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[karldotcom]

Sure is....LCN 593

 

[Mick]

Karl, can you explain what LCN 593 is? Is that the FCC assigned number for the frq of 482.20?

 

[karldotcom]

I think the radio system people assign those. Anyway, they pop up in Unitrunker when you tune to the control channel...and you can figure out, using some math, what frequency they are.

 

[karldotcom]

A group of elected officials, city managers, first responders, and radio communications experts gather on the Rose Bowl field during the annual strategic planning session meeting held on December 4, 2008.

Later that day, ICIS hosted a luncheon to honor Congressman Adam Schiff and present him with an award for his leadership on interoperability. Pictured are Burbank Fire Chief Tracy Pansini, Glendale Police Chief Randy Adams, former Culver City Council Member Steve Rose, Burbank City Council Member Marsha Ramos, Congressman Adam Schiff, Burbank City Manager Mary Alvord, Glendale City Manager Jim Starbird, Culver City Fire Chief Jeff Eastman and Glendale Battalion Chief and ICIS Executive Director Don Wright. (icisradio.org)



FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE DECEMBER 1, 2008

Cities that are part of a unique municipal radio system this week will be celebrating five years of interoperability. Member cities of the Interagency Communications Interoperability System (ICIS) will be marking the milestone during a meeting and luncheon on Thursday, December 4, at the Pasadena Rose Bowl Stadium Media Room. Congressman Adam Schiff, who represents Glendale, Burbank, Pasadena and cities in the San Gabriel Valley, will be honored during the group’s noontime luncheon for his leadership and contributions to the ICIS network.

ICIS Executive Director, Glendale Battalion Chief Don Wright, says the five year anniversary is a tremendous accomplishment. “We’ve come a long way since 2003,” says Wright. “The ICIS network is the most advanced municipal radio system in the Los Angeles area.” Wright says the creation of a Joint Powers Agreement (JPA) between the cities helped move the system forward. Participating agencies include the cities of Glendale, Burbank, Pasadena, Beverly Hills, Culver City, Pomona and Montebello. Subscribers to the system include the Bob Hope Airport, Glendale Community College Police, LA IMPACT and the Fire Departments of Alhambra, Arcadia, Monrovia, Monterey Park, San Gabriel, San Marino, Sierra Madre and South Pasadena.

The ICIS radio system is a shared system with components purchased and constructed by individual cities and linked together through a microwave network in order to provide regional coverage. By sharing member cities’ radio infrastructure, users are able to roam from system to system without user intervention and without the expense of constructing additional radio towers. It’s proven to be a valuable tool, especially for public safety agencies.

Over the years, the ICIS system has received funding from various sources. One of the system’s biggest supporters has been Schiff, who has pushed for Federal funding. “With the constant threat of an earthquake, forest fire and a new era of homeland security demands, it is imperative that our firefighters, police, first responders and public officials
have the ability to communicate in a time of crisis,” Schiff says. “The cities in our region continue to lead the way in the development of interoperable communications systems. Whether chasing a suspect across city lines, reacting to a hillside fire, or worse, it is imperative that our emergency responders have the ability to communicate quickly and uninterrupted.”

Through the coordinated efforts of the member cities and agencies, millions in grant funds were secured to expand the system. ICIS received $500,000 in the Fiscal Year 2005 Federal Appropriations Bill while an additional $2 million was secured through the Urban Area Security Initiative grant program. Another $683,300 was secured by Schiff in 2008.

Today the ICIS JPA oversees a network of more than 7,500 radios and a system that covers more than a third of the Los Angeles region. In 2006, ICIS was awarded the prestigious Helen Putnam Award of Excellence under the category of “Effective Advocacy, Intergovernmental Relations and Regional Cooperation.”

