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[TinEar]

1058: Northrup-Grumman test flight freq «123.225» active.
1101-04: OMAHA 3 from THOR on «282.425» being told that BLUE GRASS says he can land at the pilot's discretion. They can't hear OMAHA 3's transmissions. (I can't either. I can only hear THOR.)
1105: Flight of four Langley aircraft on tac «276.675»
1106: Giant Killer's ops freq «391.2» active.
1108: RACER 01 with Andrews Tower «349.0» on takeoff...handed off to Reagan TRACON «257.2» where he reports climbout. Reports direct Linden.
RACER is an F-16 from the 113th FS, IN-ANG Terre Haute.
1110: RACER 01 over to ZDC-Linden «319.1» Still climbing and cleared to FL 270. He says 5 degrees to the right would be direct Terre Haute confirming his ID. By 1112, he's reached 27,000 feet.
1113: RACER 01 cleared to final altitude of 28,000 feet. «319.1» Speed 270 knots.
1116: Giant Killer's ops freq «292.3» with a flight of Langley aircraft...callsign TORCH. There was also mention of the HUSKY callsign from Langley. These are all F-15s. Part of the TORCH flight is working the «391.2» freq.
1116: Refueling freq «238.9» has been busy for the past 15 minutes but no callsigns heard yet.
1119: RACER 01 handed off to ZDC-Moorefield «371.9» where he checks in at FL 280. (Nothing further heard from him.)
1125: Giant Killer's ops freq «373.1» active.
1127: Northrup-Grumman test flight working in BayWatch area on «264.55»
1135: The Northrup-Grumman test flight is FAA registration number N168W. He calls base on «123.225» to report, "Coming down the hill." (He uses that term often but I'm not sure if he means he's coming back to base or descending when he uses it.)
1153: DRAGON 73 (F-15 Langley) with Norfolk TRACON «370.925»

1201: U/I helo, using ID 325, checking out the range at Aberdeen and flying at 800 feet. Says he's flying down the Bush River and then over the "new" bomb field. «248.4» Later mentions overflying Edgewood.
1213: PAT 23 (helicopter sounds) to Leesburg Radio on FSS freq «255.4» to get permission to make a 15 minute flight from Gaitherburg to the Pentagon JPN. (JPN=Pentagon Army Heliport)
1216: RED or RAT (sounds like) 41 calling "Any Metro" on «344.6»
1220: Helo 325 with Aberdeen Range «248.4» mentions overflying the ballistics range and then down the river and back to the firing line for ballistics.
1229: Helo 325 now up to 3500 feet and still overflying Aberdeen Range.. «248.4» Still talking about coming out around the firing line.

1303: HAWK 32 calling Leesburg Radio several times on FSS «255.4» No reply so he calls "Any Radio." Still gets no reply so he switches to the VHF FSS freq «122.2» where he reports departing N95 (N95=Carlisle Barracks Heliport in Carlisle PA) and heading for Langley (LFI). He also makes contact with Williamsport Radio on this freq. (I have no listing for a helo using this callsign.)
1304: Flight of F-16s up from Andrews on tac «143.6». Appears to be a flight of two. Callsign WILD also with TRACON «348.725» and then over to ZDC-Calvert «281.4»
1308: WILD flight to Pax Approach «305.2» to work for 45 minutes. From there it's over to BayWatch on «354.8»
1308: Meanwhile, another F-16 flight is off Andrews on tac «139.15» and to Reagan TRACON «348.725» for their climbout. Callsign ANGRY. Switch to ZDC-Calvert «281.4» at 1312. This is also a flight of two F-16s. From this freq it's over to Pax Approach «305.2» and then to BayWatch «354.8»
Believe these two DC-ANG F-16 flights are going to work in area R-6609. At least they mentioned being at a point 10 miles north of 6609.....Nope, they are at the usual Pax Range working the simulated Iraqi landscape beginning at CP Charlie.

1340: (Out of time for logging...back later. The two Andrews F-16 flights still at Pax.)

