ICI Trunked System - Posts your new findings here!

[oracavon]

I was listening to the Glendale Cell (site 001). It's the only one I get good reception on, so it's the only one I have programmed in. I frequently hear Culver City PD and Culver City Fire analog TGs on that site.

38368 a digital TG. As far as I know, all 5-digit TG numbers on Motorola systems are digital and lower numbers are analog - at least that's what I find on the ICIS and Orange County systems.

edits: fixed typos

 

[karldotcom]

34336 - some type of air group with air 44 the eggbeater that flies around Montebello and other areas..

 

[karldotcom]

Found this in the Verdugo Fire meeting minutes....would explain all the testing that was done in Monterey Park last month...

http://www.unified-response.org/pdf/verdugotaskforce/051110.pdf

MPK – Possible 10% pay cut across the board. Requesting RED11 back. EA Wise estimates 2 weeks on installation. Noted that on 5/10 a fatality incident on Monterey Pass Rd where the units could not communicate with each other.

MRV - Question about Motorola radio project in Pasadena; EA Wise estimates project to be completed sometime this next fiscal year.

 

[LZJSR]

Verdugo on new TG ID???

I programmed my BCD996XT and had not heard traffic for a while on Verdugo, so I checked my settings and found I had to set it for a P25 Single Channel trunk system. Then, I started getting traffic, but now I hear Red 1 on TGID 2101 with NAC 1D3. Anybody know why why I am not picking up traffic on TGID 33616 as the Radio Reference Database shows?

 

[jlanfn]

I programmed my BCD996XT and had not heard traffic for a while on Verdugo, so I checked my settings and found I had to set it for a P25 Single Channel trunk system. Then, I started getting traffic, but now I hear Red 1 on TGID 2101 with NAC 1D3. Anybody know why why I am not picking up traffic on TGID 33616 as the Radio Reference Database shows?

2101 (I think it's displayed as "802101" on Motorola system equipment) is the same talkgroup as 33616, they're just different ways of displaying the same thing. If you want your scanner to show 33616 instead of 2101, you would need to change the scanner's display settings. (I don't know how to do that on a Uniden, but it would probably involve changing some talkgroup display parameter from "Motorola" to "Decimal".)

BTW, 2101 is 33616 divided by 16. Each talkgroup is 16 numbers apart (16, 32, 48, 64, 80, 96, ...) so 33616 is the 2101st talkgroup.

 

[LZJSR]

Ah-Ha! Thanks so much...that explains it!

 

[LZJSR]

OK, still having problems with Oat Mtn site on ICIS for the BCD996XT..does anyone have a ARC XT file with the proper settings. I have tried P25 single channel trunk, control channel only, P25, and other settings, but still only getting sporadic reception from Santa Clarita of the Oat Mtn site. I am trying to listen to Verdugo, but have not had much luck. If you don't have a file, can someone post the exact settings, including if I need to put a custom band plan in place, and applicable check boxes to check when setting up the system and Oat Mtn sites? I would really appreciate it...

Thanks!

 

[K6CDO]

OK, still having problems with Oat Mtn site on ICIS for the BCD996XT..does anyone have a ARC XT file with the proper settings. I have tried P25 single channel trunk, control channel only, P25, and other settings, but still only getting sporadic reception from Santa Clarita of the Oat Mtn site. I am trying to listen to Verdugo, but have not had much luck. If you don't have a file, can someone post the exact settings, including if I need to put a custom band plan in place, and applicable check boxes to check when setting up the system and Oat Mtn sites? I would really appreciate it...

Thanks!

Just as a point of information (if you were not aware of it) - The way ICIS is configured, If there is no ICIS user affiliated with the Oat Mtn. site at the time you are listening, the site will not carry any voice traffic. That is why the InteleRepeater sites can get away with fewer channels than the main sites.

Don

 

[LZJSR]

Thanks for the reply. The problem is that Verdugo does broadcast over Oat Mtn, as does Culver City (from what I understand), but I am just having little luck. The fact that it is a digital and trunked system on ICIS is causing my problems. Hopefully someone who has successfully programmed a BCD996XT for ICIS can let me know what the proper settings are when I set up the system...it is getting a bit frustrating at this point.

