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And just how is this FAIR to the OTHER SELLERS Jeff at the Ham Station, Scannermaster , zip and the other small sellers EBAY going to give them $100 each also I THINK NOT FLEEBA. THE SELLER would have sold every scanner he had if he had posted in RR about being authorized seller and a price of $649 and free shipping he chose the wrong platform to sell his scanners.
 

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And just how is this FAIR to the OTHER SELLERS Jeff at the Ham Station, Scannermaster , zip and the other small sellers EBAY going to give them $100 each also I THINK NOT FLEEBA. THE SELLER would have sold every scanner he had if he had posted in RR about being authorized seller and a price of $649 and free shipping he chose the wrong platform to sell his scanners.

And posting that would have been a violation of RR rules.
 

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And just how is this FAIR to the OTHER SELLERS Jeff at the Ham Station, Scannermaster , zip and the other small sellers EBAY going to give them $100 each also I THINK NOT FLEEBA. THE SELLER would have sold every scanner he had if he had posted in RR about being authorized seller and a price of $649 and free shipping he chose the wrong platform to sell his scanners.


You didn't make much sense there, at least to me.

The seller did nothing wrong. eBay did nothing wrong. eBay was offering a coupon - not the seller's fault nor Uniden's business - to attract customers. 20% off ANY ONE PURCHASE. Not specific to this scanner.

The seller had it advertised properly ($649.99). All that has to be said and easy to understand. The coupon shouldn't have been a factor except that buyers could save a little for a few hours timeframe.
 

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You didn't make much sense there, at least to me.

The seller did nothing wrong. eBay did nothing wrong. eBay was offering a coupon - not the seller's fault nor Uniden's business - to attract customers. 20% off ANY ONE PURCHASE. Not specific to this scanner.

The seller had it advertised properly ($649.99). All that has to be said and easy to understand. The coupon shouldn't have been a factor except that buyers could save a little for a few hours timeframe.

It's really not that difficult to understand this is it? :confused:

Especially when the eBay FAQ's about coupons state this...

Will I know if a buyer has used a coupon on a payment?
No, since coupons are automatically converted to regular currency at the time of redemption, you will not be aware that a coupon was used to fund the payment.
 

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I actually read that earlier today, and found the part about MAP agreements not dictating the actual sales price very interesting. Meaning that the eBay seller probably only had to list it at the MAP but could legitimately accept the coupon or even Best Offer.

yes, what hurt him is it basically was ratted out to uniden by posting here. if it was sent around by pm he never would of got into the situation. I have to abide by MAP agreements for alot of manufacturers but just about every one will tell you as long as its not posted in my store or any website what payment price goes threw the register is between me and the customer.

MAP agreements help smaller business like mine compete against ones with bigger buying power. the manufacturer could probably make more running all sales threw sites like amazon but alot prefer a faithful dealer network instead.
 

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yes, what hurt him is it basically was ratted out to uniden by posting here. if it was sent around by pm he never would of got into the situation. I have to abide by MAP agreements for alot of manufacturers but just about every one will tell you as long as its not posted in my store or any website what payment price goes threw the register is between me and the customer.

MAP agreements help smaller business like mine compete against ones with bigger buying power. the manufacturer could probably make more running all sales threw sites like amazon but alot prefer a faithful dealer network instead.

Yep! Again, Uniden had no business doing what they did. The seller was 100% compliant before he "got in trouble". Even though the coupon was posted "publicly" here, his MAP was still the required MAP. Period.

As Kevin said - easy to understand! Not sure why some don't. Paul and Uniden look 100% bad here, no way around it.
 

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Yep! Again, Uniden had no business doing what they did. The seller was 100% compliant before he "got in trouble". Even though the coupon was posted "publicly" here, his MAP was still the required MAP. Period.

As Kevin said - easy to understand! Not sure why some don't. Paul and Uniden look 100% bad here, no way around it.
Once it was posted here though it became an advantage for him and guessing uniden wanted it stopped.

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I've seen companies post no price until you put into cart so they can get around the "advertised" part. They even mention they can't show due to the manufacturer.
 

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I've seen companies post no price until you put into cart so they can get around the "advertised" part. They even mention they can't show due to the manufacturer.
I used to do that but the google shopping feature manufacturers started to be able to see and I got notices on it.

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Once it was posted here though it became an advantage for him and guessing uniden wanted it stopped.

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Irrelevant. It was not Uniden's business what incentive or coupon eBay was offering at checkout...

They literally got on to a seller for complying with their rules - $649.99 MAP! Then they made him increase the price and lose sells. That's how they take care of dealers/sellers? ha!
 

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Here's a rather interesting development to this whole SDS100 eBay coupon debacle. I just logged into my eBay account (01:45 AM EDT on 06-08-2018) and saw that I had an eBay coupon available for $10 off any eBay purchase over $30. I then went to the current SDS100 listing by webtron-x (https://www.ebay.com/itm/123177397896?ViewItem=&item=123177397896) and added one to my cart for $649.99. I then added my personal eBay coupon code on the checkout page and "Voila" I could now purchase the SDS100 for $639.99! I saw no reason to do so seeing that I had already purchased one yesterday for $549.99 and it is being delivered today by FedEx. Will the price on eBay now be raised to $659.99 to compensate for this new $10 coupon?

