Update From Whistler / Goliad Products LLC - March 6, 2025

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Goliad is an LLC, so there isn't nearly as much of that as you seem to believe.

As far as development speed, Todd didn't have a board of directors, stockholders, market analysts, middle managers, etc., to impede his progress.

Sole proprietorship/entrepreneurship has it's own problems, but they don't generally entail things like wasting half the morning answering the same questions as yesterday.
 

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Goliad is an LLC, so there isn't nearly as much of that as you seem to believe.

An irrelevant point, as it takes only one person that doesn't completely understand what you're trying to do to be an impediment.

Also, being a venture capital LLC, it's quite unlikely that any of them understand radios beyond turning it on in the car.
 

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One thing that might help and maybe they are already considering, but make a significant reduction in pricing on their current units when they become available. I believe their current website still shows old pricing which I contend is not at all competitive to Uniden feature or support wise. . I know others here will disagree but they need to get something going. I would assume they do not intend to live on the sales of the proposed 1000 units. I would even consider buying one if the price was right to dedicate to a specific function.
 

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" One thing that might help and maybe they are already considering, but make a significant reduction in pricing on their current units when they become available. I believe their current website still shows old pricing which I contend is not at all competitive to Uniden feature or support wise. ."
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:( IMHO wishful thinking, they want to make money after spending gobbs to acquire the name brand :(


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I wonder how much they paid and why there isn't any talk of radar detectors or Lidar jammers?

Separately, I wonder if there would be a market for a LSM capable scanner, but without all of the add on features of the SDS or x36HP scanners that Uniden has. Something more along the lines of a 325P2, but able to receive simulcast systems..

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:( IMHO wishful thinking, they want to make money after spending gobbs to acquire the name brand :(


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I wonder how much they paid and why there isn't any talk of radar detectors or Lidar jammers?

Separately, I wonder if there would be a market for a LSM capable scanner, but without all of the add on features of the SDS or x36HP scanners that Uniden has. Something more along the lines of a 325P2, but able to receive simulcast systems..
 

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:( IMHO wishful thinking, they want to make money after spending gobbs to acquire the name brand :(


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I agree, but it would be short sighted on their part not to modify pricing…. if they did reduce prices:

It would show good faith that they understood the age and lack of current features
They could clear out inventory since they are committed to the 1000 units
If they are hoping to make much back on these initial sales, they made a mistake purchasing the name to begin with…it’s the future that counts.
They would make customers happy who might then be more interested in any future newly designed units and who had given up on them when they disappeared, if for nothing more than the image it portrays.
I am sure they would still make money at a reduced price considering all development costs I would hope
were charged long ago
 

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Not gonna happen in the real world not where you live there is a large need for the TRX Scanner as is.
The Design Engineers are not going to work 1 year for free. The last time Whistler bought Scanner stock the cost was 10 to 15% cheaper than now add the 25% tariff to that cost and you WHOLESALE cost is more than the TRX sold for retail. Unless you have several Million Dollars to give Whistler they are going to have a long slow road ahead of them.
 

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I agree on the long road but not on my paying the millions💰
Hopefully they figured on paying people for design etc. not based on their proposed sale of 1000 units alone.
My world could actually use the current units since we have no simulcast and mostly vhf analog and p25. However, we will have to agree to disagree on the large need for the TRXs but, of course I could be totally wrong and will admit it when the results come in🙂
I still like my suggestions😀
 

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Not gonna happen in the real world not where you live there is a large need for the TRX Scanner as is.
The Design Engineers are not going to work 1 year for free. The last time Whistler bought Scanner stock the cost was 10 to 15% cheaper than now add the 25% tariff to that cost and you WHOLESALE cost is more than the TRX sold for retail. Unless you have several Million Dollars to give Whistler they are going to have a long slow road ahead of them.
Yeppers, the real world.. if they're going to make a competitive, desirable product that you and I will both buy from the get-go, they will have to pay the engineers well. But they will be a real contender.

Forget tariffs, it's a back and forth daily game. Ontario puts 25% tariff on energy, president puts 50% tariff on steel and aluminum, Ontario collapses like a cheap suit within an hour and is sending a delegation to Washington. It's a game.. the art of the deal. 2 very strong leaders.

China announced today that they are going to control the amount of Fentanyl they import through Mexico with the cooperation of the Mexican president who is basically the head of the cartel. The cartel, per the executive branch are now considered International terrorist and we can fight them with whatever forces we want, she's going to have to give in too, and she is.

Nobody knows yet, eventually we will.. given all the factors that have been discussed here, intelligently, we just don't know yet.

Have the funds been allocated by this new company that bought Whistler? We don't know. If they're going to survive, they've got to be a contender in the simulcast game or they're just kicking the can down the road and will disappear.
 

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Not gonna happen in the real world not where you live there is a large need for the TRX Scanner as is.
The Design Engineers are not going to work 1 year for free. The last time Whistler bought Scanner stock the cost was 10 to 15% cheaper than now add the 25% tariff to that cost and you WHOLESALE cost is more than the TRX sold for retail. Unless you have several Million Dollars to give Whistler they are going to have a long slow road ahead of them.
Do the new China tariffs affect all consumer electronics or just certain ones? I thought I had seen it's only specific items. And maybe their factory will be somewhere other than China. 🤷‍♀️
 

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Let's forget about tariffs with the new Whistler company.. it's all about.. monetary expenditure with a realistic business plan, don't worry about tariffs until you sell something, I don't think it'll be a factor.
 

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Many seem to forget that Whistler sold scanners worldwide and P25 and/or simulcast isn't widely used outside the USA and possibly Canada. So the legacy models are quite usable in other regions. And for conventional DMR, P25 and NXDN they outperform Uniden, even trunked DMR/NXDN performs better than Uniden a lot of times.

But all of what I just said doesn't fit the narrative of a lot of members here. ;)
THIS! I have both the TRX-1 and TRX-2 radios and they are dedicated to NXDN and DMR usage and they excel in this area. Every so often I will also use them on non-simulcast P25 too, but not nearly as often as the other two modes.
 

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I can't speak for DMR but I did use the trx-1 on a trunked, 460 MHz nx48 2 site system and it didn't work, that's not my opinion or narrative, it's reality.

It didn't trunk track the two sites. There were multiple missed transmissions, it was very undependable, basically useless. This was a clear reality for not only myself but others, how do we explain the discrepancies in findings? I wanted the TRX to work on my trunked nxdn system, but they didn't.

The Uniden keys however, for nxdn worked excellent on my x36's and SDS's.. on that nx48 trunk tracted 2 site 460 MHz system very well.

This is not a narrative that I'm making up, it's reality as experienced by myself and others. How do we explain opposite results?

It's a rhetorical question as we know why we get two different results from the two different brands. I didn't mind paying for the nxdn Uniden keys because they worked and the TRX scanners didn't.

Just pointing out the results that I and others experienced.. it's not a made-up narrative, it's not even a debate, it's reality.

Just saying.
 
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