AJP402
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Not for much longer...at least on SOD and some other non division channels. It's coming to NYPD also.
Broadcastify Receives Cease and Desist from Terre Haute, IN City Attorney
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cpetraglia
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Bring up a feed and notice the Verizon and Scanner Master ads. I am sure they are not free to the ad poster.
What would really make a difference? I have nothing to hide, I don't care who knows I am a feed provider. They can look at my page on here and see that I am a provider. What would waiting for the legal team really do? Yeah, they can get the order dropped but that won't stop THPD or any other agency from going encrypted so why drag it out? I took the feed down in hopes that they don't go encrypted and ruin it for other area scanner hobbyists and myself. I do not wanna be the reason, everyone can't hear the Terre Haute agencies anymore on their personal scanners cause I did not take their agencies off and them going back to being encrypted also that would create Multi-Agency comms problems like it has in the past between City & County. I for sure do not wanna be that guy that somehow puts the officers at risk. I certainly don't wanna be the contributor to Idiots using their phones and the feed to do wrong. This was a decision I felt was the right thing to do, was it an easy one, NO cause I enjoyed providing the feed for people that can't afford $500+ for a radio and this was my way of sharing with them people. So if you wanna fault me for doing right then I am guilty as charged. have a great Day!
No one should be surprised about this development.
I always found it to be ironic that the very website originally founded to support the radio hobby,
and specifically scanner listening, also developed a revenue source that will ultimately lead to the demise of the radio scanner hobby.
When major incidents occur, broadcast networks begin playing police radio traffic feeds obtained from Broadcastify. Sometimes while the incidents are still in progress. The first time I saw this happen I knew the hobby was doomed.
The best way to piss off police agencies and officials is to do what was described above.
You don't have to be a Brain Surgeon to see what's coming.
Those agencies already using digital systems will flip the switch. Others on the fence about switching radio systems may find it cheaper to invest in new systems rather than litigate against Broadcastify.
Digital radio comms is the future anyway, so the next scanner you buy may wind up being a great paperweight real soon.
I always found it to be ironic that the very website originally founded to support the radio hobby,
and specifically scanner listening, also developed a revenue source that will ultimately lead to the demise of the radio scanner hobby.
When major incidents occur, broadcast networks begin playing police radio traffic feeds obtained from Broadcastify. Sometimes while the incidents are still in progress. The first time I saw this happen I knew the hobby was doomed.
The best way to piss off police agencies and officials is to do what was described above.
You don't have to be a Brain Surgeon to see what's coming.
Those agencies already using digital systems will flip the switch. Others on the fence about switching radio systems may find it cheaper to invest in new systems rather than litigate against Broadcastify.
Digital radio comms is the future anyway, so the next scanner you buy may wind up being a great paperweight real soon.
troymail
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As I see/read it, they are giving an opportunity to work with them by shutting down the feed (a concept that I agree with others will eventually be the end of the hobby for all of us).
They don't need you to cooperate -- they CAN just encrypt - but when they do, NO one will be able to listen - not even with a scanner.
And then there will be NOTHING you can do about it.
They can and will encrypt - we're seeing it everywhere.
They don't need you to cooperate -- they CAN just encrypt - but when they do, NO one will be able to listen - not even with a scanner.
And then there will be NOTHING you can do about it.
They can and will encrypt - we're seeing it everywhere.
MPSMP
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Than they should be busting and charging those who show up on the scene of incidents Not those providing the feed.. If your going to get a petition started I will be one of the first t sign it..
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This is the BEST post EVER!!
You just summed up the birth and death of streaming websites and OUR hobby.
PS... Attention : That guy that took the feed down and others streamers!! Remember YOU will be "THAT GUY" that ruins the hobby in YOUR city. YOU will brick those high end scanners that responsible people have saved and learned to use. YOU will make people irate over what YOU did. YOU may one day receive a CEASE and DESIST letter from your local government.
Now is it THAT worth it to be hated by your local government and your scanner / HAM community? Feeders NEED to see the big picture and get out of their Cave they live in!
A thought I have had for a long time regards a possible misconception agencies may have regarding how scanner feeds work.
