American Electric Power (AEP) P25 WACN 92715

slayer816

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Network: 92715.1F9 ; AEP AR/LA/TX/OK

Bandplan #0: Base=851. Offset=-45 Spacing=12.5 BW=12.5
Bandplan #8: Base=851. Offset=-45 Spacing=12.5 BW=12.5 Slots=2


Site: 3.3 ; Bellevue

Channel 8-746: 855.6625-1 CC


Site: 4.4 ; Bethany

Channel 8-866: 856.4125-1 CC


Site: 5.5 NAC=005 ; Hosston

Neighbor: 92715.1F9-3.3 ; Bellevue
Neighbor: 92715.1F9-55.55 ; Shreveport (Arsenal Hill)
Neighbor: 92715.1F9-57.57 ; Atlanta
Neighbor: 92715.1F9-68.68 ; Daingerfield
Neighbor: 92715.1F9-73.73 ; Rosewood
Neighbor: 92715.1F9-80.80 ; Mooringsport
Neighbor: 92715.1F9-91.91 ; Plain Dealing

Channel 8-602: 854.7625-1 SCC
Channel 8-626: 854.9125-1 SCC
Channel 8-786: 855.9125-1 CC
Channel 8-926: 856.7875-1 SCC


Site: 55.55 NAC=037 ; Shreveport (Arsenal Hill)

Neighbor: 92715.1F9-3.3 ; Bellevue
Neighbor: 92715.1F9-4.4 ; Bethany
Neighbor: 92715.1F9-5.5 ; Hosston
Neighbor: 92715.1F9-66.66 ; Shreveport (Union Street)
Neighbor: 92715.1F9-80.80 ; Mooringsport
Neighbor: 92715.1F9-85.85 ; Marshall

Channel 8-778: 855.8625-1 CC
Channel 8-822: 856.1375-1 SCC
Channel 8-982: 857.1375-1 SCC


Site: 57.57 ; Atlanta

Channel 8-746: 855.6625-1 CC


Site: 65.65 ; Center

Channel 8-630: 854.9375-1 CC


Site: 66.66 NAC=042 ; Shreveport (Union Street)

Neighbor: 92715.1F9-3.3 ; Bellevue
Neighbor: 92715.1F9-4.4 ; Bethany
Neighbor: 92715.1F9-55.55 ; Shreveport (Arsenal Hill)
Neighbor: 92715.1F9-65.65 ; Center
Neighbor: 92715.1F9-81.81 ; Longstreet
Neighbor: 92715.1F9-95.95 ; Ringgold

Channel 8-1502: 860.3875-1 CC
Channel 8-1606: 861.0375-1 SCC
Channel 8-1646: 861.2875-1 SCC


Site: 68.68 ; Daingerfield

Channel 8-866: 856.4125-1 CC


Site: 73.73 ; Rosewood

Channel 8-1022: 857.3875-1 CC


Site: 80.80 ; Mooringsport

Channel 8-486: 854.0375-1 CC


Site: 81.81 ; Longstreet

Channel 8-786: 855.9125-1 CC


Site: 85.85 ; Marshall

Channel 8-626: 854.9125-1 CC


Site: 91.91 NAC=05B ; Plain Dealing

Neighbor: 92715.1F9-3.3 ; Bellevue
Neighbor: 92715.1F9-5.5 ; Hosston
Neighbor: 92715.1F9-80.80 ; Mooringsport

Channel 8-506: 854.1625-1 CC
Channel 8-1294: 859.0875-1 SCC
Channel 8-1454: 860.0875-1 SCC


Site: 95.95 ; Ringgold

Channel 8-1422: 859.8875-1 CC

Off a clean P25 Data file, picked this up on the night of 3/24-3/25.

5.5 = Missing Neighbors 73.73 & 91.91
 

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I was out by Vinita, OK the other day and got this site that isn't in the DB. Going to guess this is Grove. Two of the three licenses show Grove. Other closest is Tulsa, which this site is not heard in Tulsa while mobile.

1F9 39.39

NAC:027

855.3125
855.8125
858.2875


NL: 14.14, 15.15, 42.42, 71.71
 

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I was out by Vinita, OK the other day and got this site that isn't in the DB. Going to guess this is Grove. Two of the three licenses show Grove. Other closest is Tulsa, which this site is not heard in Tulsa while mobile.