 

[rgv1971]

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[karldotcom]

Getting a lot of encrypted activity on TG39472, with the radio IDs in the 56000-57103 range (46 of them)....

and those radios also use TGs 39440, 39456, 39504

 

[icis_monitor]

I have been wondering if their is any talking about having metrolink switch to the icis as everywhere they go icis already is. i like riding the trains and it would be a big help if i oinly had to scan trunking at all. has anyone heard anything like that or is it just my pipe dream?

 

[karldotcom]

Doubtful

 

[jrholm]

Are you talking about the trains or L/E. Law enforcement is provided by LASD, so that's not going to move away from their own system. Also Metrolink currently goes far beyond current ICIS coverage. the entire system goes from Oceanside to Ventura County and into San Berdo. and Riverside counties too.

 

[karldotcom]

Interesting point, assuming LASD keeps the contract and the whizbang County Trunked System gets built, they will probably need to keep TSB as a regular frequency....

 

[jwing]

Is there anyone in this group using Unitrunker to monitor ICIS?

I was wondering if there was anyone around that would be willing to share their "SOURCE LABELS" file with me. After monitoring Verdugo Fire all day with Unitrunker, I was able to collect some info, but I was thinking somebody may have the whole system by now. I am not looking for Talk Group info like what is listed in the RR Database, but the ID's of individual radios. An example of what I mean is Red 1 Dispatch is Talk Group 33616, but the Verdugo dispatcher is 35381, engine 74 is 47925, etc. Thanks for any info.

Robert

 

[karldotcom]

is that the Motorola891D.xml file?

 

[Tobio63]

I am confused on rather or not ICIS is P25? It operates on Motorola's Astro25 software, leaving me to believe that it is, but I have not found anything that states ICIS is a P25 system.

Also, why doesn't LA-RICS adopt ICIS proven interoperability system and implement it countywide? Why do you need two systems?

 

[jlanfn]

I am confused on rather or not ICIS is P25? It operates on Motorola's Astro25 software, leaving me to believe that it is, but I have not found anything that states ICIS is a P25 system.

It's a Motorola Smartzone system, not a P25 standard system.

 

[WayneH]

It's a Motorola Smartzone system, not a P25 standard system.

Technically Motorola calls their P25 Trunking platform SmartZone also. The differences are denoted by version number. In the case of ICIS they're running SmartZone 4.x. True P25 Trunking has been anything higher than 6.x.

Typically the difference is explained as 3600 versus 9600 (control channel speed), and even Motorola does this too to simplify things.

 

[Tobio63]

La-rics?

I came across this article the other day and this forum reminded me of it. Could the team of Raytheon, EADS, Powerwave, and Etherstake pull off LA-RICS. Who else is competing for LA-RICS? Will Harris now do it because they bought M/A-Com?

EADS joins team vying to build L.A. regional interoperable network | Los Angeles Regional Interoperable Communications System | LA-RICS | Raytheon - Urgent Communications article

Does anyone know how ICIS is going to figure into LA-RICS?

 

[karldotcom]

The plans I have seen said ICIS would have to upgrade to full P25 (9600 baud) and LA RICS would integrate it.

Since the large agencies have invested in P25 radios, I don't see how this thing will end being Open Sky or anything....but you never know....depends how much the decision makers are greased by the bidders.

 

[Tobio63]

The end of ICIS for LA-RICS?

I've been hearing that ICIS will not fit into LA-RICS and that the ICIS system would have to be redone because the difference in the number of frequencies required. I doen't make sense that the ICIS system would have to be totally redone. Does anyone have any insight rather or not this is the case?

 

[karldotcom]

March 2009 - The CEO and the Sheriff's department are exploring various
opportunities within the economic stimulus package for funding a shared region-wide
voice and data radio system. The Los Angeles Regional Interoperable
Communications System (LA-RICS) wil improve the emergency and day-to-day
communications of the public safety agencies of Los Angeles County.

 

[karldotcom]

http://www.icisradio.org/pdf/agendasminutes/ICIS_Minutes_050709.pdf

There is some Pasadena ICIS news at the link.....