Confused RRDB Admin

[west-pac]

Why would a RRDB Admin delete the last-known good site information an analog radio system simply because they found a P25 radio license for that location? I thought the RRDB was based on user-supplied data, not FCC license data? This out-of-state admin requested that local users see if the site converted to P25, but then deleted the analog site information that one would need to monitor to see if the radio traffic did cease and move somewhere else. They also did not provide the new P25 FCC license data (to monitor for activity) that they "assumed" was in use now.

FWIW, this last analog site has stayed analog supposedly because of a conflict between policy makers. At last check, after the P25 license was issued, this site was still analog.

This analog site data has since been deleted, so there will be no more checking that site for radio activity.

Indiana Department of Corrections Trunking System, New Castle, Indiana

Indiana Department of Corrections Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

 

[AK9R]

@Starcom21 and @wa8pyr

 

[wa8pyr]

Why would a RRDB Admin delete the last-known good site information an analog radio system simply because they found a P25 radio license for that location? I thought the RRDB was based on user-supplied data, not FCC license data? This out-of-state admin requested that local users see if the site converted to P25, but then deleted the analog site information that one would need to monitor to see if the radio traffic did cease and move somewhere else. They also did not provide the new P25 FCC license data (to monitor for activity) that they "assumed" was in use now.

FWIW, this last analog site has stayed analog supposedly because of a conflict between policy makers. At last check, after the P25 license was issued, this site was still analog.

This analog site data has since been deleted, so there will be no more checking that site for radio activity.

Indiana Department of Corrections Trunking System, New Castle, Indiana

Indiana Department of Corrections Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

I have put the system back to normal display until we get to the bottom of this.

Do you have the info for the site in your records. If so please provide it.

 

[west-pac]

I have put the system back to normal display until we get to the bottom of this.

Do you have the info for the site in your records. If so please provide it.

I do not have that analog site data easily or readily available.

Maybe the Way Back machine would have it. 🤷‍♂️ That's not something I'm familiar with using.

 

[wa8pyr]

I do not have that analog site data easily or readily available.

Maybe the Way Back machine would have it. 🤷‍♂️ That's not something I'm familiar with using.

Presumably the frequencies are the same as before? I just checked the FCC license history and it appears they simply changed the emission designators.

Wayback probably not; it doesn’t do well with fluid data like databases.

 

[west-pac]

Presumably the frequencies are the same as before?

Wayback probably not; it doesn’t do well with fluid data like databases.

Presumably.

 

[Ronaldski]

Its there as of 11 May 2024, its the only capture as well->

Indiana Department of Corrections Trunking System, Multiple, Indiana

Indiana Department of Corrections Trunking System Profile

web.archive.org

 

[wa8pyr]

New Castle IDOC site

All, If anyone close to New Castle could, please check the frequencies of the IDOC system there and verify whether it’s still Type II or has migrated to SAFE-T. https://www.radioreference.com/db/sid/3747 An error deleted that site from the IDOC system before it was confirmed to have migrated...

forums.radioreference.com

 

[wa8pyr]

Its there as of 11 May 2024, its the only capture as well->

Indiana Department of Corrections Trunking System, Multiple, Indiana

Indiana Department of Corrections Trunking System Profile

web.archive.org

But all of the site specifics are not available; when you click on the site name it points you to the current page. That’s where the Wayback Machine doesn’t work well, when a link points you to a fluid database rather than a static web page.

 

[Spitfire8520]

But all of the site specifics are not available; when you click on the site name it points you to the current page. That’s where the Wayback Machine doesn’t work well, when a link points you to a fluid database rather than a static web page.

The old RRDB v1 link was saved on March 10, 2021 and presumably has whatever was in the database before the SAFE-T migration as the system had not been updated since November 7, 2018. It looks like the site never really had any information added to it other than the FCC license.

New Castle Site Details (Indiana Department of Corrections)

web.archive.org

 

[INDY72]

IDOC was a totally separate system prior to the ASTRO-25 upgrade for the SAFE-T. IPSC has now made individual IDOC sites into subsystems of the SAFE-T trs all same sysid etc. New Castle is I believe the only one not fully converted yet. The even added an conventional P25 system for one site that had never had its own real system before. New Castle never had all the information gathered unfortunately so if it is still an 3600 trs, now is the time if anyone can go over and log it. It won't be analog too much longer.