1F9 39.39

NAC:027

855.3125
855.8125
858.2875


NL: 14.14, 15.15, 42.42, 71.71

I'm sure you are right about that. Might want to submit it if you haven't. I'm guessing you were using Unitrunker? Or were you using DSDPlus?

Site 71.71 is not in the DB or wiki. If you were using DSDPlus, can you provide your DSDplus.P25data file? I'm curious as to what the control channel is for 71.71.
 

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I'm sure you are right about that. Might want to submit it if you haven't. I'm guessing you were using Unitrunker? Or were you using DSDPlus?

Site 71.71 is not in the DB or wiki. If you were using DSDPlus, can you provide your DSDplus.P25data file? I'm curious as to what the control channel is for 71.71.
Sorry I meant to include that. 71.71 CC: 854.7625
 

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Thanks. Am I correct in thinking that you are running DSDPlus? If so, can you look in your DSDPlus.P25data file, find site 1F9 39.39, and see which of those freqs are listed as control channels (probably all of them)? And, see if they are showing up as 0-xxxx channel numbers or 5-xxxx or 8-xxxx channel numbers (which would indicate TDMA control channel). I think most sites around there now are TDMA, and whomever might work your submission will likely want to know if its a TDMA control channel site or not.

Pretty sure that 1F9 71.71 is going to be Fayetteville AR based upon the CC that you gave.

mike
 

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Sorry I meant to include that. 71.71 CC: 854.7625

And the same goes for 71.71. If you are using DSDPlus, look for the 1F9 71.71 site in DSDPlus.P25data and see what it shows next to the control channel for a channel number. It'll either be 0-xxxx or 8-xxxx I think. 0 indicates FDMA control channel, 8 indicates TDMA control channel.

For site 1F9 39.39, in the wiki we already have it listed as being reported as TDMA. So it probably is TDMA.
 

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Just went through Leakey, TX:

Site: 83.83 NAC=053

Neighbor: 92715.1F8-1.1 ; Bracketville
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-3.3 ; Del Rio
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-5.5 ; Rocksprings
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-6.6 ; Uvalde
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-12.12 ; Leesville
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-28.28 ; Junction
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-72.72 ; Bigfoot
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-73.73 ; Camp Wood

Channel 8-834: 856.2125-1 CC
Channel 8-870: 856.4375-1 SCC
Channel 8-914: 856.7125-1 SCC
Channel 8-958: 856.9875-1 SCC
Channel 8-994: 857.2125-1 CC SCC

Enter it if you want to @mtindor , if not I'll get it when I get to my destination tonight
 

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Just went through Leakey, TX:

Site: 83.83 NAC=053

Neighbor: 92715.1F8-1.1 ; Bracketville
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-3.3 ; Del Rio
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-5.5 ; Rocksprings
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-6.6 ; Uvalde
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-12.12 ; Leesville
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-28.28 ; Junction
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-72.72 ; Bigfoot
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-73.73 ; Camp Wood

Channel 8-834: 856.2125-1 CC
Channel 8-870: 856.4375-1 SCC
Channel 8-914: 856.7125-1 SCC
Channel 8-958: 856.9875-1 SCC
Channel 8-994: 857.2125-1 CC SCC

Enter it if you want to @mtindor , if not I'll get it when I get to my destination tonight

Nice job! I wont work it. I will leave it for you, especially since you are the one who did the legwork

Wx5uif’s site that he submitted a week ago on the forums needs added as well

Mike
 

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Just went through Leakey, TX:

Site: 83.83 NAC=053

Neighbor: 92715.1F8-1.1 ; Bracketville
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-3.3 ; Del Rio
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-5.5 ; Rocksprings
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-6.6 ; Uvalde
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-12.12 ; Leesville
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-28.28 ; Junction
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-72.72 ; Bigfoot
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-73.73 ; Camp Wood

Channel 8-834: 856.2125-1 CC
Channel 8-870: 856.4375-1 SCC
Channel 8-914: 856.7125-1 SCC
Channel 8-958: 856.9875-1 SCC
Channel 8-994: 857.2125-1 CC SCC

Enter it if you want to @mtindor , if not I'll get it when I get to my destination tonight
Just went through Leakey, TX:

