
1521: Have a couple of aircraft chatting on «141.1» talking about going back and forth to Langley.
1521: VA-ANG flight also on «141.825» Not sure yet if this is the BASH flight or another.
1522: Navy fighters on Pax freq «291.15» One of them is TESTER 26 (USN Test Pilot School, Patuxent River NAS)
1530: The RAVEN flight is headed home and is with Raven Ops on «347.2» to report all four are Code 1. A few minutes earlier the STEEL 5 airborne controller said he was bugging out to the west to RTB and the RAVENs said they'd RTB in that case. Have no idea who the STEEL 5 aircraft was. Still using tac «142.3» also.
1533: CHALICE E3 aircraft with Giant Killer on «249.8» talking about areas of work. I'd bet that CHALICE was the controller for the BASH 61 flight doing the air combat exercises. In fact, right after that transmission, BASH called CHALICE on tac «141.875» to answer a question about altitudes that CHALICE was asking Giant Killer.
1536: WOLF 21 (F-15 Langley) with Giant Killer on «238.1». Flight of four direct Snow Hill.
1538: REACH 199T with arrival message into McGuire on «319.4» Reports 1 pax, no cargo, needs crew bus for six requested. (So it ain't a Piper Cub.)
1540: BASH 61 reports 30 miles east of Snow Hill to GK on «238.1» on their way home...HEELS, then direct Richmond.
1541: WOLF 21 handed off by Giant Killer «238.1» to ZDC-Salisbury «257.7» where the flight of four checks in and reports climbing to FL 260.
1544: RAVEN flight landing MTN with Tower on «297.2»
1545: TESTER 16 with BayWatch «270.8» checking in.
1548: WOLF 21 flight handed off by ZDC-Salisbury to Norfolk TRACON «370.925» where they check in and request descent.
Approaching 1600 and all is quiet again. To the outside I must go.
Oops....hearing tac «138.2» active which is probably F-16s from the NJ-ANG Atlantic City heading out somewhere just as I start to close down. From there to V-1 on 138.125 and then to V-15 on 138.425. It's all yours.
1600: The NJ F-16s are beginning a CAP with HUNTRESS on «260.9» Callsign COSMIC. COSMIC 47 reports NVG and SADL capable.
There is no TFR published for this CAP flight.
1605: COSMIC 47 asking HUNTRESS if he has his VHF radio today. «260.9» He then mentions 138.2. From there COSMIC 47 goes to tac «138.425» to tell his wingman to switch to 138.2. They go there and COSMIC 47 says they'll stick with the 260.9 freq since comms are not good on VHF. And they switch back to 260.9
Gotta leave....carbineone, it's all yours.
1420: There is also a fighter flight on Pax River freq 341.95. Callsign DOG 1, 2 and 3 which makes them Naval. They mention being around Vienna (MD).
1423: Also hearing weak activity from MTN A-10s on tac freq 142.3. Callsign RAVEN.
1425: Add F-16s from VA-ANG Richmond on 141.875. I started to say one of them is a female pilot but I'm actually hearing the ground station from Richmond. This is a first. Don't expect conditions to last that are making this happen. (It doesn't. Heard her for 2-3 minutes and then poof--gone.)
1427: One of the flights from Richmond is BASH 61 now with Norfolk TRACON on 370.925.
1429: U/I flight to ZDC-Casino 285.4. (Might be Willow Grove flight)
1430: BASH 61 flight to GK on 238.1 to enter work area.
1430: VA-ANG also on tac 141.6
1430: U/I flight handed off to ZDC-Kenton 354.15 from 285.4 (Willow Grove fighters?)
1430: BULLY flight with Reagan TRACON 270.275 as they approach ADW.
1433: BULLY flight to U-4 349.0 for landing ADW.
1433: Also have a fighter flight on 143.25. Normally a Willow Grove A-10 freq. We'll see.
1440: The DOG flight is having a good old time on 341.95. Their terminology and attitude is much different than the normal Air Force pilots we hear. Lots of colorful comments while they do their air combat maneuvers.
1445: BATON 20 (EC-130J 193rd SOG, PA-ANG Harrisburg) to Baton Ops on 395.1 with arrival message. 15 minutes out, 18,500 on the fuel, is "A-3 for electrical smoke smell around the aux crew station."
1449: RAVEN, flight of four A-10s, mention seeing F-18s. «142.3»
1450: Hearing the female controller on the VA-ANG 141.875 freq again. Not so sure now that she's a ground station. She may be an airborne AWACS type controller. If so, her aircraft is in an offset position since she's considerably weaker than the BASH fighters. But that's normal. BASH is a flight of at least three F-16s.
1455: DOG flight goes away «341.95» Think I heard them with BayWatch on 270.8 when they departed the Vienna area.
1458: U/I fighters on 291.15 - another Pax River freq.
1502: RAVENs referencing a STEEL aircraft indicating they may be getting ready for refueling activity.
