whats the latest info on MSHP new system?

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Perhaps I should have worded it better, but it was intimated to me that the if the agency had compatable equipment, but just needed to be re-flashed, that would be done gratis for them by the techs installing the system and if they needed to get new equipment, they could get it at the state contract rate. You are correct as it will not cost the agency any fees like StarCom across the river.

I know that Cape Girardeau PD was thinking about going to it as 95% of their equipment is capable once re-flashed, but since there is no local tower planned they are holding off to see what happens later.

Still waiting on this end for exact frequency data for both sites ...

iamhere - how is your reception of the 147.330 machine? I was at the District E ARES meeting Saturday and was told that the repeater antenna will be going up about another 40-50 feet eventually.

Dennis

I don't know yet, I am pretty sure I won't here it here unless I run out to my tower here and hook up a radio to a spare VHF antenna. I am 109 air miles from that tower.
 

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A couple of other non-MOSWIN tidbits about the Bloomfield site -

1. The plan is to have a MEPN node (Missouri Emergency Packet Network) on 50.390 9600 baud as well as a 2m packet node on 145.010 or 145.070 that is tied into the 6m node.

2. There is a 2m repeater on 147.330 100.0 PL operating now on a temporary antenna at 200' - the final antenna will be higher up! If you can hear this repeater now, you will be able to hear the MOSWIN site when it goes live.

Might be time to create a MOSWIN sticky!

What callsign is being used on the 147.33 machine?
 

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I was looking around on the fcc's site and found a couple interesting things that may/may not be connected to any of this.

KUX278, which is a water patrol license is being modified to add narrowband, and change the number of mobiles from 250 to 3000.....which would match the number of mobiles for the majority of the frequencies listed on the KA5824 license used by the highway patrol. This leads me to believe that they won't move the water patrol to low band, as previously rumored.

What I really found odd was that the KA5824 license is being modified to change the emission designator for the majority (if not all) of their VHF High and UHF frequencies from 11K3F9W to 11K2F3E.
FROM digital TO analog ?.....Just the opposite of what I would have expected.
If you take a list of KA5824's frequencies, and mark off the ones identified on RR, as well as the ones for MTAC, VTAC, etc, you're still left with several unidentified frequencies
 

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Latest Info on MOSWIN.....

Both the Sikeston and Bloomfield sites are ready to go on air. All programming, interfacing, etc has been done. All that remains is for all of the agencies to sign off on the MOU's for the frequencies. As soon as the MOU's are signed, they will flip the switch on them and begin testing. I still do not have the exact frequencies, but as soon as the MOU's are signed I will have them for both sites.
 

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It could be literally any day now, just as soon as all the MOU's are signed off on by the various agencies they will throw the switch. If you are within range of either of the sites, you may want to put in the various VHF-High frequencies for the cities/counties in those areas and listen to see if you hear any thing "unusual", i.e. the control channel or P-25 signals where there were none before. I know that one of the frequencies that will be used at Sikeston is "owned" by the city of Charleston, but I do not know which one it is. Also, I am very confident that at least one of the Sikeston PD frequencies will also be used on the Sikeston site - if not more - as Sikeston will be migrating to MOSWIN.

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SA, I turned it on earlier. The ID announcement was weak & had static.

I programmed in the Sikeston channel that was listed yesterday, and I noticed that it had keyed one time this afternoon. So I may be able to hear it too.
 

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Well, I talked to my "source" and I was told that because of the lack of open VHF frequencies, the state was doing "MOU's" with other agencies to use some of their frequencies. Sikeston PD is going to use the system, so I would think that there at least one of the exisitng Sikeston channels will be used in the system. I am guessing that if a licensee allows the state to use it, there is some type of quid-pro-quo about getting that agency into the system at less expense or something. I don't know just how many channels will we assigned to each site other than the CC - I am assuming there will be more at Bloomfield than at Sikeston, but that is conjecture on my part.

I was told that the Sikeston frequencies have been selected and actually programmed into the hardware, and they are waiting for the last MOU to be signed and then they will turn it on. Bloomfield's frequencies are around 95% selected and not too much work remains to be done on that site - about a day's worth of connecting the cables and programming.

Without an actual license to go by, it is going to be "interesting" just to get the layout of the system.

Dennis

The state of Nevada, followed the same path as Missouri seems to be on, and it ended up costing them dearly. Nevada, decided to implement a statewide VHF-High band TRS several years ago that ended up floundering like the Titanic. Apparently, they erected the first phase of that TRS, gathered MOUs where needed, but never submitted that information to the FCC for licensing. In the long-run, it ended up costing the state of Nevada $15 million dollars that was thrown out the window, and the colonel of the highway patrol was fired. For sake of all parties concerned, I really don't want to see Missouri making the same mistake.

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It is a tested & tried work. Is seems to work flawlessly. I know that I'm 60 miles from Jonesboro and it works well for their city services & public service and they're able to communicate with state agencies.
 

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It is a tested & tried work. Is seems to work flawlessly. I know that I'm 60 miles from Jonesboro and it works well for their city services & public service and they're able to communicate with state agencies.

No arguement - but Jonesboro paid a lot to be included, including tower space on the "dump" tower. Their 800 system never worked right, they asked me to take over maintenance on it more than once.

In other parts of the state the coverage varies greatly. It is still a mobile system like the MO one will be in most parts of the state.

Why do you feel the MO system is not proven technology? I have great hopes for the MO system, and the added benefit of VHF versus 800 I think is going to be BIG!
 

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I didn't realize that Jonesboro had contributed so much. I guess I'm talking a little too much about something I know little about. I hope the MO works out real well. I'm excited about seeing it in operation.
 
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