Site: 83.83 NAC=053

Neighbor: 92715.1F8-1.1 ; Bracketville
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-3.3 ; Del Rio
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-5.5 ; Rocksprings
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-6.6 ; Uvalde
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-12.12 ; Leesville
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-28.28 ; Junction
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-72.72 ; Bigfoot
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-73.73 ; Camp Wood

Channel 8-834: 856.2125-1 CC
Channel 8-870: 856.4375-1 SCC
Channel 8-914: 856.7125-1 SCC
Channel 8-958: 856.9875-1 SCC
Channel 8-994: 857.2125-1 CC SCC

Enter it if you want to @mtindor , if not I'll get it when I get to my destination tonight

I did add 1F9-39.39 from WX5UIF. I'll leave your submission to you to add/work. Thanks for continuing to keep an eye out for AEP stuff! I did update the Wiki and Map with your Leakey finding.
 

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I did add 1F9-39.39 from WX5UIF. I'll leave your submission to you to add/work. Thanks for continuing to keep an eye out for AEP stuff! I did update the Wiki and Map with your Leakey finding.
I just wish we could scan the system with all the work we’ve done on it
 

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I just wish we could scan the system with all the work we’ve done on it

You mean, like scan it with an actual scanner like a Uniden or Whistler? I agree. What a pain in the butt to have to use software to monitor it or buy a P25RX. The damn scanner manufacturers should have this support on their latest scanners!
 

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You mean, like scan it with an actual scanner like a Uniden or Whistler? I agree. What a pain in the butt to have to use software to monitor it or buy a P25RX. The damn scanner manufacturers should have this support on their latest scanners!
Yes, a firmware update for the 436/536 and 100/200 would be awesome for me
 

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Just went through Leakey, TX:

Site: 83.83 NAC=053

Neighbor: 92715.1F8-1.1 ; Bracketville
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-3.3 ; Del Rio
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-5.5 ; Rocksprings
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-6.6 ; Uvalde
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-12.12 ; Leesville
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-28.28 ; Junction
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-72.72 ; Bigfoot
Neighbor: 92715.1F8-73.73 ; Camp Wood

Channel 8-834: 856.2125-1 CC
Channel 8-870: 856.4375-1 SCC
Channel 8-914: 856.7125-1 SCC
Channel 8-958: 856.9875-1 SCC
Channel 8-994: 857.2125-1 CC SCC

Enter it if you want to @mtindor , if not I'll get it when I get to my destination tonight

@rattlerbb01 I went ahead and added it to the DB. Thanks!

Mike
 

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I don't know the operation of TDMA control channels very well. Does it act like a P2 channel that will revert to P1 if a subscriber affiliates that can only communicate on P1? (I would assume it would never affiliate as it wouldn't pick up the TDMA CC.. but again I don't know.)

Since the storms the other night, CCs are not showing as TDMA in the Tulsa area. There are tons of radios affiliating and TG hits as well.

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I don't know the operation of TDMA control channels very well. Does it act like a P2 channel that will revert to P1 if a subscriber affiliates that can only communicate on P1? (I would assume it would never affiliate as it wouldn't pick up the TDMA CC.. but again I don't know.)

I'd have to go back and look through the manuals to be certain, but if it's a Phase 1-only subscriber unit, it won't work on a Phase 2 control channel and thus cannot register with or affiliate to the system.
 

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Hi, doing some storm-related monitoring here in Central VA.

I have discovered a new AEP site (69.69) in Virginia (SysID 1F7). Unfortunately, I can't directly decode this site, but I can verify that it's a neighbor site of both 51.51 and 72.72, as I can decode those sites and see it as adjacent on both.


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As I said, I am not able to decode the 69.69 CC at my location, but I am pretty sure it's associated with this license:



Next time I am down that way I will try to confirm.

I also have seen a new TDMA TG (4260) which I can confirm is a DDC associated with outage work being done in Amherst/Nelson/Albemarle counties in Virginia.
 

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Hi Hank,

Thank you for that info. I've updated the AEP P25 Wiki and the Google Map with the 1F7-69.69 (Buchanan VA on WPWQ450). Hopefully somebody will be able to confirm it directly in the near future. But what you've provided is an excellent start, since the site is almost certainly online if there are a couple of neighboring sites listing it as a peer.

As for TG 4260, please feel free to submit that here if you haven't already.

mike
 
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