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Just had a hit on ZDC 290.4750 flt of 2 for flyby.I have that as around Annapolis area.

Mark, Its actually a Potomac TRACON freq for BWI - Did you catch any callsigns?
 

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1957: CRAB 53 (C-130J, MD-ANG Warfield ANGB) to Crab Ops on «385.9» to report airborne time as 50 past the hour. He actually makes contact with someone on this freq although I couldn't hear the ground station. This is the first time I've heard someone get a response on this freq in a very long time. The only difference is that the ground controller used to be loud and clear from my location and now I'm deaf to it - at least this time.

2025: Presidential Air Fleet Support freq 136.725 active....lead aircraft giving weather report as he approaches Andrews.
2033: The aircraft are around MANNE at this time per traffic on 136.725.
2035: Air Force 1 with ZDC-Casanova «133.2» dodging weather around Linden.
2035: Army 10301 with ZDC-Casanova «133.2»
2041: AF 1 asks SAM lead which runway they're landing on...reply is runway 1L. «136.725»
2048: There's a MARLIN 500 with Andrews Approach on «119.3» (Anyone know who this callsign belongs to? I've got a MARLIN with a three digit suffix in my callsign database that shows...."EL PASO EPIC INTEL CENTER" but I have no idea what that is. That one was MARLIN 395.)

(I might have missed Air Force 1 landing at Andrews. Enjoying the Red Sox-NY Mets baseball game and forgot about the radios.)

2111: Army 10301 with Andrews Approach «119.3» in the pattern.
2126: Tac freq 138.875 active...probably NJ-ANG F-16s.....It's AERO 22 with HUNTRESS confirming NJ-ANG. There's also an AERO 21 involved. Believe the HUNTRESS activity is simulated. Two F-16s doing ACM.
2137: AERO 21 and 22 still in ACM activity with a simulated HUNTRESS controller. «138.875» No indication given where they might be operating but it's not close to this area based on signal strength.
2140: There is another pair of NJ-ANG Atlantic City F-16s on tac «138.425» in ACM activity...callsign BICEP. This pair is simulating a DARKSTAR AWACS controller.
2143: AERO 21 with Giant Killer on «255.0» to announce RTB in five minutes. (They must be up in the W-107 area.)
2153: Activity has ended on both NJ-ANG tac freqs....I assume they checked out of Giant Killer's area and headed for home. They must just be too low to be in listening range now.
2156: Briefly heard the AERO pair talking about changing to Uniform-6 freq on their way home. U-6 is ACY Approach on 327.125. «138.875»

(Also listening to FDNY from the Bronx/Staten Island Borough freq 154.19. Conditions good at the moment.)

(Ref below): Thanks Chuck. I should have known you'd find it. Interesting...of course they've got to have their own air fleet. It's only money...yours and mine.
 
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TinEar said:
2048: There's a MARLIN 500 with Andrews Approach on «119.3» (Anyone know who this callsign belongs to? I've got a MARLIN with a three digit suffix in my callsign database that shows...."EL PASO EPIC INTEL CENTER" but I have no idea what that is. That one was MARLIN 395.)

"EL PASO EPIC INTEL CENTER" = http://www.dea.gov/programs/epic.htm

Should be an E-4B on the way -" Lana 28" departed Patrick AFB earlier, headed this way..(Info from another list)

2156 <119.3><118.4> Biscayne 625 inbound Andrews (Miami Air International 737, probably the Press Plane) BTW - I'm hearing Tower side comms this evening...

2223 <283.75> One sided chat - I have this as 457 Airlift Squadron Ops freq. Any clues?
 
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Re: MARLIN 500

n3bxv said:
Quote:Originally Posted by TinEar
2048: There's a MARLIN 500 with Andrews Approach on «119.3» (Anyone know who this callsign belongs to? I've got a MARLIN with a three digit suffix in my callsign database that shows...."EL PASO EPIC INTEL CENTER" but I have no idea what that is. That one was MARLIN 395.)

Hi there Tin!

MARLIN 500 is the static callsign for an Aero Commander 500 operated by Chantilly Air out of HEF. The registration escapes me right now, but I'll try and find it for you if you're interested.

