peterjmag
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I'm listening on the on the Broken Arrow site right now and TG 1000 is completely encrypted.
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I've been seeing a whole lot more UIDs showing up now on the 1000 TG. Weeks ago it was just a couple. It still looks like there is a patch between the OS system and the P25, as some of the transmissions come across as no UID and encrypted on the voice channels, but the CC does not show the privacy flag.
I'm getting clear transmissions from UID 100111, which appears to be dispatch on TG 1000.
TG 1007 appears to be records, with the unencrypted UID of 100113, all others encrypted.
Both are coming across as P25 phase 2.
I'm getting clear transmissions from UID 100111, which appears to be dispatch on TG 1000.
TG 1007 appears to be records, with the unencrypted UID of 100113, all others encrypted.
Both are coming across as P25 phase 2.
I guess that's why I heard it (Disp) in the clear yesterday in the car (996P2) vs all encrypted in the house (PSR-600) so I need to switch to a PH 2 capable radio in the house.
Yeah.. I need to upgrade the old BCD996T here in the house to the P2 version.
Now that I have loaded into the P2 radio, getting Disp. in the clear as well as records.
peterjmag
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That explains why I am not receiving 1000 BAPD for I only have a Phase 1 scanner. Time to save up for a phase 2. I'm glad there is not encryption so far. That is fantastic news. Keep us advised.
So is it safe to say the whole Broken Arrow system including Wagoner, Bixby, Jenks, and Glenpool is a mix of Phase 1 and 2 or are they in the process of upgrading to all phase 2?
So is it safe to say the whole Broken Arrow system including Wagoner, Bixby, Jenks, and Glenpool is a mix of Phase 1 and 2 or are they in the process of upgrading to all phase 2?
Well given BAPD's track record to be unmonitored, it's suffices to say they will be totally encrypted when they migrate to the BARCN system.
Also noticing today that Glenpool PD is encrypted on ID 5000. Bixby and Jenks are not but Jenks is P2 as mentioned before.
Glenpool has been off an on encrypted the last few weeks.
100111 is now coming across encrypted on TG1000...
100111 is now coming across encrypted on TG1000...
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Does Broken Arrow Fire have any TG ID's for the P25 System?
Does Broken Arrow Fire have any TG ID's for the P25 System?
Turncoats!
The RR records show that the tower is P25p2, but the database only refers to P25p1...
Not sure how Broken Arrow can justify having their own tower any more than Coweta, Jenks, Bixby, Catoosa, Glenpool, Wagoneer, so one guy, Mark whatever his name is at BA, stated at some conference that he'll let them all on the BA system without incurring any costs to them...
and I'm sure they're all enticed by the encryption on there just so that we can't scan...but everyone's doing that now...but they forget that the taxpayers paid for the systems they are using and we have a right to listen to them...our Federal leaders have been turncoats for the last 50 years, the little cities are just following suit...
I haven't heard any yet but I am assuming that they might be in the 2xxx range of ID's.
Can you actually pick up transmissions that are going on with phase 2 on a phase 1 scanner? But no voice?
Using sdrtrunk, it seems to show some possibility for tdma_packets on a p25 system running phase 1, but would tdma indicate that it is phase 2?
But I'd have to get op25 working to tell for sure on a mixed phase 1/2 environment. So far I can't get my op25 going...
firechaser97
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I Just want to let you guys know. BAFD talkgroup is 2000. Their not opensky anymore so that's good. they are still well encrypted. some stated that its for medical information when that's not the case.
I did a ride along with Engine 4. I learned their calls are dispatched just the same as any other department. they do not put out patient info over the dispatch. whomever said they do, clearly haven't been around them. they only went encrypted because the police department went in that direction years ago making it easier to communicate with one another end to end.
In the future theres still hope for those who want to listen in to broken arrow public safety. people have broken encryption before. its possible now that they not open sky anymore. all one would need is the AES/DES key. I read you guys posts all the way through. BAPDs Tgrp is 1000. they will be going encrypted soon. they are in the middle of transitioning from open sky to p25. you can still listen to the pd dispatchers. just not the police officer's radio communications to one another. hope this helped.
I did a ride along with Engine 4. I learned their calls are dispatched just the same as any other department. they do not put out patient info over the dispatch. whomever said they do, clearly haven't been around them. they only went encrypted because the police department went in that direction years ago making it easier to communicate with one another end to end.
In the future theres still hope for those who want to listen in to broken arrow public safety. people have broken encryption before. its possible now that they not open sky anymore. all one would need is the AES/DES key. I read you guys posts all the way through. BAPDs Tgrp is 1000. they will be going encrypted soon. they are in the middle of transitioning from open sky to p25. you can still listen to the pd dispatchers. just not the police officer's radio communications to one another. hope this helped.
Um, no.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Encryption_Standard
The only way to "break" the encryption is to repeatedly ask your elected representatives what the agencies are hiding. Eventually, they'll order a radio system without it. If they have the cojones, they might order it turned off, but cojones are not usually something city councils are equipped with.
Heard today on the City Plex site ID 713. From what I briefly heard it sounded like a link to TCSO on OKWIN.
Which elected representatives? The state or the city?
In this case, City.
I wish more places took Enid's approach and didn't migrate to their NXDN system until they had a workaround where citizens could listen in since there were no NXDN scanners a few years ago. Now quite a few places want to enable the big E so that no one can listen.
I wish more places took Enid's approach and didn't migrate to their NXDN system until they had a workaround where citizens could listen in since there were no NXDN scanners a few years ago. Now quite a few places want to enable the big E so that no one can listen.
Just wanted to know, but it might require involving some state representatives, some of these cities like this don't want to answer to anybody, so big E works for them. I think you could possibly make a case for a Constitutional violation over something like this. Basically repeating my earlier post, we are the taxpayer that paid for it, we have the right to listen in.
Anybody think the current transmissions set-up will stay in place on the BA, Bixby and Glenpool PD?
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