Thanks again

 

[karldotcom]

Was reading the last batch of ICIS meeting notes....and learned


South Pasadena PD is apparently on the air....wonder what the talkgroup is?

Vernon Fire has inquired into joining Verdugo Fire for dispatching....and a possible antenna on the Vernon Water Tower

(I still laugh about that....it is a giant water tower off Soto St. Vernon is a funky city...I was taking pictures of a train and saw their power plant security carrying AR-15s....serious! )

AMR had asked for 100 units to be on ICIS....I would think that would be a revenue generator for the system?

The Pasadena cell is still planned at a 15 channel system....I was told they were going to borrow LASD narrowband frequencies starting in the 477-mhz range for this.

 

[fender1878]

Does anybody know if (a) Pasadena PD is on ICIS yet and (b) what TGs they're using?

 

[monitor142]

FYI, ICIS is not P25. It is still using Motorola SmartZone technology. The key here is the data channel is still 3600 so the scanner will not function under a P25 setting. P25 audio on talkgroups...yes but not a full P25 compliant system yet. The P25 system is a work in progress for them.

-M142

OK, still having problems with Oat Mtn site on ICIS for the BCD996XT..does anyone have a ARC XT file with the proper settings. I have tried P25 single channel trunk, control channel only, P25, and other settings, but still only getting sporadic reception from Santa Clarita of the Oat Mtn site. I am trying to listen to Verdugo, but have not had much luck. If you don't have a file, can someone post the exact settings, including if I need to put a custom band plan in place, and applicable check boxes to check when setting up the system and Oat Mtn sites? I would really appreciate it...

Thanks!

 

[monitor142]

Makes sense Karl. Someone needs to start making some noise on these new licenses and I'm not talking about a standalone repeater here or there or some simplex use at the Parks. They really need to start building something out ASAP slow growth license or not. They could also push a few of the VHF cities to use some of the new TV Ch. 15 spectrum too, that is if budgets permit.

-M142

Karl wrote:
The Pasadena cell is still planned at a 15 channel system....I was told they were going to borrow LASD narrowband frequencies starting in the 477-mhz range for this.

 

[judas12]

Does anyone know Montebello schoool police talkgroup?

 

[karldotcom]

LASD SRC was on ICIS Mutual Aid 5 earlier this afternoon trying to raise another unit at Crown IC to talk about the new channel lineup for LASD Dispatch in the AV this evening. It appears some other techs and Pasadena folks were on it today also

 

[karldotcom]

Now this sounds to be LA County Radio Techs using ICIS to talk between East Los Angeles SCC and McDill or Hauser Peak....they are working on the LASD repeaters right now trying to bring them back up for the Antelope Valley and testing "Data Channel 8" which I assume is an MDT channel.

 

[K6CDO]

Now this sounds to be LA County Radio Techs using ICIS to talk between East Los Angeles SCC and McDill or Hauser Peak....they are working on the LASD repeaters right now trying to bring them back up for the Antelope Valley and testing "Data Channel 8" which I assume is an MDT channel.

I think the often-asked question "Does the Hauser ICIS site actually operate?" has been answered.

 

[karldotcom]

This morning I noticed Montebello PD operating on 36752 for Dispatch. Anyone else notice this?

 

[patin]

montebello pd

yeah i have DISPATCH 36752 and TAC 36768 digital

 

[monitor142]

Probably was the ITD techs. They kind of lost the Mt. McDill site...rather the radio room burned to the ground taking out LASD, LA Cty FD, several microwave hops and possibly the EDACS system up there if the techs were using ICIS. Serious loss of some irreplaceable RF infrastructure (old and no longer made nor probably supported). They were doing the "radio tech's scramble" to restore comms at Hauser probably. I'm not too well versed on coverage of McDill versus Hauser but they are going to be busy for a while until a new shelter and RF equipment can be built and procured at McDill.

Now this sounds to be LA County Radio Techs using ICIS to talk between East Los Angeles SCC and McDill or Hauser Peak....they are working on the LASD repeaters right now trying to bring them back up for the Antelope Valley and testing "Data Channel 8" which I assume is an MDT channel.