It seems to me a good portion of scanner feeds, including the ones I provide, scan multiple agencies. In the majority of situations it's unlikely that an end user of the feed is ever going to hear the entirety of the goings-on of any particular event due to that. I wonder if agencies think that the end-user can control the feed to the point of stopping it on their agency and being able to listen to such an event in its entirety.
I don't believe that any private citizen/scanner hobbyist should ever provide a single channel feed for any agency and that those should be left to the choice of the department. I think there are many of those here that are of an unofficial capacity and as such could be construed as "problematic". IMHO there is far less of an issue with a feed that covers a multitude of police and/or fire frequencies/talkgroups.
This is an unfortunate situation and although it doesn't sound good hopefully cooler heads will prevail.
It seems to me a good portion of scanner feeds, including the ones I provide, scan multiple agencies. In the majority of situations it's unlikely that an end user of the feed is ever going to hear the entirety of the goings-on of any particular event due to that. I wonder if agencies think that the end-user can control the feed to the point of stopping it on their agency and being able to listen to such an event in its entirety.
I don't believe that any private citizen/scanner hobbyist should ever provide a single channel feed for any agency and that those should be left to the choice of the department. I think there are many of those here that are of an unofficial capacity and as such could be construed as "problematic". IMHO there is far less of an issue with a feed that covers a multitude of police and/or fire frequencies/talkgroups.
This is an unfortunate situation and although it doesn't sound good hopefully cooler heads will prevail.
ecps92
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've seen the ones that are hosted by "Rangecast" with the local Scanner Shop and they did have a hold button to select individual agencies. 
As for the many Responsible Feed Providers (and those who disconnect, when the situation requires it) keep up the great work
As for the many Responsible Feed Providers (and those who disconnect, when the situation requires it) keep up the great work
bill4long
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Uh, no. Internet streaming is a convenience. Local listeners can buy a scanner anyway. Remote listeners are too far away to be "showing up."
It's a non issue.
The lawyer will lose the case, and waste the Peoples' money in the process.
They are free to encrypt their dispatch channels if they want. Or change the law.
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bill4long
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Poppycock. People have been using scanners to listen to public safety and "showing up" for 40 years. My friends and I used to show up at fires all the time bck in the 70s long before the internet. If the problem was really that far out of hand, scanners would have been banned long ago. Some whacker probably tried to provide his "services" in Terre Haute. It happens. But it's been happening a long time before the Internet.
Any agency that wants to encrypt their traffic can. That's the solution if they're concerned about it.
Maybe Broadcastify should put up a warning notice on the pages with live feeds that says, "don't show up to a public safety event that you hear on this stream; you may get in the way, and will probably face prosecution." Or some such. Nothing wrong with that.
bill4long
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Plenty of digital scanners out there. Being digital doesn't keep people from listening. It has to be encrypted as well.
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Government only tends to ban things when it can get away with it. In years past, Americans weren't as easy to control. An outright ban on something like scanners would have been met with typical American ingenuity. The prohibition would have failed. With today's sheep, government can do just about anything it wants.
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If nobody chooses to fight back against these government quacks they will continue to destroy our life as they see no opposition or consequences to their actions.
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It's called the First Amendment. You should read it sometime. And read the rest of the Constitution and Bill of Rights while you're at it.
It really should be required reading AND understanding in ALL high schools. It is the highest law of the land, and the basics of what this country is all about.
And actually, the Bill of Rights only outlines these rights. They are not granted by this document, or any other, and not the government either. They inherent in the fact that you are a human being. (And yes, that means that they are inherent no mater what country you are in or where you are from.)
If any of that violates any other act that has been mentioned, than that said act is unconstitutional. Period.
Exactly, but thought crime is death. 1984 just started on broadcast TV. The opening scenes are uncanny in resemblance when one looks about these days. Many people can't even conceive that government is accountable to us and not the other way around. Incredible.
I think you're misinterpreting the First Amendment. It's not all-encompassing. If you're theory was true, I shouldn't have to be licensed to talk on ham radio. I should be able to say what I want on any frequency I want because the Constitution gives me free speech.
Although I would argue that at a different time and place, you are comparing apples and oranges. The subject is receiving government communication and not about transmitting on a frequency.
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