 

[n3bxv]

1135: The Northrup-Grumman test flight is FAA registration number N168W. He calls base on «123.225» to report, "Coming down the hill." (He uses that term often but I'm not sure if he means he's coming back to base or descending when he uses it.)

Another thought (I seem to have a lot of these) -- The Northrup Grumman Ramp is actually quite a bit lower (relatively) than the BWI Runaways and Taxiways and acessed down a long descending taxiway, could he be indicating that he's entering the N/G Ramp area? Are you close enough to be hearing him on the ground at BWI?

 

[TinEar]

Another thought (I seem to have a lot of these) -- The Northrup Grumman Ramp is actually quite a bit lower (relatively) than the BWI Runaways and Taxiways and acessed down a long descending taxiway, could he be indicating that he's entering the N/G Ramp area? Are you close enough to be hearing him on the ground at BWI?

Yes, I'm close enough to hear him on the ground. However, when he used that term today (and previous uses) he was airborne and still in the Pax River area. I seem to think he's using it as jargon to mean a combination of heading back to the BWI area and descending from his mission altitude. Strictly a guess based on where he is in his mission when I've paid close enough attention to realize what he's doing. Just about every time I hear him active, I also hear that term used at some point. Or perhaps it's a combination of coming home and developed from the fact that he's got to "come down the hill" to get back to his spot at BWI.

1925: Had a U/I aircraft to Giant Killer on «238.1» mention he's heading for refueling in AR-636 in altitude block 24-27,000 feet. Haven't managed to hear any activity on any of the refueling freqs yet.

2024: Warren Grove Range «283.1» active.
2047: BATON 55 (EC-130J 193rd SOG, PA-ANG Harrisburg) with Giant Killer on «135.725»

2100: U/I callsign for a flight of CT-ANG A-10s leaving Warren Grove Range and heading home to Bradley with ZNY-Shipbottom «307.8» at altitude 11,500 feet. (Should have been HEAT or KILLER who were both noted active by a MilAir listener in western MA. Both flights, along with CORVETTE, might have been at Warren Grove.)
2121: Now have a CORVETTE 1 flight of A-10s from the CT-ANG going home to Bradley from the Warren Grove Range with ZDC-Shipbottom «307.8». This flight will be at just 10,500 feet. Won't hear them for long.
2133: Aerial refueling (very weak) on «228.0»
2133: _____ 62 with ZDC-Irons «360.85» (Sounds like TOGA 62. If so, its a KC-10A from the 79th ARS, Travis AFB, CA.) He's at FL 290.
2150: Aerial refueling activity on «238.9». No callsigns heard.

 

[n3bxv]

2100: U/I callsign for a flight of CT-ANG A-10s leaving Warren Grove Range and heading home to Bradley with ZNY-Shipbottom «307.8» at altitude 11,500 feet.

These are probably the guys I'm hearing on 138.825 A/A

 

[TinEar]

From 1015 to 1040 heard Navy F/A-18 fighters in air combat maneuvers on the «365.7» freq. This group was using callsign RAGE. That should make them from VMFA-321 (MAG-49, Detachment A) at Andrews AFB MD.
Last time this freq was noted, it was DOG fighters that turned out to be SALTY DOGs.
Around 1043 the RAGE fighters are again starting another ACM.