In addition, the following callsigns belong to other Chantilly Air owned or managed aircraft:

MARLIN 24 = LJ24E N207RG
MARLIN 35 = LJ35A N326HG
MARLIN 60 = LJ60 N60MG
MARLIN 61 = LJ60 N238BX
MARLIN 62 = LJ60 N424KW
MARLIN 63 = LJ60 N424MW [has N422CR reserved]
MARLIN 64 = LJ60 N459SF
MARLIN 66 = LJ60 N226SF

Best regards,

Tony
 
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Back in action again after a few days away due to family concerns.

Not much so far this morning, and for some reason I'm not getting good reception so far.

1145Z 120.1 IAD TWR East - ASCOT 2112 (VC10 XR80) - lands rwy 1R parks signature J1.
1311Z 139.4 Davison AAF Ops - PAT 432 (C-12) - arr msg ETD 1500L.
1328Z 126.3 Davison AAF TWR - NAVY 7W 428 (UC-12B NAS Willow Grove) - deps rwy 14 QSY 124.0. Where's 118.95?
1353Z 119.3 Potomac APP - VENUS 22 () - cleared for the TACAN app to ADW 1L.

1405Z 126.3 Davison AAF TWR - PAT 095 (?) - deps rwy 14 QSY 124.0.
1440Z 378.1 SAM CP Andrews - VENUS 32 () - arr msg req parking and transport for pax and crew. Also mentions something about "special event parking".
1443Z 378.1 SAM CP Andrews - VENUS 22 () - arr msg status A2.
1445Z 118.95 Potomac DEP - EVAC 2192 (C-130E 72-1292 61st AS Pope - had this as Little Rock the other day but doh! It's Pope) - deps ADW.

1617Z 118.95 Potomac DEP - REACH 304T () - deps ADW; also passes dep msg to SAM CP Andrews on 378.1 @ 1620Z.
1618Z 126.3 Davison AAF TWR - NAVY 7C 934 (UC-12B NAS Oceana Norfolk Flt. Det.) - lands rwy 32. [deps rwy 32 @ 1646Z QSY 124.0 dir GRUBY].

1705Z 349.0 Andrews AFB TWR - ANGRY 1 (F-16C/D 121st FS DC ANG) - on the ILS 1L low app.
1705Z 118.95 Potomac DEP - MARINE 474 (UC-35D 166474) - deps ADW.
1734Z 257.2 Potomac DEP - YANKEE 33 (?) - climbing out of ADW - missed the QSY.
1742Z 284.7 ZDC-Montebello - YANKEE 33 () - found him here.
1742Z 139.4 Davison AAF Ops - PAT 1268 (C-12T 85-1268) - req fuel and fixed-wing parking. Tail # 268. [126.3 - lands rwy 32 @ 1758Z].
1753Z 126.3 Davison AAF TWR - HAWK 30 (???) - helo arrives heliport rwy 32.

1801Z 349.0 Andrews AFB TWR - ANGRY 2 (F-16C/D 121st FS DC ANG) - in the break now, will descend.
1805Z 349.0 Andrews AFB TWR - BULLY 1 (F-16C/D 121st FS DC ANG) - "established high key".
1813Z 349.0 Andrews AFB TWR - BULLY 1/2 (F-16C/D 121st FS DC ANG) - 7 nms. SE for the straight in visual app to 1L.
1821Z 126.3 Davison AAF TWR - FOX 626 (UC-12) - reports inbound at DAVEE for rwy 32. I'm out the door! [unfortunately was not readable and neither was PAT 432...].
1852Z 327.0 ZDC-Brooke - GATOR 55 () - up here.
1855Z 139.4 Davison AAF Ops - PAT 2401 (C-12T 85-1268) - steamed about abt FOX 66 being refueled before them. Requests fueling supervisor come out to the ramp.

1930Z 126.3 Davison AAF TWR - PAT 2401 (C-12T 85-1268) - evidently has comms issues with hot mike; on 118.95 squawk lost 7600 with stuck mike, thinks RTB is in order. On 229.4 on the other radio, full cockpit comms at the moment!
1930Z 126.3 Davison AAF TWR - PAT 432 (C-12) - deps rwy 32 QSY 118.95 then QSY 125.65.
1932Z 335.5 Potomac APP - GHOST 33 (???) - reqs vectors for the ILS 1L full stop. QSYs to TWR 349.0 and lands 1L.
1933Z 229.4 Davison AAF TWR - PAT 2401 (C-12T 85-1268) - lands rwy 32.

