Anyone in the Dothan or Enterprise Alabama using SDS100 to listen to NXDN?

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In the above post @4dot2 shows a frequency of 159.1200Mhz. That is the input frequency into the repeater which then sends it back out on 156.1950Mhz for others to listen to. The police cars, fire trucks, ambulances have their radio setup to transmit to the repeater on 159.1200 but listen on 156.1950. Typically, the signal strength of the "input" to the frequency is so low powered that you have to be fairly close to the unit to hear it, that is why you don't typically include the "input" frequencies and only put the "output" or repeater frequencies in the scanner.
 

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In the above post @4dot2 shows a frequency of 159.1200Mhz. That is the input frequency into the repeater which then sends it back out on 156.1950Mhz for others to listen to. The police cars, fire trucks, ambulances have their radio setup to transmit to the repeater on 159.1200 but listen on 156.1950. Typically, the signal strength of the "input" to the frequency is so low powered that you have to be fairly close to the unit to hear it, that is why you don't typically include the "input" frequencies and only put the "output" or repeater frequencies in the scanner.
I am 30 plus miles from Enterprise i have no problem recieving Eprise pd .
 

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@4dot2 - What scanner are you using and are you receiving the Eprise pd on the City of Enterprise Trunk System? You can probably help more than I can since I live in Kentucky and couldn't possibly hear the traffic even if I added to my scanner.
 

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@4dot2 - One other question -- are you able to hear traffic for the Coffee County Sheriff? The person @jjl0412 I am trying to help says he is not hearing traffic for the Sheriff and the RR database shows NXDNe for that agency which means they may have gone full time encrypted.
 

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@4dot2 - What scanner are you using and are you receiving the Eprise pd on the City of Enterprise Trunk System? You can probably help more than I can since I live in Kentucky and couldn't possibly hear the traffic even if I added to my scanner.
TRX-1
IMO i've had all the uniden products the trx-1 is alot better then any uniden junk!
 
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@4dot2 - Thanks for the information. Can you confirm that the Enterprise PD is actually operating on the City Of Enterprise Truck System and are not on a single frequency NXDN system? @jjl0412 is apparently hearing Enterprise Fire and EMS on the trunk system but not the PD.

I would add that I have several ICOM receivers that are also better at receiving than Uniden, but they can't do Trunk systems, you have to add all of the individual repeater frequencies as separate channels and scan that bank.
 

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@jjl0412 - would like for you to try two more things

1.) You have Priority Scan turned on (the small "P" displayed in lower corner of screen shot on STREETS hold). Turn that off, it causes the scanner ever 2 seconds to jump to that frequency looking for traffic. That maybe part of why you are missing parts of the traffic and/or makes it sound like it choppy. Push the FUNC key followed by pushing the .no/PRI key to turn it off. You will have to do that twice, the first time will cause it to switch to DND On mode, the second time should say OFF. Do that first because when you do the second item I am requesting and if priority is scan turned on, you may get a message NOTHING TO SCAN.

2.) Since it appears that Enterprise PD is operating on the Trunk system and you can receive Enterprise Fire and EMS on the trunk, turn off the scanning of the conventional STREETS entry. To do that, wait until the scanner stops on the STREETS entry, then push the AVOID button (upper left on keypad) to causes a temporary avoid until the scanner is powered off and back on. Uniden scanners at times have problem scanning the same frequency in two different situations especially if one case that frequency is defined as conventional and the other case as trunk frequency.

Don't edit anything in Sentinel until we get things working better, but remember what has been changed.
 
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Looks good let's go for it....

Have you updated the database in Sentinel anytime in the last few weeks? If not, you probably should do that before writing to the scanner.

Here is the last thing I would like for you to do,

Make sure the batteries in the scanner are good, don't want it to power off while being written to it.

When you hook the scanner to the computer and click on Write To Scanner, a box pops up to verify the name of your scanner BUT there are also two other boxes on the screen. One says FORCE WRITE FULL DATABASE and the other says ERASE FAVORITES ON SCANNER.

Put a check mark in both boxes. By clearing all favorites that might be on the scanner, you will now know only what you have just edit is what is going to the scanner.
Should this be done everytime we edit something in our favorites list ? and thanks for all your help I am still working on this to .
 

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It doesn't hurt anything to both force write the database and erase the favorites prior to writing if you are making all edits/changes in Sentinel which is what I do, so I check both boxes each time. If you use Zip Code scanning and/or location scanning, you definitely want to update the database. If all you are scanning is favorites, then it is not using the database, it is using whatever info that is in the favorites. The best reason for erasing (or clearing) favorites in scanner before writing is that sometimes if you use other software packages to also edit stuff, you can wind up with duplicate favorites, I.e. Coffey County and then another Coffee County out there. It is not always obvious which one Is going to get scanned.