1041: BRAVE 61 from Andrews scrambled...working with HUNTRESS on «139.7» chasing down a Learjet 35. I'm hearing HUNTRESS loud and clear but not the BRAVE F-16.
1045: BRAVE 61 was just taking off...caught him on Reagan TRACON «348.725» in climbout...he then switches to «139.7» Says he needs to fly west for about 150 miles «348.725» to a TOI. Climbing to 15,000 feet at 400 knots. It's a two ship along with BRAVE 62.
1048: BRAVE 61 calls CAPITOL and says to switch to Victor Secure...then all I hear is bursts of static as they transmit in secure mode «139.7»
1050: BRAVE flight with TRACON «348.725» and then with HUNTRESS «139.7» again in the clear as they continue their climbout and get directions to the target.
1053: HUNTRESS asks both BRAVE fighters if their weapons are on "safe." They affirm they are. «139.7»
1054: HUNTRESS asks the BRAVE flight if they can use freq 228.9 since he doesn't know how long he can maintain comms on this Victor freq. «139.7» BRAVE wants bogey dope on the target before they change. They get it and then say to standby for frequency change.
1056: BRAVE flight comes up on «228.9» but I no longer can hear the HUNTRESS ground station.
(Not sure what they're doing now...had that one transmission by the BRAVE fighters at 1056 and then everything got silent. They haven't gone back to 139.7 or anywhere else I can find. I'm assuming they're too far out - he did mention 150 miles west shortly after climbout - and down low as the reason I no longer hear them.) Time now 1104.
1105: BRAVE 61 says they're at 9500 feet...then fades...then says there are at least two people moving in and out of the cockpit and cycling into and out of the cabin. «228.9» There is more chat over the next couple of minutes but is just too weak to understand.
1109: BRAVE 61 announces, "Endex, endex." «228.9» (Meaning end of exercise....damn, it sure sounded real for awhile there.)
1109: HUNTRESS calling BRAVE 61 on «139.7» with no reply.
1110: BRAVE 61 tells 62 to go to 264.1 Uniform and 139.7 Victor...hear voice on «139.7» with HUNTRESS where they say they need to burn off gas for a bit. BRAVE 61 then calls 62 on «264.1» (I have no idea who/what belongs to 264.1)
1116: BRAVE 61 reports back on «139.7» (Didn't hear him on any other freq including the 264.1.)
Oops...he was with TRACON on «257.2»
1119: BRAVE 61 says they'll just fly and burn off gas «139.7»
1120: BRAVE 61 tells HUNTRESS the Learjet isn't talking to anyone. BRAVE is going to Nottingham to hold and burn off their extra gas. «139.7» (That transmission about the Learjet not talking to anyone makes me wonder if this wasn't a real intercept and the "Endex" simply meant their mission was ending rather than it being just a test exercise.)
1122: BRAVE 61 flight with Reagan TRACON «257.2»
1125: BRAVE 61 tells HUNTRESS that 62 will land first and will RTB in about two minutes...both F-16s are Code 1...wants permission to change to SOF 139.9. HUNTRESS gives it. «139.7»
1129: BRAVE 62 with TRACON «257.2» to make initial approach to the runway at Andrews.
1136: BRAVE 61 still on «139.7» as he continues to fly circles burning off gas.
Since the BRAVE flight is landing or preparing to land, I'm not logging anything further since there is so much other activity to listen to and I need the radios. I'm keeping one on them just in case but expect nothing else will happen. BRAVE 61 is still flying around as of 1156 and still on «139.7» but changes to Andrews low approach on «335.5» and prepares to land. At 1159, BRAVE 61 changes to Andrews Tower on «349.0», lowers his landing gear and heads for the runway. Touchdown at high noon.

While all the above was going on, I heard a couple of flights with Leesburg Radio on FSS freqs. PAT 56 was on «255.4» and OTIS 05, who IDed as a C-130I was on «122.2» (NOTE: There should be no such model as a C-130I but he said it pretty clearly. The OTIS callsign should make him a Marine tanker from Cherry Point.)

