DSDPlus DSD+ FL 2.505 released

[mtindor]

I was thinking both systems here don't have OTA aliases enabled. I'll run the lakeland system for awhile. I did go to the RID note file and looked don't see nothing at the end like most people have showing.

If you don't see messages like these, then it's likely not sending them:

DSDPlus - DSD+ FL 2.505 released

Remember, you have to be monitoring a Motorola P2 five system that has aliases turned on. If it doesn’t have aliases turned on, you won’t see aliases. If it’s not a Motorola P 25 system, you absolutely will not see aliases. Yeah, I get this. I was wondering if there was a way to determine if...

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Otherwise, if you are definitely voice following and have the P25 settings in the MISC settings that you state, it should be picking up aliases.

Maybe you'll be able to find some other P25 system within earshot that sends aliases.

Mike

 

[bravo14]

If you don't see messages like these, then it's likely not sending them:

DSDPlus - DSD+ FL 2.505 released

Remember, you have to be monitoring a Motorola P2 five system that has aliases turned on. If it doesn’t have aliases turned on, you won’t see aliases. If it’s not a Motorola P 25 system, you absolutely will not see aliases. Yeah, I get this. I was wondering if there was a way to determine if...

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Otherwise, if you are definitely voice following and have the P25 settings in the MISC settings that you state, it should be picking up aliases.

Maybe you'll be able to find some other P25 system within earshot that sends aliases.

Mike

When I went to the Duke Energy and locked into the control channel no aliases info showed up like the bm82557 screen shot.

 

[mtindor]

When I went to the Duke Energy and locked into the control channel no aliases info showed up like the bm82557 screen shot.

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Duke Energy is a Harris System. There are aliases on Duke though, at least in NC/SC. I think also in FL. This doesn't have anything to do with DSDPlus 505 though.

And there have to be voice calls, and you have to be voice following, and you have to be voice following encrypted transmissions because everything is encrypted.

And if I recall, not every Duke radio has an alias. I'm just basing that on some screenshots I've seen in the past from @RaleighGuy

 

[mwjones]

Reading this thread, it brings up a couple of questions:

1) If I have multiple sets of config files (I typically rotate in an alternate set of config files when I travel for the area I'm traveling to) I presume when I rotate back to the DSDPlus.radios file with the submitted data it will pick up where it left off without having to start all over again.

2) As I look at the stats download today, I see someone else is submitting data for decoding from another system that is just outside my home base's range (but when the conditions are right I can pick up at night, or when I go mobile with my laptop into that system's area). If I start reporting radio ID's for that system, will I see receive back the decoded radio ID's the other submitter has posted (if those radios are in my file already) and vice-versa, or will I have to submit them again, and let the online server re-process those same entries?

 

[mtindor]

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Reading this thread, it brings up a couple of questions:

1) If I have multiple sets of config files (I typically rotate in an alternate set of config files when I travel for the area I'm traveling to) I presume when I rotate back to the DSDPlus.radios file with the submitted data it will pick up where it left off without having to start all over again.

2) As I look at the stats download today, I see someone else is submitting data for decoding from another system that is just outside my home base's range (but when the conditions are right I can pick up at night, or when I go mobile with my laptop into that system's area). If I start reporting radio ID's for that system, will I see receive back the decoded radio ID's the other submitter has posted (if those radios are in my file already) and vice-versa, or will I have to submit them again, and let the online server re-process those same entries?

If you monitor a radio ID that has already been monitored by somebody else that’s allowing a alias to be determined, then when you monitor that radio ID, it will immediately pull the alias info from the server and inserted into your DSD plus

As long as you restore the correct dot radios file that was collecting information for that system before, then it will pick up where it left off.

By default, it will try to re-acquire alias information every 30 days. That reacquisition time can be changed in the miscellaneous menu under the P 25 section. Although I’m sure on most systems aliases rarely change so there’s probably no need to change it from the default of 30 days.

 

[Muxlow]

Iv set my aqusition time to 1 day for now since its new and everything is just starting up. Guess youd only really want to have it that low if a department changes their talker alias on a per shift basis or something. Think after a month ill put it back up to the default 30

 

[slicerwizard]

Iv set my aqusition time to 1 day for now since its new and everything is just starting up. Guess youd only really want to have it that low if a department changes their talker alias on a per shift basis or something. Think after a month ill put it back up to the default 30

Yeah, I did the same, what with LMRN being so new and radios still being deployed. Some have initial aliases that are just "<department> - <RID>", like "MTO - 123456" while most seem to be transitioning to meaningful names like "Gormley Yard", etc.

