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TYT is hardly FPP. If you can get it to work...its a glitch ridden paperweight.

Motorola; "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten"
 

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In my case, I can not and will not spend that $ 100 more in something that has a technical service with a high price and have to pay license, with the 100 % increase can almost buy me another MD -380 . For those who started in DMR I think it's a great radio, later the monthly spend will think of a Motorola or similar.
 

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It has performed almost flawlessly (one small glitch with the volume setting showing up in the display sometimes when I change channels,
My Moto XPR7550, 3500, & 6550 all do this from time to time. Since they all do it, I won't send them back. Must be a glitch. If a Moto needs to be repaired, it goes to Mexico. If a CS700 needs to be repaired, it goes to California. If a MD380 needs to be repaired where does it go, since sending them back to China costs more than the radio with shipping & import tariffs. There is no repair center in the USA.
 

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My Moto XPR7550, 3500, & 6550 all do this from time to time. Since they all do it, I won't send them back. Must be a glitch. If a Moto needs to be repaired, it goes to Mexico. If a CS700 needs to be repaired, it goes to California. If a MD380 needs to be repaired where does it go, since sending them back to China costs more than the radio with shipping & import tariffs. There is no repair center in the USA.

probably because youre hitting the volume knob when turning the channel knob
 
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Folks, the topic of the thread is not how to get Motorola radios programmed.

I have top agree with moonboots. No one is specifically talking about how to program Motorolas. They were comparing both the CPS for the Moto, and the differences in programming. That is very much in line with this conversation. I by no means am trying to pick a fight with a moderator, but if I had butted in with that statement I would have been called a troll and received an infraction from the RR Police.
 

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probably because youre hitting the volume knob when turning the channel knob
Every time this happens, & it's not often, I immediately look at my hand, & the knobs, & no, as best I might have LIGHTLY touched the volume knob, but certainly did not turn it.
 

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Every time this happens, & it's not often, I immediately look at my hand, & the knobs, & no, as best I might have LIGHTLY touched the volume knob, but certainly did not turn it.
Mine does it too I figured I just touched the VOL knob. I don't think there is anything to be "fixed"

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Forum moderators here at RadioReference are charged with managing the forums, monitoring threads and individual posts, and occasionally jumping in to take action when threads go off in the wrong direction or the forum rules are violated.

I'm going to quote one of the forum rules:

6. Stay on topic. If the thread topic is about "Your Favorite HF Frequencies" and you jump in and post "What is the best HF Radio?" then you are just taking the thread into the weeds. Start a new thread if it isn't on topic for the existing one.

What does it mean to stay on topic? Primarily, if your post doesn't pertain to the topic of the thread, your post may be construed as off topic. For example, posting a message in this thread about how the MD380's features compare to other DMR radios is on topic. Or, posting a message in this thread about how programming an MD380 is more or less complicated than other DMR radios is on topic. OTOH, posting a message about how easy it is to use your shop's copy of the software to program a non-MD380 radio or how convenient it is to visit a friend who has the software for your non-MD380 radio is probably off topic for a thread about the MD380.

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Okay I have a important question for the RR members who would like to chime in on this...

The TYTERA MD-380 operates on both 5 watts UHF and VHF. Now that being said, is that 5 watts analog or 5 watts digital? Or both? From my understanding 1 watt digital equates to about 4 watts analog in a given scenario. So if that statement provides to be true the Tytera is outputting power of 20 watts analog in its digital mode? No? That can't be right. Let's clairfy this please cause I would like to know
 

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5 watts is 5 watts , you can't get a full watt reading on dmr because of the way it multiplexes but there is no difference between analog and digital


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DMR subscribers rapidly switch betwen transmit and receive when you push the PTT(the T in TDMA is for time. One radio transmits while the other receives then vise versa allowig two simultanious conversations on the two time slots.

Most power meeters will not respond quickly enough to get an accurate poser reading. As others have said. 5 watts is 5 watts.
 

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Now if 5 watts is the same on analog how come here is a difference between the analog power to digital in a sense of coverage. From what I've read elsewhere 4 watts of analog power equates approximately to 1 watt of digital power. If the coverage is the same between both analog and digital on DMR it just seems confusing to me. That's all.
 

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Are you confused as to the propagation of signals between digital verses analog ? There is a notable difference in how digital performs and how it travels because of data and wavelength, we may want to move this conversation to another forum


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Now if 5 watts is the same on analog how come here is a difference between the analog power to digital in a sense of coverage. From what I've read elsewhere 4 watts of analog power equates approximately to 1 watt of digital power. If the coverage is the same between both analog and digital on DMR it just seems confusing to me. That's all.
Generally speaking, transmissions from digital radios will be more readily understood over longer distances than similar transmissions from analog radios will, for the same level of output power.
 
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