1104: DEVIL 01, flight of two, (F-16 NJ-ANG Atlantic City) with ZDC-Casino «285.4», then ZDC-Coyle «254.3», then ZDC-Salisbury «257.7» and on tac «138.425» (Paying attention to the BRAVE flight, I lose track of the DEVILs but they are still on tac 138.425 chatting about buying homes on the water on the Delaware coast. Still going at 1116.)
1119: DEVIL tells ZDC-Salisbury «257.7» they're going to move into a two mile trail due to weather.
1121: DEVIL 01 flight handed off to the new ZDC freq «235.625» where they check in at FL 260. (This was a handoff from Salisbury.)
1123: Leesburg Radio talking to HAWK 30 on FSS «255.4» (This is probably another helo such as the HAWK 32 heard yesterday.)
1127: DEVIL 01 flight handed off to ZDC-Montebello «284.7» where they check in.
NOTE: For ID purposes, the flight went from ZDC-Salisbury to ZDC 235.625 and then to ZDC-Montebello. Lets get an ID on this turkey.
1127: SPADE 81, flight of two, with Quantico Base Ops on «355.3» (I miss most of their transmission while listening to others.) The only listing I have for this callsign is for F-16s from Shaw. I don't believe these are F-16s...believe they are F/A-18s.
1134: Have U/I aircraft on «277.6» and ???? 71 calling HUNTRESS on «254.2» Callsign is BADGER 71. It's a flight of four aircraft. The 277.6 traffic is constant but just too weak to pull anything out although someone called HUNTRESS there also.
1142: PECOS 85, single F-15 (Langley), into Giant Killer's area on «238.1»
1145: Callsign on «277.6» is PECOS. Hearing PECOS 1 and 2 at a minimum.
1146: The BADGERs with HUNTRESS on «254.2» are in air combat maneuvers. No firm ID on this callsign yet. I have it only for units that seem improbable for this area. They sound very much like F-15s. If the F-15s from Idaho are deployed to Langley, it would work.
1153: PECOS 83 comes up on «277.6» It's probably a PECOS 81 flight of four aircraft - and maybe five if PECOS 85 joined them that was heard with GK earlier.
1156: PECOS 85 on «277.6» so that is the answer to the above supposition.
At "noon-oh-five," the BADGER and PECOS flights are still working «254.2» and «277.6» in air combat and still working with HUNTRESS. I'm thinking they are working against each other rather than intraflight exercises.

Break time....back in a bit.
Came back at 1230 and heard nothing further on 254.2/277.6. Hearing nothing else either. All quiet in the MilAir world. Think I'll go plant something.

 

[Mark]

Rgr Tin I believe VFMA-321 HELLS ANGELS was disbanded a couple years ago.Sounds like another group possibly with that callsign.As far as i know there are no longer any Marine F-18's stationed around here.

Mark

 

[TinEar]

I didn't think there were either Mark. But their web site shows MAG-49, Detachment A still at Andrews and Detachment B at Stewart NY. I suppose they might have just abandoned their web site but that isn't like the military to do something like that. There were lots of news stories in the past that showed them deactivated in September 2004. This is their site....
http://www.mfr.usmc.mil/4thmaw/mag49/units.htm

The following is under the "History" link at their site....

Today, MAG-49 consists of a MAG Headquarters and HMH-772 at NAS Willow Grove, PA; MAG-49 Detachment A and VMFA-321 at Andrews Air Force Base, MD; MAG-49 Det B, VMGR-452 and MALS-49 at Stewart NY; and HMLA-775 Det A at Johnstown, PA.

P.S. I tried to send the Marines an email to ask about VMFA-321 and that web site, however, you need a password to send them email. Hoo-ahh!

