The state of Tennessee Advanced Communications Network (TACN)

jblackst

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wdym by "hits"
As you're scanning the proper tower site, there will be traffic from lots of various agencies and users. The 'hits' you're looking for are 49843 / 49845, and like @buddrousa stated, it's likely that DeKalb County got a range of TGIDs in the 49840 area assigned. You'll also likely see traffic from THP and other local/area wide agencies that have radios affiliated with the tower you're scanning.
 

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Your Law is 100% Encrypted looks to be clear for EMS.
Mace Hill Tower Site, Cookville Tower Site, Lebanon Tower Site, and Watertown are the sites near you. Those are the TACN Sites that most likely carry your area traffic.
If I was a betting guy I would add 49840 to 49850 as you area would have those for other agencies to migrate to.

TN - DeKalb County (xx) - Public Safety​

6/24 - Reportedly in the process of migrating to TACN


DECHEXModeAlpha TagDescriptionTag
49843c2b3DESmithvillePoliceSmithville Police: DispatchLaw Dispatch
49845c2b5DDeKalb Co EMSCounty EMS: DispatchEMS Dispatch
if i just put in the TGID's and leave the frequencies as wildcard, will it automatically draw in the right frequencies if there is traffic?
 

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how can i find the sites?
The green dot approximates the center of DeKalb County, the blue dots are the adjacent tower sites. 1742586274803.png

From the Dekalb radio users perspective:
  • Mace's Hill tower sites are 30+ miles away, probably not going to have much DeKalb traffic on it. Same with Pikeville.
  • Cookeville, Sparta and Watertown are all about 20 miles from Dekalb and stand a better chance of having traffic affiliated on them.
  • Woodbury (01-70) is only 10 or so miles from DeKalb and would likely have the best chance of having DeKalb traffic affiliated.
  • Short Mtn (VHF) may or may not carry traffic, as I'm told the VHF sites are relics from the early days of TACN and are being converted to 700 MHz sites as the system expands. (i.e.: Chuck Swan VHF and 700 sites)
From the Carthage scanner users perspective:
  • Mace's Hill (02-73) is 10 miles NW of your general location
  • Watertown (01-69) is 16 miles SW of your general location
  • Woodbury and Cookeville sites are both 25+ miles away. That distance alone is nearly insurmountable and the terrain challenges wont help you any.
By comparing sites on the two lists above (and not knowing your specific scanner setup or location), I'd offer that the most likely site for your to scan is Watertown (01-69). The frequencies for that tower site are listed in the TACN System Page.

I'd start by referencing the instructions on your specific scanner, and refer to these previous posts: a post and another post.

Serious question: do you understand about how traffic affiliates to one site or another? Even if you can scan Mace's Hill, if there are no DeKalb units in the general area to affiliate (connect) to that specific tower site, there will be no DeKalb traffic to hear.

I'm seriously not talking down to you here (or anyone for that matter) but there seem to be a fair amount of misunderstanding among newer scanner users about how a massive multi-site trunked radio system work. For that matter, there are two distinctly different ways they can work, and that also causes confusion from time to time. Also, TACN is in the midst of a very massive tower site expansion project (something like an additional 125 towers in the next few years), so it's possible you might just be scanning around some time and find a new, previously unlisted site.

We're all wanting you to be successful here!
 

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Hey guys a friend who used to live in Humphrys County was asking me what the status was of their move off the Nexedge system. Since I am not over that way much I wanted to throw it to some of you that are. Are they moving or have moved to TACN or do you know?
 

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Hey guys a friend who used to live in Humphrys County was asking me what the status was of their move off the Nexedge system. Since I am not over that way much I wanted to throw it to some of you that are. Are they moving or have moved to TACN or do you know?
Hey guys a friend who used to live in Humphrys County was asking me what the status was of their move off the Nexedge system. Since I am not over that way much I wanted to throw it to some of you that are. Are they moving or have moved to TACN or do you know?
I spoke to a Kenwood Vender in Waverly a week ago who said he is installing a new multi site UHF Kenwood NXDN radio system for Humphreys Law Enforcement to replace the Homeland Security system. Unsure about the other disciplines in the county.
 

