155.22 is only for wheelchairs now. MedEvac 17 (and other helos) calls in on 462.95 and is then assigned to a Med channel for one of the hospitals. The transmission comes thru on the TG for that hospital.
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Ok, thanks!
You can also hear Stat Medevac on their company frequencies; 155.265 & 159.480.
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Well... after starting this back in August 2016, I am listening to the P25 on my HP-2 and it seems to work fine. Obviously digital with some of that sound effect, but that was to be expected. I have all the TG's programmed that are currently at this site. Obviously no more police fun of hearing dispatches to German St. or Treetop Dr., but it is what it is.
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I'm seriously considering moving to another town. The lack of transparency is a bad sign.
Go to the next county council / commissioners meeting and express your views - this is how local government works.
Grappy and Erie PD chief aren't going to change their minds Spoke to both and refused to answer any of my questions. Just kept repeating the same talking point that PSP is encrypted they should too. Both also stated they are happy the public and media can't monitor and Grappy said the media will never be allowed to have radios. Bottom line sue. It's your tax dollars and the airwaves belong to the people.
That is one sad state of affairs. Nice open attitude to have to the public who deserves transparency from its public safety forces. How come on the news every day we hear excerpts from Broadcastify from many major cities who are not encrypted? I proposed to John Groh Millcreek Supervisor that they consider putting Millcreek PD dispatch on their web site like Akron PD does, with a small delay. Never got an answer back.
Wrong on two points. The Federal and most if not all local governments have sovereign immunity and cannot be sued in court. And the airwaves do not belong to the people. Just because you pay taxes, doesn't mean you own everything they support.
I don't know the politics in Erie County, however as a department head, Mr. Grappy serves at the pleasure of the county executive and / or the county council. The Chief of Police answers also answers to elected officials (unlike a Sheriff.) That is why citizens should petition their elected officials, and bypass the entrenched bureaucrats if they are being intransigent.
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I thought I read they stated non-encryption was a threat to security. However, in the past our trusty Bearcats were part of neighborhood watch, actually an enhancement to Erie security. By definition non-transparency increases mistrust, but I feel it's also less security rather than more.
Well said. It's just common sense the more eyes watching neighborhoods, etc. the better.
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This is wrong. People can, and frequently do, sue governments, absolutely. The federal government requires a judge to allow the suit, but that's the only restriction there.
But yes, do bug your elected officials. The bureaucrats do serve at their pleasure.
Still trying to figure out what the whole point of this digital radio system was if the dispatchers are going to simulcast one-way transmissions all day long on the analog "paging" channel. Reminds me of 33.980 low band or a half-duplex (PSP VHF analog) sytem, where all I hear is dispatch. Why don't you just enable the repeater and you have a Countywide Fire Channel 1? Oh, what the county wanted couldn't be accomplished with analog, now I remember.
Guess we had to fork over all this money for a digital radio system when the same thing is half being accomplished on analog. Hmm...
Just my two cents.
Oh, and is it necessary to have an MDC-1200 data burst on the analog transmissions? I don't think so, and it actually cuts out the beginning parts of some transmissions with the dispatchers who have the 'quick key'. Stupid, stupid.
Guess we had to fork over all this money for a digital radio system when the same thing is half being accomplished on analog. Hmm...
Just my two cents.
Oh, and is it necessary to have an MDC-1200 data burst on the analog transmissions? I don't think so, and it actually cuts out the beginning parts of some transmissions with the dispatchers who have the 'quick key'. Stupid, stupid.
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I agree the paging is kind of "old school" when considered against this fancy new system. The sound quality is not that great, and you do have to listen to that data burst, but it is kind of nice for users who didn't want/need a new scanner. Maybe they will add a repeater down the road, and we'd be back to where we started for a lot less money! I'll take what I can get, and the versatility with old and new scanners works OK with me.
The design philosophy appears to be enabling all First Responders (police and fire) the ability to maintain two-way communications in any area of the county including inside buildings in both rural and urban areas. Hard to do that with VHF.
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I want to get the new sd 2000 scanner but being that Trumbull county went digital i decide to not get it. i believe this is hurting the scanner
business. Also It's funny they don't want us listening to them. But all ways asking for public help to solve crimes.
business. Also It's funny they don't want us listening to them. But all ways asking for public help to solve crimes.
The SDS is the best scanner for P25 (digital,) but no scanner can decode encryption. Trumbull Co. (OH) looks to have encrypted law enforcement channels, but open fire comms on the MARCS system.
The SDS200 is still having quality/noise issues. If you want one, make sure you do your research first!
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Mine doesn't. It's an widely exaggerated issue.The SDS200 is still having quality/noise issues. If you want one, make sure you do your research first!
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