1302: Navy 692 into Pax area with Approach on «305.2» and then BayWatch «354.8» to work from 12 to 17,000 feet.
1305: WILD flight of F-16s airborne from Andrews with TRACON «348.725» and tac «143.6» Flight of two.
1307: WILD flight to ZDC-Swann «360.7» and then to ZDC-Coyle «254.3» at FL 210. No reply so back to Swann and then again to 254.3.
1309: ANGRY flight airborne from Andrews with TRACON «348.725» and report airborne at 09 to SOF on «139.9» Tac is «139.15»
1312: ANGRY to ZDC-Swann «360.7»
1312: WILD handed off to ZDC-Sea Isle «281.45»
Both WILD and ANGRY are two ship flights.
1314: ANGRY flight handed to ZDC-Coyle «254.3»
1317: WILD flight handed off to Giant Killer on «255.0» (Another instance of my PRO-2042 failing me. The flight is loud and clear on the BC785D and just static on the 2042.)
1321: ANGRY flight of two handed to ZDC-Sea Isle «281.45» where they check in at FL 210.
1323: ANGRY flight handed to GK on «255.0» where they check in as a two ship and say they'll be working with the WILD flight. (This flight copied weakly on the 2042 and blasting on the 785. Lose them after a minute on the 2042...still great on the 785. The 2042 was, and still is, a good MilAir receiver but doesn't have great sensitivity. If they're close, it's great.)
1328: ANGRY/WILD to «337.225» to work.
1345: WILD flight still chatting away on tac «143.6» ANGRY is being heard occasionally on tac «139.15»
1351: WILD flight to SOF «139.9» with mission results and report both are Code 1.
1354: ANGRY flight with GK on «255.0» (believe they're clearing out of his area.)

1401: WILD flight to Reagan TRACON «270.275» to approach Andrews for landing. Field in sight.
1403: There are a bunch of news copters checking in with Andrews Tower on «118.4» for an incident northwest of the field. Not monitoring PD bands so don't know what this is about. (See note below.)
1404: WILD to Andrews Tower «349.0» for landing.
1408: DC 42 tanker from the 756th at Andrews arriving home with LIBERATOR on squadron freq «351.2»
1410: ANGRY flight on the way home «139.15»
1413: VA-ANG F-16s up on tac «141.875» Callsign SLAM
1415: SLAM 31 flight with Norfolk TRACON «370.925»
1416: DC 42 with Andrews Tower «118.4»
1418: SLAM 31 flight checks into Giant Killer's area on «249.8» for work.
1420: ANGRY flight does the ATIS and SOF routines prior to landing.
1423: SLAM, flight of three, also on «141.6» along with a BASH flight. Believe 141.6 is V-18 and 141.875 is V-15 according to their chat. BASH will work V-18 and SLAM V-15.
1424: BASH 51 flight with Norfolk TRACON «370.925»
(Haven't heard much from the VA-ANG F-16s in recent weeks.)
1427: BASH 51, flight of three, over to GK on «238.1» to enter the area for work. Say they'll work in W-386 with the SLAM flight.
1429: ANGRY flight to TRACON on «270.275» to approach the field...have field in sight.
WILD, ANGRY, SLAM, BASH -- it tells a story.
1431: ANGRY, two ship flight, 8 miles out, formation landing as reported to Andrews Tower on «349.0»
1433: ANGRY reports gear down, full stop for two (F-16s), left. «349.0» Formation landings are neat to watch.
1440: _____ 81 into GK's area on «238.1» for work.
1442: Navy refueling freq «123.525» active. Mention working BayWatch area.
1443: Langley tac «358.85» active.
1457: BASH/SLAM leaving W-386 «238.1»

1501: BASH flight with VA-ANG Command Post «289.3»
1505: BASH 51 flight with Nofolk TRACON (West) «360.6» (370.925 is East and much more used.)

From another source....Wildcats reported around the Andrews AFB area. Elementary schools have been closed in the area. That's what all the news helicopters were converging on the area for mentioned above at 1403. Also just had a U/I aircraft with Andrews Approach on 119.3 reporting cougars all over the area. Cougars? Wildcats?
Children being kept at the schools and not allowed to walk home. Parents must pick up.
http://www.wusatv9.com/
Air Force Security Police and PG County Animal Control are supposedly searching for the wildcats, cougars, panthers, mountain lions (yes, all four have now been reported) around the West gate of Andrews where they were last seen.
Personally, I'd guess it's only a pack of D.C. rats that has gone to the suburbs for the day.
Checking the PG police freqs...have scads of units rushing to L Street and 58th at the park for some incident. Don't know if it's related. PG 3 on 495.1375. It's at Addison and L. Apparently, this was a 10-13 and not wild animals - just human wild animals. Arrests made. While rushing to the scene, unit 3G1 had a "departmental" but no one injured. He took out a civilian's vehicle. Actually, PG 4 Oxon Hill on 495.0875 would be the best bet but I'm not hearing anything related there.