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TN - Medevac Helicopters



DEC HEX Mode Alpha TagDescriptionTag
138956dDLIFEFORCE OP1Erlanger Life Force: DispatchEMS Dispatch
139056eDLIFEFORCE TAC1Erlanger Life Force: Tac-1EMS-Tac
1392570DLIFEFORCE TAC2Erlanger Life Force: Tac-2EMS-Tac
139156fDLIFEFORCE MEDNETErlanger Life Force: Med NetHospital
48255bc7fDHighlands AirHighlands Emergency Air Rescue/TransportEMS Dispatch
47310b8ceDLIFESTAR AIR GRNUniversity of Tennessee Lifestar: Air-to-Ground DispatchEMS Dispatch
47311b8cfDLIFESTAR AIR AIRUniversity of Tennessee Lifestar: Air-to-Air Tac-1EMS-Tac
47312b8d0DLIFESTAR LANDINGUniversity of Tennessee Lifestar: Landing Zone Tac-2EMS-Tac
47313b8d1DLIFESTAR ADMINUniversity of Tennessee Lifestar: Ground Ops Admin/TalkaroundEMS-Talk
48250bc7aDVandr LifeFlightVanderbilt University Medical Center LifeFlight: Statewide OpsEMS-Tac
I need help finding the CC and the VC frequencies for 48250.
 

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EMS Common​


4049fd1DAirMed LZ MiddleAir Medical-Landing Zone Middle [LZ Middle (TN)]EMS-Tac
I need help finding the frequencies fot this as well.
 

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Mason, just like all the rest of TACN you must set it up as a system, load the control channel frequencies for your area, the set up talkgroups. ALL talkgroups require this process.
 

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We were all there at one point. Every single one of us.

Mason (and others that find themselves here)

  • Analog: old way of transmitting
  • Digital: new way of transmitting (remember when we all had to get boxes for the old tv's? Kind of like that. Notice how you have to have an XM/Sirius capable car radio and not just FM? Same thing)
  • Unencrypted: Audio you can understand
  • Encrypted: Audio that is intentionally garbled and you cannot understand, and generally cannot fix to be able to understand it.
  • Conventional: old way of communicating. Radio to radios close together, or radio to radios spread further out via a device called a repeater
  • Trunking: How TACN works. Instead of a small computer in a radio, now it is a networked computer system for audio over IP that just happens to have a wireless (radio) segment.

You have to have a digital, P25 Phase II capable appliance in order to monitor unencrypted channel TACN.

You will need to program several types of data for every tower you wish to receive from into your scanning appliance (hope you're not trying to alter an actual LMR transceiver for this purpose).

Once programmed, you or the scanner selects a tower, you will then receive everything that tower emits.

If you do not program the scanner exactly correct, either it will flat not work, or it will sort of work but be very frustrating.

If you bought the same kind of radio as the people you want to listen to, and you mess that up, you will interfere with the statewide system, and there are ways to figure out it is you.



If the stars align and miracles upon miracles occur, and you've gotten everything correct, from that point, then you can pick talkgroups you wish to monitor.

IF a authorized person's radio doesn't utilize the tower you are listening to, you will not be able to hear that talkgroup. Ever.

For instance, back in the beginning, there was a corrections supervisor that worked in one county, and lived in another county a couple hours drive. He took his radio home and listened. The people scanning his tower could hear prison talk... and there was no prison there.

Some counties are mountainous. So, you may be next door to both the stinky creek VFD AND a TACN tower, but because of the terrain, their stuff may prioritize another tower... and if that happens, you may not hear them.

If you are on an interstate, you may very well hear some crazy stuff as authorized users go to Nashville and back home, or depending on the TACN settings, even they may not be able to listen outside of their geofenced area.

So, there are no control or other frequencies that are slaved to a particular talkgroup in general. You pick the transmitting features and the channel lineup for the tower nearest you, then you can load the TG's of interest.

All of this falls apart when the entity starts using old interop channels, or elect to use old but still-licensed channels allotted to them for whatever reason. Or in-fight and choose to use a local system that isn't TACN.

There are scanning appliances that will program themselves, and there are people that will hammer out a fleetmap for your scanner for a price, some people are better than others at it.

Caveats: This is a general, wide overview discussion. It isn't meant to address all peculiarities. Do not develop heartburn, do not insert rectally, read the patient insert and call your prescribing tower monkey if side effects occur.


Good luck, this hobby used to be a lot of fun!
 
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