However if you go to software like ProScan which a lot people use and you edit all of your favorites with ProScan, you don't want to erase the scanner unless you have read the info from the scanner into Sentinel, then made changes in Sentinel and write back to the scanner. But then you have to read the scanner info back into ProScan before editing stuff there. Some people learn that the hard way when things disappear. ProScan can not edit Profiles, so they have to be done in Sentinel.

Also keep in mind if you change stuff in the scanner itself and don't read from the scanner into Sentinel before you do edits in Sentinel, those changes will likely get overwritten no matter which box you check.

Sentinel is suppose to be good at looking the date of file containing the edit and other info and then deciding whether to replace the favorites file when writing to the scanner. In other words, if you have 4 favorites but only edit 1 of them, it is suppose only write back the one that was edited and leave the other 3 alone. That seems to work most times.
 
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@dallascowboys - if you are making the changes, are they helping? Plus are you using the stock antenna that comes with the scanner? The stock rubber duck antenna is ok at best.
 

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I am using Sentinel to program and edit all my stuff, I have the 436 with a vehicle antenna inside my house in my window , at this point and time still hear nothing from Enterprise or Elba. the only thing and it is not all the time is I hear Enterprise Streets but was also told that Enterprise streets was the Enterprise police frequency . I will take all help to receive Enterprise/ Elaba and surrounding counties.
 

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@4dot2 - Thanks for the information. Can you confirm that the Enterprise PD is actually operating on the City Of Enterprise Truck System and are not on a single frequency NXDN system? @jjl0412 is apparently hearing Enterprise Fire and EMS on the trunk system but not the PD.

I would add that I have several ICOM receivers that are also better at receiving than Uniden, but they can't do Trunk systems, you have to add all of the individual repeater frequencies as separate channels and scan that bank.
Pls look at the freq differences in S&P and City of Eprise.. also Streets is still on Law and mod is auto.. no priority activated. Still no 'police' traffic i can confirm. Elba police and fire are good..but Elba is 20 mikes away. I am 5 miles from eprise fire n pd.
 

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@dallascowboys - did you make the changes I suggested to change the RAN 1 to RAN 9 for all 5 frequencies in the entry called Enterprise which is part of the City of Enterprise Public Service System which is under County Systems? If not, you won't pickup anything on that trunk system. Elba is on the S&P truck system and it needs to have the entry called Enterprise (PD) in order to hear Elba police and fire. That entry is under Statewide Systems. Not sure which version you have, but if you have the one called Elba it show RAN 8 which is not what Elba appears to be using. The screen shot @jjl0412 posted shows they are using RAN 9.

In the picture just above (middle) shows what @jjl0412 is using for the frequencies and apparently working because he is hearing the traffic for Elba. You can rename Enterprise (PD) to just Enterprise like above without hurting anything.
 
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Pls look at the freq differences in S&P and City of Eprise.. also Streets is still on Law and mod is auto.. no priority activated. Still no 'police' traffic i can confirm. Elba police and fire are good..but Elba is 20 mikes away. I am 5 miles from eprise fire n pd.
Also..is this normal if no quick keys are being used? I have all quick keys set to None
 

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I am using Sentinel to program and edit all my stuff, I have the 436 with a vehicle antenna inside my house in my window , at this point and time still hear nothing from Enterprise or Elba. the only thing and it is not all the time is I hear Enterprise Streets but was also told that Enterprise streets was the Enterprise police frequency . I will take all help to receive Enterprise/ Elaba and surrounding counties.
Hi Dallas, i am considering a mobile antenna for my 436 also. My radio is sitting next to a bct15x in my living room in a corner. No window access. Would a mobile work ok in the situation? It will be magnetic, so i will have to set it in a small metal pan.i have it hooked to a centerfire discone now for testing and i get geneva, ozrk, n elba.. but unless i run 20 to 40' coax to garage, wife would disown me...
 

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@jjl0412 - have you tried doing the AVOID on the STREETS entry when is locked on and talking? If not, try that real quick. Try for about an hour and if still don't hear any PD, just power the scanner off and back on resume to scanning the STREETS entry.

Are you still hearing Enterprise FD and EMS on the trunk system like you did last night?
 

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Both gentleman, if the weather is ok, try taking the scanner outdoors and get in a clear path toward Enterprise. The Uniden stock antenna struggles inside houses. You should see an improvement.

If your weather is like mine, 31 degrees, mix of rain and snow, well dress warm. :)
 
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