1505: RAVENs indeed meeting up with a STEEL but it sure doesn't sound like refueling...the STEEL voice appears to be an airborne controller of some sort and might be another of the RAVENs directing the rest of the flight onto a ground target. «142.3»
1508: Navy SE344 with FSS Leesburg Radio on «255.4». Hear ground but not the aircraft. (He might be on 122.2 and I'm just hearing the Leesburg simulcast taking place on the UHF freq)
It always grates on me when I have to call a freq in the 225-300 range "UHF" since it's really VHF.
1512: BASH flight from Richmond still doing air combat on 141.875.
1514: Just heard a SCOUT 11 with Pax River on 291.15 (I think...scan resumed before I caught a good look.) Callsign doesn't compute for anything in this area although it does compute for A-10s from Whiteman AFB MO and I think some of their aircraft are here on the East Coast. Seems I've seen them reported in one of the milair forums.
1520: RAVEN flight still doing ground attack...the STEEL aircraft is now being called STEEL 5. «142.3»
1521: Have a couple of aircraft chatting on «141.1» talking about going back and forth to Langley.
1521: VA-ANG flight also on «141.825» Not sure yet if this is the BASH flight or another.
1522: Navy fighters on Pax freq «291.15» One of them is TESTER 26 (USN Test Pilot School, Patuxent River NAS)
1530: The RAVEN flight is headed home and is with Raven Ops on «347.2» to report all four are Code 1. A few minutes earlier the STEEL 5 airborne controller said he was bugging out to the west to RTB and the RAVENs said they'd RTB in that case. Have no idea who the STEEL 5 aircraft was. Still using tac «142.3» also.
1533: CHALICE E3 aircraft with Giant Killer on «249.8» talking about areas of work. I'd bet that CHALICE was the controller for the BASH 61 flight doing the air combat exercises. In fact, right after that transmission, BASH called CHALICE on tac «141.875» to answer a question about altitudes that CHALICE was asking Giant Killer.
1536: WOLF 21 (F-15 Langley) with Giant Killer on «238.1». Flight of four direct Snow Hill.
1538: REACH 199T with arrival message into McGuire on «319.4» Reports 1 pax, no cargo, needs crew bus for six requested. (So it ain't a Piper Cub.)
1540: BASH 61 reports 30 miles east of Snow Hill to GK on «238.1» on their way home...HEELS, then direct Richmond.
1541: WOLF 21 handed off by Giant Killer «238.1» to ZDC-Salisbury «257.7» where the flight of four checks in and reports climbing to FL 260.
1544: RAVEN flight landing MTN with Tower on «297.2»
1545: TESTER 16 with BayWatch «270.8» checking in.
1548: WOLF 21 flight handed off by ZDC-Salisbury to Norfolk TRACON «370.925» where they check in and request descent.
Approaching 1600 and all is quiet again. To the outside I must go.
Oops....hearing tac «138.2» active which is probably F-16s from the NJ-ANG Atlantic City heading out somewhere just as I start to close down. From there to V-1 on 138.125 and then to V-15 on 138.425. It's all yours.
1600: The NJ F-16s are beginning a CAP with HUNTRESS on «260.9» Callsign COSMIC. COSMIC 47 reports NVG and SADL capable.
There is no TFR published for this CAP flight.
1605: COSMIC 47 asking HUNTRESS if he has his VHF radio today. «260.9» He then mentions 138.2. From there COSMIC 47 goes to tac «138.425» to tell his wingman to switch to 138.2. They go there and COSMIC 47 says they'll stick with the 260.9 freq since comms are not good on VHF. And they switch back to 260.9
Gotta leave....carbineone, it's all yours.
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Yep. In the Navy, when they use the 3 digit call number, it almost always corresponds to the side number. The combat units tend to switch to side number when they work with the boat ATC and VX units tend to use the side number in general lots of times. When the Navy uses the 2 digit numbers, they often correspond to the flight of the day... In other words, the first flight of the day would be Blade 11, 12, then the second flight Blade 21 , 22 and so on. Then they also sometimes switch to the tac calls when doing combat, like Hammer 1 & 2, and that kind of thing. For some test units, when they don't have a side number, they will sometimes use the last two/three BuNo numbers. Even if they use a non associated number, you can often catch the side number when they call inbound to base.
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1547 tanker3? with huntress 260.9 mentions 320.6
1601 cosmic47 with huntress 260.9
1607 cosmic47 has huntress switch to 138.2
1608 cosmic47 switches back to 260.9 due to background noise on 138.2
Ok thanks TinEar
1601 cosmic47 with huntress 260.9
1607 cosmic47 has huntress switch to 138.2
1608 cosmic47 switches back to 260.9 due to background noise on 138.2
Ok thanks TinEar
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Didn't hear the end of the CAP but it sure was short. There was no published flight restriction notice and I doubt it was for Presidential movement since he had just returned from a trip earlier in the afternoon. No telling.
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