Okay, it's 1530 and I'm done logging. Nothing of interest flying at the moment, the weather is amazing and I can't find a reason to sit inside for another minute. I'll sling my AR-15 over my shoulder while I mow the grass - just in case.

 

[Mark]

Yeah don't know why they leave that MAG-49 website active.No doubt they are long gone.
Even Global Security com doesn't have that info updated course much of their info is outdated.
a couple other links telling of their demise...

http://www.vmfa-321.com/ 61 Years of Service to our Nation • Gone But Not Forgotten


http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0IAX/is_2_87/ai_n12412936

Once in a great while will get other VFMA F-18 visitors into Willow Grove from the deep South but not much else.

PS: Funny story on those Wildcats...couple years ago was a possible wayward Cougar in Delaware and media went bananas! Acted like King Kong was on the loose!

Mark

 

[scansomd]

139.7 Mhz - AM or FM?

Tinear, was that in AM or FM?

 

[TinEar]

The 139.7 freq used for the BRAVE scramble was AM. Always AM for aircraft with the one exception being the 34-42 mHz FM freqs infrequently used by the A-10s in this area.

 

[TinEar]

All during the 1100 hour there has been an exercise involving Langley fighters - both F-22A and F-15 - and a DARKSTAR E3 aircraft from Tinker AFB OK. There is a flight of four HOVER F-22A aircraft involved. They are working 233.525 as their air-to-air freq and are with DARKSTAR on 315.85. The HOVER flight leader mentioned a SALTY callsign but I don't think that's enough to put SALTY on the F-22A list of callsigns. There is also an IRON 81 flight from Langley which I think, based on transmitter sounds and terminology, are F-15s. They are being controlled by DARKSTAR on 312.3.
I've also heard Langley tac freq 358.85 active. At one point, the HOVERs talked about refueling and I have tanker interplane freq 139.875 very busy.
At 1156, the HOVER flight just came up on 312.3 with DARKSTAR and mentioned a flight of three aircraft, two of which they just killed.
DARKSTAR has been working with Giant Killer on 255.0.

At 1211, some of the Langley flights are clearing out of Giant Killer's area on 238.1 and heading back to Langley. At the same time, DARKSTAR tells GK on 255.0 that the HOVER 31 and 32 are returning to Langley and are currently 59 miles out. No mention made of HOVER 33 and 34. Over on 312.3, DARKSTAR tells HOVER flight to contact GK on 238.1.
At 1216, DARKSTAR tells GK on 255.0 that HOVER 33 and 34 will RTB and will contact him on 238.1. He then goes over to 312.3 to instruct 33/34 to do that very thing. Which they do. All the HOVERS are still on their air-to-air freq 233.525 and report around the HEELS area.
DARKSTAR reports he's working from the W-107 area which explains why he's on 255.0 with Giant Killer. Some of these other aircraft were apparently also in that area which is kind of far from home for Langley aircraft. The IRON flight says they are going to the W-386 area to burn off some gas before returning to Langley. It was also reported the HOVER and SALTY flights would form a six ship flight to return to Langley. That's more evidence that SALTY is an F-22A callsign.
At 1223, DARKSTAR says they are going to RTB and thanks Giant Killer for the work. That definitely puts an ending on the exercise if all the returning aircraft didn't.
And that's the end of this log for now....except to say there's a RAVEN 1 A-10 flight returning to MTN on Tower freq 297.2 at 1228. I was only tracking the Langley fighter exercise so have no idea where these guys were.

P.S. ?PIXIE? 50 (C-130E Peterson AFB CO) with Langley Metro on 239.8 at 1233 asking for Tinker AFB weather at 1900Z and Barksdale AFB at 2100Z. (At first I thought that was the DARKSTAR front end but apparently not.) At the same time, Langley tac 228.175 heard active. I'm still done for now.