2009Z 139.4 Davison AAF Metro - ANVIS 22 (Be200 (C-12C) N321F) - receives update to wx rpt for Fort A.P. Hill AAF. PTD DAA 2020Z.
2020Z 121.9 Davison AAF GRND - ANVIS 22 (Be200 (C-12C) N321F) - clnc Davison-A.P.Hill-Davison.
2035Z 126.3 Davison AAF TWR - ANVIS 22 (Be200 (C-12C) N321F) - deps rwy 32 QSY 118.95.

2100Z 118.95 Potomac DEP - ROSS 623 (Ce750 N254CX) - deps DCA QSY 125.8 for HEF.
2100Z 118.95 Potomac DEP - REACH 8056 (KC-135R 58-0056 153rd ARS MS ANG) - deps ADW dir AML QSY 118.67.
2106Z 118.95 Potomac DEP - SWIFT 03 (C-21A 458th AS Scott AFB) - deps ADW and requests RTB ADW immediately.
2109Z 126.3 Davison AAF TWR - FOX 626 (UC-12) - deps rwy 32 QSY 118.95. Another one missed!
2112Z 119.3 Potomac ARR - SWIFT 03 (C-21A 458th AS Scott AFB) - direct OTT for holding S on the 180 radial, right turns, 10 mile legs.
2125Z 119.3 Potomac ARR - SWIFT 03 (C-21A 458th AS Scott AFB) - out of the hold after contacting SAM CP on 141.55 and 378.1 (could not read call other than something to do with a pax. Direct LDN then QSY 120.65.
2129Z 126.3 Davison AAF TWR - PAT 095 () - returns and lands rwy 32.
2130Z 141.55 SAM CP Andrews - NAVY 7W 428 (UC-12B 161511 NAS Willow Grove) - arr msg with A code pax drop off. Clarifies @ 2135Z: code A5 (two star) for drop off, tail # 161511.
2144Z 141.55 SAM CP Andrews - JOSA 002 (C-21A 84-0115 457th AS Andrews) - arr msg one Space A to off load parking 9 Row. ETA 15 mins.

2229Z 133.97 ZDC-Potomac - ARMY 90103 (UC-35B 99-0103) - FL320 req higher QSY 133.72.
2240Z 141.55 SAM CP Andrews - JOSA 038 (C-21A 84-0078) - arr msg status A1 no fuel.
 
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CitationJet said:
Hi there Tin!

MARLIN 500 is the static callsign for an Aero Commander 500 operated by Chantilly Air out of HEF. The registration escapes me right now, but I'll try and find it for you if you're interested.

In addition, the following callsigns belong to other Chantilly Air owned or managed aircraft:

MARLIN 24 = LJ24E N207RG
MARLIN 35 = LJ35A N326HG
MARLIN 60 = LJ60 N60MG
MARLIN 61 = LJ60 N238BX
MARLIN 62 = LJ60 N424KW
MARLIN 63 = LJ60 N424MW [has N422CR reserved]
MARLIN 64 = LJ60 N459SF
MARLIN 66 = LJ60 N226SF

Best regards,

Tony

Thanks Tony...much appreciated. That'll update one part of my callsign database.

P.S. All that IAD stuff has been sumbitted so the database here should be updated shortly.

Not much time for listening today but just in passing heard those ANGRY/BULLY flights out of Andrews that you posted. BULLY 2 was the new female pilot in the unit. Right after they landed, there was a BASH flight of F-16s from Richmond on 141.875 and am presently (1525) hearing a flight of A-10s from MTN on tac 142.3 getting raunchy with their conversations. Not sure if they're just heading out or returning to base but can't stay to listen.

1531: GHOST 33 trying to contact TRACON on 270.275 without success...sounds like he's coming into Andrews. He changes to 335.5 (as everyone seems to have to do recently) and begins a descent for Andrews.
I think the TRACON freq 270.275 is having the same type problem that 378.1 had a few months ago....a bad receiver.
1536: GHOST 33 to ADW Tower 349.0 for landing.
 