On another note it appears that these SDS100 scanners are not really in that much demand right now as evidenced by the inventory of webtron-x. He admitted here on RR that he initially received 5, then 60 and then 40 resulting in 105 total available units. Per the purchase/sales information posted on eBay he sold 23 yesterday (20 sold during the period when you could purchase it for $549.99 with the $100 eBay coupon) and only 2 more today after the price got "lowered back" to $649.99 from the raised price of $749.99. Doing the math that's 25 units sold out of 105.

I would expect webtron-x to be moving much more inventory if there was very high demand for this scanner at the moment. According to my numbers he is sitting on 80 available units right now (assuming that ALL of his sales are being made on eBay which may or may not be the case) even though he is selling it for the $649.99 MAP, is offering a 30-day return policy, is including FREE ground shipping and is charging NO sales tax (except 5.6% to Wisconsin where they are located). FYI the current eBay listing states "More than 10 available." Perhaps all of the diehard early adopters have already purchased their units elsewhere and the rest of the potential buyers are waiting to read the actual street reviews from the field before deciding to pull the trigger???
 

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Lesson learned and a large amount of volume of radios could of been sold and everybody from Uniden and the seller and the buyers and Ebay would of all been happy and the end of the day.

I tried to buy one and take advantage of a Father's Day special and I was not going to buy one and wait until the base unit was released. O well the ordeal is over with and that's it.

Now its time to move on and see where the next deal will be. Maybe wait now until the price starts to drop in the next few months most likely.
 

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After uniden teased us with the Siren app, someone needs to make an Android control app for a Uniden scanner.
Just tested the TRX Android Suite (TRX Android Suite) and it actually works very nicely with a PRO-18 updated to Whistler firmware.
You can use it on your phone and listen to and control the scanner from anywhere over a data connection.
If only ProScan would make an android app!!

That being said, this entire ebay thing is a clustermess. The seller was totally legal, he had NOTHING to do with the ebay offer, he merely listed his goods for sale,
Then Uniden jumped in, and instead of saying HEY, IT IS LISTED FOR MAP GO AWAY I WANT TO SELL MY INVENTORY
He raised the price $100. And YES, if anyone used the coupon to buy it for $749, he made an extra $100
BAD BAD way to react, should have just taken down the auction until that evening.
Now many of us are left with a very bad taste in our mouth for both uniden and this seller, who will never see a dime from me at any price.
 

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A large volume of radios couldn’t have been sold. There are only maybe 10,000 in existence on the entire planet right now. Paul did say the first batch was going to be small, and this is such a niche market anyway. Not too many people in the world are interested in radios or scanning.
 

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Not too many people in the world are interested in radios or scanning.

It's a niche group, no doubt, compounded by the fact that those who use these radios as a tool for other activities are slowly turning to other forms of "communications" to find out what they need, such as (ugh!) Facebook postings, Twitter accounts, and direct text messages from other, like-minded, individuals, etc. If one individual with a radio is sending information to 20, 40, 200, or a lot more, individuals, that's 200+ other radios not being sold. We must also take into consideration local laws starting to come down hard on mere possession of such radios.

The changes in radio technology has also cut into the desire or need for a scanner, since most people can't be bothered with the programming issues, as well as not getting the Motorola quality of the signal on them.

The prices will stay high for the time being, in order for the manufacturers to recoup their investments, but I think that, as the technology becomes increasingly more complicated, there will eventually no longer be a market for personally-owned, hand-held, scanner radios, nor will they be feasible to be owned.
 

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He’s not entirely wrong. The SDS100 may be the last generation of scanner I buy as virtually every system around here is going encrypted or using some proprietary unmonitorable digital protocol as they are being replaced. If upon completion the new statewide system decides to flip the switch, that’ll be the final nail in the coffin for me. I can listen to conventional analog systems and aviation just fine on basically every scanner I’ve bought in the last 10-15 years, so there won’t be a need to upgrade to the latest $5-600 radio every 4 or 5 years.
 

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What digital format can you not get? That does not mean the new SDS100 could not be UPDATED to get it in the future.
The X36 series was upgraded to receive 3 new DMR PROVOICE and NXDN. The 996P2 series has been upgraded to 1 DMR so far it may be maxed out and it may not be maxed out with new formats.
 

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What digital format can you not get? That does not mean the new SDS100 could not be UPDATED to get it in the future.
The X36 series was upgraded to receive 3 new DMR PROVOICE and NXDN. The 996P2 series has been upgraded to 1 DMR so far it may be maxed out and it may not be maxed out with new formats.

Yeah but it’s a bit of a cat and mouse game. For now we’re mostly covered. The big E is really the main issue, and I don’t think streaming or the online database is really a factor. It’s really more of the public safety community wanting to hide what they get up to. But I digress, and it’s time to get back to discussing how Uniden screwed some folks by not letting them buy an SDS100 for whatever price they deem fair.
 
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