 

[Mark]

Tin I heard L+C here as SENTRY 50 req wx for Barksdale,Tinker etc.I think your first guess
was right as DARKSTAR rtb.

a couple others later this evening...

EXPO 81 KC-135 departing somewhere 1805z
REACH 8052 C-17 depart Dover 1846z 349.400
BLUE 28 tanker offshore NJ Sea Isle with Huntress 364.200 mode check 1954z
EVAC 33119 C-17 arrive Andrews 2037z
REACH 1192 C-17 arrive Andrews 2210z
REACH 419 C-130 #86-0419 Pittsburgh ANG arrive McGuire 319.400 to pick up
a few aero-med crew.

Nice to see that Andrews has UHF CP 378.100 in better working order but not great yet.

Mark

 

[TinEar]

Good catch Mark. I guess I was suffering callsign overload at the time. I was even trying to hear "SENTRY" since I figured it was front end DARKSTAR but my ears wouldn't cooperate. Sometimes there's a downside to listening to too many radios at once when the environment turns into just noise with too many speakers.

Yes, there has been a significant improvement on the Andrews CP 378.1 freq. It had gotten so bad that they weren't even hearing aircraft immediately after takeoff. It turned out to be a bad reciever which they replaced. At the same time, they increased their output power by adding a Linear Power Amplifier to their transmitter bringing it from 10 to 50 watts output.

NOTE: Off topic but the Prince George's County Police are working a call about three big black "cats" reported seen by a citizen. It's the Palmer Park District 3 channel on 495.1375. It's a followup to the wildcats they were chasing yesterday near Andrews AFB. The mobile unit that took the call said he was too busy with other things to chase down cats and he'd respond later to the call.

 

[JackTV]

Brave flight is up

Hey All,
Picking up Brave flight & Huntress on 139.7
Huntress is coming in pretty good up here in Baltimore.
12:28- Brave just told to push 124.775 for Huntress


Jack

 

[TinEar]

Jack, what happened on 124.775? I know that freq belongs to ZDC-Casino but it's very unusual for them to be sent to a VHF freq for Center - especially one so far out of their normal area. I think you're saying they were sent to that frequency to contact HUNTRESS rather than Center, right? That would put them way to the north. Was the mission a scramble for an intruder into the ADIZ or just an exercise?

Alan

 

[JackTV]

Tin,
I could hear Huntress on 139.7 he then told the fighters to go to 124.775.
Once the fighters went there one of the jets said he had Huntress 5x5. I heard nothing from Huntress. They went back to 139.7. I do not know if it was a scramble or excercise.
I turned on the radio and they were there.

Jack

 

[TinEar]

Okay, thanks Jack. Guess they were just doing a radio check on that freq for whatever reason. HUNTRESS often sends CAP aircraft around the dial checking various frequencies. I just thought it was really unusual to go to a VHF Center freq and thought something unusual might be happening. Apparently not.

 

[JackTV]

143.25

I have someone on 143.25
sounds like A-10's
I have alot of NOISE right now. Could be electrical

Jack

 

[TinEar]

1927: SALTY DOG 121 with ZDC-Calvert «281.4» descending from 23,000 to 13,000 and then 10,000. Handed off to Pax Approach 281.8.
SALTY DOG=Air Test and Evaluation Squadron 23 (VX-23). We've been calling these SALTY DOG aircraft as part of the Strike Aircraft Test Squadron but the name was changed.
1929: SALTY DOG 121 with Pax «281.4»

 

[Mark]

PA ANG A-10's busy tonite ,heard FLYER 41 depart range 237.200 then Philly appch
263.1250 then Willow grove GCA 266.800 and quick message to CP 343.000.

CADE 41 two A-10's first heard on 281.520 then range freq,also A/A 141.800 then
mentoned switch to 46.75 for local ops then lost them.

I have 281.520 as ZDC... Is this correct?

Mark