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Noise on 238.1 and other 238mhz freqs.

Is anyone else picking up strange noises on the 238mhz range?
It seems like it is a pulse noise.It is strong for a while and then it faids out.
It does not to be occuring on any other bands just the 238mhz area.
238.1
238.9
etc.
Added to below:
Actually I have been hearing these noises for the past couple of days.
Very weird!!!
I will try to post when I hear the noise
20:31- NOISE on 238.1
20:49 noise 238.15
20:56 238.175 noise
Something else strange: I get the noise on the LPA antenna but not on the Discone antenna

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Forgot to post this earlier. There will be a CAP this weekend - Saturday and Sunday - covering Thurmont.

NOTAM Number : FDC 6/1108 Issue Date : June 27, 2006 at 16:55 UTC Location : Hagerstown/Thurmont, Maryland near MARTINSBURG VORTAC (MRB) Beginning Date and Time : July 01, 2006 at 0:25 UTC Ending Date and Time : July 02, 2006 at 17:00 UTC Reason for NOTAM : Temporary flight restrictions for VIP (Very Important Person) Movement Type : VIP Replaced NOTAM(s) : N/A
Affected Area(s)

Airspace Definition:
TFR Center: 23.7 nautical miles from MARTINSBURG VORTAC(MRB) on the 055 radial (Latitude: 39º38'53"N, Longitude: 77º28'00"W)
Radius: 10 nautical miles
Altitude: From the surface up to but not including FL(180)
Effective Date(s):
July 01, 2006 at 0:25 UTC (June 30, 2006 at 20:25 EDT) - July 02, 2006 at 17:00 UTC (July 02, 2006 at 13:00 EDT)
 
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Watching the Red Sox-Mets game and decided to check the radios....Andrews F-16s up on tac 139.15 - at least I think it's Andrews but they're talking about Hopewell. They changed to tac 143.6 and are indeed mentioning that one of them is over Hopewell at this time. No telling where they're going.

Also have a BICEP flight of F-16s from NJ-ANG Atlantic city on tac 138.425. At least a flight of three aircraft.

2115: 139.15/143.6 is a WILD flight...now with SENATE SOF on 139.9 talking about bad weather in their path and that they may not be able to get around it. WILD flight leader also mentions a SCARY flight.
2116: Have a KC-135R tanker with LIBERATOR on squadron freq 351.2
2117: SCARY flight is on tac 143.6 and WILD on 139.15...SCARY telling WILD that they can indeed get around the weather near Hopewell. Says the routing just given by ZDC won't work. It'll put them through the thunderstorm.
2123: SCARY/WILD talking about doing a 360 due to weather. (Doesn't seem that'll get them too far.)
2125: SCARY/WILD with ZDC-Norfolk «327.8» (Looks like either a trip to the Dare County Range in NC or another long flight down to the Avon Park Bomb Range in Florida. They are getting weaker at this point and will no doubt fade away soon if they stay on their present course.)
I've got the ground controller on the Potomac TRACON (Reagan) 257.2 freq just booming in tonight. Been hearing him the past few days but this is the strongest yet. Of course, all the traffic is just simulcasting of his comms on the 118.95 VHF freq with commercial flights.
2130: The BICEP F-16s are in ACM activity probably up in area W-107. «138.425» (A minute or so later heard them giving their Codes for maintenance status indicating they were about finished and that was the last heard of them.)
2130: The SCARY/WILD flights are suddenly very strong again...wonder if they turned around? «139.15/143.6»
2135: WILD 1 with Giant Killer on «238.1» Makes contact after several tries.
2137: Giant Killer sends the WILD flight to operational freq 312.3 for their work. «238.1»
2145: Have a CRAB (missed suffix) C-130J with Crab Ops on «385.9» (Also hearing the security police at Martin State feeding through on this freq as I've mentioned in the past. It seems to happen occasionally for whatever reason.)
2154: WILD/SCARY F-16 flights still in ACM activity out in W-386 in Giant Killer's area. They're still using tac «139.15/143.6» and GK's ops freq «312.3»

