BCD160DN/BCD260DN: Is this a new Uniden model? BCD260DN

[bob550]

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[03msc]

Reminding myself again...

"...this is in the Tavern...this is in the Tavern..."

 

[YoShep69]

able to scan all 25 service searches at once?

Why?

 

[N8IAA]

So I want to get clarification if possible, you are saying the lack of new scanners by Whistler and uniden is because the government turned off the new scanners, or what Uniden and Whistler can make because they want everything as you said it with the big E?

what about the current scanners like Whistlers tx1- tx2? 1040 and 1065 they will disable them? same with all uniden models?

do you have a link to this narrowband mandate? or shall I google it myself?

The government can't DISABLE scanners. Of course, if you mean that 'E' keeps you hearing communications, that still doesn't DISABLE your scanners. Just means that you can't monitor those frequencies for info anymore.

As far as the new Uniden scanners, no scanner can monitor ALL service searches at once. The searches will follow from lowest to highest frequencies, as well as, the order of services programmed into the scanner. The speed of the scanner is limite also.
You might be better served if you try to explain yourself more clearly.

 

[03msc]

Perhaps you meant service types instead of service searches?

 

[KevinC]

Perhaps you meant service types instead of service searches?

The posted slick sheet shows 25 Service Searches...seems like a lot.

 

[ProScan]

now back on topic to the new 160 and 260, will there be able to scan all 25 service searches at once? That is a good question to ask.

Yes. 25 Service List on the 260 and 24 on the 160. The 260 has one more ' Ham Radio 23cm' because the 160 doesn't cover that band.

 

[ProScan]

The posted slick sheet shows 25 Service Searches...seems like a lot.

They are broken down like this

 

[Akuriko]

They are broken down like this
View attachment 148547

That is really cool

 

[Ubbe]

How does it actually function if it does a Pub. Safety UHF service search when it can't do P25 nor trunked? What does it look for to be able to filter out those frequencies that are not public safety and just some industrial, roadwork or schools?

/Ubbe

 

[buddrousa]

A lot of Public Service here is still ANALOG DMR or NXDN in VHF UHF and 800

 

[radiopro52]

we dont have the funds to upgrade to Phase 2 digital however im waiting to see if they make phase 3 or 4 P25 scanners.

I read a long time ago that Phase 3 was in the works but haven't heard anything since. Many agencies are still getting by just fine with phase 1. It may never happen, so I wouldn't worry about it.

On topic, seeing as these new Uniden radios lack P25, they wouldn't be the best choice to be used as a traditional "police scanner" for monitoring public safety. They would, however, be a good candidate for the general hobbiest looking to monitor railroads and businesses. I live in an industrial town for example, with many manufacturing and processing plants that use DMR and NXDN radios for communications.

 

[mmckenna]

I read a long time ago that Phase 3 was in the works but haven't heard anything since.

Wideband/Broadband data. It's not going to be scanner friendly, it'll very likely be fully encrypted (like LTE) and it'll be too wide a signal for consumer scanners to even deal with.

Don't anyone hold their breath on Phase 3….

 

[Ubbe]

A lot of Public Service here is still ANALOG DMR or NXDN in VHF UHF and 800

Understood. And how does the scanner know that the transmission are a public safety one and not coming from any other type of service?
Does it have a big internal memory with the RR database so it can match a frequency to a service type? Or is it just a blind frequency range search so it would be more appropriate to just label the different service types with their actual frequency limit ranges?

/Ubbe

 

[buddrousa]

In the US Public Safety Frequencies are block listed they can be Analog, P25, DMR or NXDN.
You can have 460.150 Analog LAW in a county then 75 miles north you can have 460.150 DMR Law and 75 miles south you can have 460.150 NXDN Law.

 

[RCjim]

im still excited for these 2 new scanners lets hope Joe and uniden can delivery by the holidays i could see myself adding those to my list for my shack as well.

You may change your mind when you see the price I think! Or maybe I will be surprised at the price and pick the handheld one up!!

 

[Ubbe]

In the US Public Safety Frequencies are block listed

So those 25 service type searches are actually frequency ranges where only one type of service have been allocated and are allowed to be used by the FCC? The difference to normal frequency range searches are that a service search combines several ranges from VHF and UHF so that you do not need to do that by yourself, if the scanner actually had enough frequency ranges to program with all the needed ranges.

I understand now that it can quickly be full of systems in one service type range if they are not allowed to expand out of that band and frequency shortage will soon become an issue with higher license costs and system technology to reduce frequency allocations.

/Ubbe

 

[KevinC]

They are broken down like this
View attachment 148547

It will be interesting to see what frequencies will be included in the VHF Public Safety search.

 

[ProScan]

It will be interesting to see what frequencies will be included in the VHF Public Safety search.

Public Safety Low: 30.8200 to 47.6600
Public Safety Hi: 150.7750 to 169.5000

 

[garys]

Many agencies in MA are still getting along fine with analog. The only digital in my town is the DPW on DMR. Very few fire departments have adopted P25 other than a few that are on trunked systems. At that, they have analog fire ground channels.

I read a long time ago that Phase 3 was in the works but haven't heard anything since. Many agencies are still getting by just fine with phase 1. It may never happen, so I wouldn't worry about it.

On topic, seeing as these new Uniden radios lack P25, they wouldn't be the best choice to be used as a traditional "police scanner" for monitoring public safety. They would, however, be a good candidate for the general hobbiest looking to monitor railroads and businesses. I live in an industrial town for example, with many manufacturing and processing plants that use DMR and NXDN radios for communications.