 

[mtindor]

I just saw a ton of cleartexzt aliases show up on my PASTARNET monitoring station. Same thing on WVSIRN. So if you had sent a bunch of alias stuff to the server today and were waiting for cleartext, it's likely showing up in your DSDPlus now or will be soon.

 

[Kazzaw]

Ok, so it is working for me, but unfortunately the only radios with aliases turned on/working appear to be techs. Will have to keep checking every now and then I guess. Handy tool. It’s decoding the aliases correctly as well which is great

 

[bravo14]

Today I notice the LRRP never seen this before on this system. Looks like some kind of IP Address?

 

[BM82557]

Here is a different one --

 

[mtindor]

Today I notice the LRRP never seen this before on this system. Looks like some kind of IP Address?

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Systems broadcast different kinds of LRRP data. There are various LRR messages. What you are seeing obviously isn’t very useful. On Duke, a Harris system, you can sometimes see actual latitude, longitude direction information. @RaleighGuy has posted pictures of her before.

On most P25 systems, if you see those messages, usually they’ll latitude longitude stuff is sent over the mobile frequency coming from the mobile unit and you have to be monitoring the mobile frequency and be close enough to pick it up

 

[mtindor]

Here is a different one --

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I erased this explanation cause I think it wasn’t quite right. I think what happened is DSD plus saw OTA alias information, unscramble form, and compared it to what was in your dot radios file. The OTA alias information was different, so it sent that OTA information to the server for processing and eventually you get back the up-to-date clear text alias.

 

[mtindor]

Here is a different one --

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All of those new messages that you posted have to do with DSD plus recognizing that the system sends OT alias information in a scrambled fashion. It collects it. It sends it to essential server. The OTA alias is unscrambled into a clear text, alias and then at some point usually within 24 hours set back to your DSD plus so that you see the actual clear text alias

 

[bravo14]

Systems broadcast different kinds of LRRP data. There are various LRR messages. What you are seeing obviously isn’t very useful. On Duke, a Harris system, you can sometimes see actual latitude, longitude direction information. @RaleighGuy has posted pictures of her before.

On most P25 systems, if you see those messages, usually they’ll latitude longitude stuff is sent over the mobile frequency coming from the mobile unit and you have to be monitoring the mobile frequency and be close enough to pick it up

I've seen that on the Duke Energy and some power companies around me gives location and speed.

 

[mtindor]

I've seen that on the Duke Energy and some power companies around me gives location and speed.

Yeah, the Duke P2 system sends that information right over the control channel for latitude, longitude, etc. but most if not all Motorola P25 systems I believe send that data only from the mobile units and so you have to be monitoring the mobile frequency to get the information. I know that on. WVSIRN I’ve seen that latitude and longitude stuff when monitoring and mobile frequency, but only from certain agencies. Not every agency was transmitting that information from the mobile side. In fact, most agencies were not. WVsP was. On Ohio MARCS I’ve also seen that latitude and longitude information coming from Mobile state troopers, but have never seen it from any other agency

 

[dave3825]

Today I notice the LRRP never seen this before on this system. Looks like some kind of IP Address?

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I was seeing something exactly like that also today. Maybe the Westchester County system.

And now I am seeing it on NJICS site 9 Cape May

 

[RaleighGuy]

Letting my DSD+ run since yesterday and am pleased to see the progress being made, really like the new feature of OTA alias decoding. This is a great tool for trying to figure out who is using encrypted TGs. Over 1100 decodes on my system so far and quickly growing.

 

[bravo14]

Letting my DSD+ run since yesterday and am pleased to see the progress being made, really like the new feature of OTA alias decoding. This is a great tool for trying to figure out who is using encrypted TGs. Over 1100 decodes on my system so far and quickly growing.

Which system? Did it cover TG & RID?

 

[mtindor]

Which system? Did it cover TG & RID?

TG & RID? No system spits out TG names. It covered RIDs. It was Cary/Wake County