2205: WILD flight leader announces they're starting their last ACM pass. «312.3»
2206: FORCE 05 (KC-10A, McGuire AFB NJ) with arrival message to McGuire CP...30 minutes out - landing 0235Z, A-2 maintenance status, zero pax or cargo, 45,000 pounds of gas aboard when touching down. «319.4»
2218: FORCE 05 with McGuire Metro on «239.8» asking if the thunderstorm is moving toward McGuire.
2220: SCARY flight with Giant Killer on «249.8» to clear out of W-386 at FL 230. (Loud and clear on my BC-785D, weak and unreadable on my PRO-2042...same antenna thru multicoupler.)
2225: SCARY flight handed off to ZDC-Cape Charles «256.8» where they check in in non-standard formation, 2-mile trail. Descend to 17000 and then 13000 at 2227.
2225: WILD flight to ZDC-Cape Charles «256.8» to check in.
2228: SCARY flight degoggles (or is it UNgoggles?) (NVG) «143.6»
2230: SCARY handed off to ZDC-Casino «285.4» and check in at 13,000.
2232: OPEC 49 (KC-10A McGuire AFB NJ) to McGuire CP with arrival message....30 minutes out, A-1.....parking in J-2 which he calls "Joker-2" received at 2239.
2233: SCARY flight to SOF on «139.9» Both report Code 1 and 69 miles out.
2234: WILD flight to ZDC-Casino «285.4» and check in at 10,000 feet.
2237: WILD flight to SENATE SOF on «139.9» with mission report, both aircraft are Code 2 for cockpit lighting. 10 minutes out.
2239: SCARY to Reagan TRACON «338.2» for approach to Andrews.
2240: WILD to BWI TRACON «317.425» for approach to Andrews.
2244: WILD handed off to Reagan TRACON «338.2»
2245: SCARY flight to ADW Tower «349.0» for landing.
2246: JOSA 538 (C-21) arrival message at Andrews. «141.55»
2251: WILD flight to ADW Tower «349.0» for landing.

2311: BOLAR 71 (C-5A or M, Dover AFB DE) calling Dover CP «349.4» 4x, no joy. Transmits in the blind....arrival message....25 minutes out, A-2 and has 72,000 pounds of cargo to offload so needs 3 drivers.
2315: BOLAR 71 still calling Dover CP but gets no response after several more calls. «349.4»
2318: BOLAR 71 finally makes contact with Dover CP and repeats the message...twice. «349.4»
2324: BOLAR 71 reports 45,000 pounds of fuel and 100% training complete...requests a crew bus. He's given parking in Yankee row. «349.4»
2327: BOLAR 71 says they'll download the plane themselves but do need the 3 drivers. «349.4»

During Exercise Northern Edge 2006 in Alaska in early June, the F-22 proved its mettle against as many as 40 "enemy aircraft" during simulated battles. The Raptor achieved a 108-to-zero kill ratio at that exercise....
http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,102916,00.html?ESRC=airforce-a.nl
 
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Thought I had a military helo flying northeast from Leesburg. Didn't hear anything though.

What I'm finding odd tonight is that with my BC250D with stock antenna I can hear TRACON perfectly on 254.25, but with my 396T and outdoor antenna on 123.825 I can't hear TRACON, but I do hear the aircraft. Any idea where the 254.25 transmitter is?

Also I figured out that LD thing I mentioned previously. They are actually refering to ELDEE which is basically right on top of ARMEL.
 

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Travis, the 123.825/254.25 pair should both be transmitting from somewhere on the Dulles airport property. I guess something could be wrong with the transmitter on the VHF side or they're transmitting at different power levels. Can you hear the 123.825 freq ground controller on your BC250?

ELDEE: 38-56-05.010N / 077-28-32.330W
ARMEL: 38-56-04.490N / 077-28-00.160W

(Ref below): That's strange. The 123.825 must be transmitting at low power.
 
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Travis, the 123.825/254.25 pair should both be transmitting from somewhere on the Dulles airport property. I guess something could be wrong with the transmitter on the VHF side or they're transmitting at different power levels. Can you hear the 123.825 freq ground controller on your BC250?

No matter what scanner/antenna combination I use, I can only hear the aircraft on 123.825. I hear ground controllers on other VHF channels just fine (IAD tower and ground, TRACON). Female controller on 120.45 tonight. Clearance is especially clear tonight too.
 

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Nighthawk flight

I had a visual of a Nighthawk circling over Silver Spring, MD about 8:30am as I was headed to work. It was last headed south over DC, but I didn't have my radio with me.
 

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1310Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - AIR FORCE ONE (VC-25A 89th AW Andrews) - deps ADW dir LDN QSY 118.675.
1356Z 284.700 ZDC-Montebello - SD 205 (Strike Air Test and Evaluation Squadron 23 [VX-23] NAS Patuxent River) - @ 16000'.

1410Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - REACH 346T (C-17A vis. conf.) - deps ADW dir LDN 15000'.
1424Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - BOXER 642 (201st AS DC ANG) - deps ADW dir LDN QSY 118.67.
1424Z 126.300 Davison AAF TWR - PAT 1268 (C-12T 85-1268) - lands rwy 32.

1540Z 335.000 Potomac ARR - BRAVE 61/62 (F-16 121ST FS DC ANG Andrews) - checking in @ 6000'. BRAVE 61 proceeding to holding off OTT.
1545Z 141.550 SAM CP Andrews - JOSA 362 (C-21A) - off ADW 1541Z DV late.
1546Z 378.100 SAM CP Andrews - SAM 0375 () - a/b msg 5 pax.

1931Z 133.975 ZDC-Potomac - NASA 529 (Be200 N529NA) - requesting clearance to fly to a point 4 nms. NW of BAL VOR. "That'll get us out of your hair and back to Newport News". Cleared R turn to Patuxent. Leaving FL280 for FL240 @ 1943Z. QSY 134.5 @ 1945Z.
1936Z 378.100 SAM CP Andrews - EVAC 33118 (C-17A 03-3118 MS ANG) - clg no joy.

2111Z 126.300 Davison AAF TWR - PAT 185 (pres. home-based C-12) - lands rwy 32 parking Guard ramp; close out.
2119Z 378.100 SAM CP Andrews - REACH 293T () - ETA ADW 2130Z status A1.
2134Z 126.300 Davison AAF TWR - PAT 1264 (C-12T 85-1264) - deps rwy 32 QSY 118.95/125.65.

2214Z 378.100 SAM CP Andrews - REACH 8020 (KC-135E 58-0020) - a/b ADW 2207Z.
2214Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - SAM 0358 () - deps ADW dir LDN QSY 118.67
2228Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - GHOST 33 () - deps ADW dir HAFNR QSY 343.7. On 284.7 @ 2232Z FL210. Gets direct CEW @ 2233Z.
2256Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - REACH 3118 (C-17A 03-3118 MS ANG) - deps ADW QSY 118.675.

Also had a FEUD (21?) up on 284.7 @ FL270 dir NAS Oceana @ 2315Z.

Off to BATON country for the weekend! See you Monday.
 
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Good Morning All,

1023: I have a SLUFF 62 (KC-135 Rickenbacker AFB, OH) in the DUKE MOA looking for RAVEN flight to do some refuelling work. He's been calling out on 301.60 since 1005.
1026: Good things come to those who wait. Ravens switch from 338.30 (ZNY) to 353.85 (ZOB) and requests Slate Run to enter the DUKE.
1027: Ravens push 301.60. SLUFF 62 contacts them on 301.60. SLUFF is in the middle of the MOA the RAVENS are about 30 miles south of Slate Run.
1033: Ravens at Slate Run and are intercepting the 335 Radial, entering the refuelling track.
1038: Raven 1 is 78-0719 and Raven 2 is 78-0682
1040: Raven 1 cleared up to 17,000 to refuel. Raven 1 passes on that they will be headed to R-5802 (Bollen) when they are done.

Haven't stumbled across their TAC Freq. I have one scanner sitting on 142.30 since that has been popular with them lately, but no joy.

1043: Raven 2 cleared up to refuel. Raven 1 requests that they keep the refuelling down at the southern end of the MOA to save some time.

On a side note...the tanker pilot sounds kind of perturbed. He must not have liked waiting for around for 25 minutes...

1047: Ravens are done. Contact ZNY on 338.30 and are headed for R-5802 at 15,000 feet.

They're all yours gentlemen...
Dave
 
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Sounds like some activity on
262.025 A/A
360.85
228.45- A/A
Possibly F-15's

Jack
 
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