KSICS Anchor Thread
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I'm going to be traveling to Winfied, Wellington, Ark City, Coffeeville & Independeance Kansas in a few days. I checked the data base doesn't look like they are up on The KSICS towers yet. Can any one tell me if they are on new freq's or still on the old one? If you have main dispatch channels for PD & SO for any or all those city's and counties I would be very thankful if you passed them along. Looking at a possible move and was wondering which cities were scanner friendly as well as what kind of things go on that you don't read in the newspaper.
shocker81
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Winfield, Wellington and Ark City frequencies
All of the frequencies you want can be found in the data base for those cities by looking in the county database. Sumner County will have your Wellington and Sumner County frequencies. Cowley County will have your Ark City and Winfield frequencies, and Montgomery County will have your Coffeyville, and Independence frequencies. Hope this helps.
All of the frequencies you want can be found in the data base for those cities by looking in the county database. Sumner County will have your Wellington and Sumner County frequencies. Cowley County will have your Ark City and Winfield frequencies, and Montgomery County will have your Coffeyville, and Independence frequencies. Hope this helps.
I see the data base shows Smith County and Osborne counties on P25 but never heard Osborne on it, but Smith County uses hand held radios, the most traffic I hear TG 1237,1238
Thank you I found it all.
From everything I'm hearing from other sources. it sounds like ALL the state 800 sites including the new one at Hays are trunked, rebanded and operational? However, the database still shows old information on several. Can anyone confirm that all the following have been rebanded: Corning, Flush, Blue Rapids; and trunked: Astor, Collano, McDonald, Oakley, Richfield, St Francis, Wallace, Hays? Thanks for helping to make the databse correct and current for all of us.
With the major budget problems that Sedwick county & Wichita are having has anyone heard how this is going to effect there switch over to the KSICS system or the rebanding? I talked to some one in Kingman county, they are not going to the Ksics system as there is no tower in the county so they are dispatching on the old freqs. I also talked to someone in Montgomery County they are rebanded but they are not going to the KSICS system either. I was told that having to big cities (Independence and coffeeville both about 10,000 in population each) plus the county they are not making the switch. I was told that they have the ability now to talk to everyone if they need to. (ie both fire departments, both police departments & county SO) the EMS is run by the Hospital so they might have trouble getting Ksics grants. So they are leaving it as is.
I can verify that Flush, Blue Rapids and Corning have been rebanded, I just haven't had time to submit them for update.
At night I do hear Hays pd & so on digital, but I think they are simocasting over both old and new freqrs. the talk group is 1400. Early this morning I heard Hays medical center radio checking with other county hospital in the NW section of the state. I think the talk group was 4910, but I'm not sure, after all it was being done at 2 am.
Probably 4019. That's the NW13 Med channel; likely doing roll calls of the ER's in that area. I will be in Hays this weekend for a wedding and will try to verify what I can of talkgroups and towers. dg
now that you mention it, it was 4019. at least I had all the numbers right. just not in the right order. thanks for correcting me. I should have looked it up before I posted. Thats my mistake.
dbentley445
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I have heard Hays Medical Center trying to talk with its Pawnee Valley Community Hospital (PVCH) in the SC-9 Med Group. Unfortunately the Radio is not turned on at PVCH and it has a note on it telling staff not to use it until they are trained.
FYI: On the first Monday of every month a roll call test is done for all hospital at around 10:30am using the Med Channel
FYI: On the first Monday of every month a roll call test is done for all hospital at around 10:30am using the Med Channel
You have to be "trained" to use a radio? WOW! What a novel concept. I know more than a few Fire Deptartments that should hear of this idea! (Oh, I'm so going to get flamed for that one...) and maybe even a few Sheriff's offices....
Have you SEEN the new digital 800 radios???? Simplicity was definitely not a consideration in their design. Nor in the layout of the state template. I wouldn't let any nurse, firefighter, cop or anyone else touch one either until some in-depth training was done. The days of 2 channels and a volume and squelch knob are long gone for sure
And the best you can do for a single talkgroup control station is a $2000 96 channel radio???I'm back from my trip to Ellis County to get my son hitched. All the digital sites within range are trunked and operational, including the new Hays site.I'd venture a guess that ALL sites are now digital trunked. I'll get the updates of what I captured to the db administrator. One thing I didn't hear was any kind of simulcast of Ellis County on KSICS. Just them, still on their analog 8 channel system, although I did hear what sounded like P25 encryption on the ER channel (ER side only, surprisingly). Trego and Russell Counties are active on KSICS.
Have you SEEN the new digital 800 radios???? Simplicity was definitely not a consideration in their design. Nor in the layout of the state template. I wouldn't let any nurse, firefighter, cop or anyone else touch one either until some in-depth training was done. The days of 2 channels and a volume and squelch knob are long gone for sure
Yeah, I have, and you are completely correct, they are definitely not simple "On/Off, Push here to talk" anymore. Part of the problem though is, somewhere along the line, someone came up with the idea that if you only put 3 or 4 controls on the radio and make those "multi-function," the device is "easier" to use for the novice user. All this really does is confuse everybody. The control that does something in one mode does something else completely in another mode or menu level. The problems come in when everybody takes their radio and tries to "personalize" it. Then someone changes a setting that shouldn't get changed and you get yelled at because you don't answer them right away and their radio was working just fine last week so it can't be the radio....
The biggest problem though is that so many "volunteer" departments don't realize until it bites them in the proverbial spot how important good communications can become. One saving thing I have heard recently though is many agencies actually adding "radio discipline" as a part of their training programs. Even Yoder Tech is preaching this now.
factorone
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Have you SEEN the new digital 800 radios???? Simplicity was definitely not a consideration in their design. Nor in the layout of the state template. I wouldn't let any nurse, firefighter, cop or anyone else touch one either until some in-depth training was done. The days of 2 channels and a volume and squelch knob are long gone for sure
I'm back from my trip to Ellis County to get my son hitched. All the digital sites within range are trunked and operational, including the new Hays site.I'd venture a guess that ALL sites are now digital trunked. I'll get the updates of what I captured to the db administrator. One thing I didn't hear was any kind of simulcast of Ellis County on KSICS. Just them, still on their analog 8 channel system, although I did hear what sounded like P25 encryption on the ER channel (ER side only, surprisingly). Trego and Russell Counties are active on KSICS.
Seconded on the 800 radios being complicated. We're an EF Johnson dealer for P25 out here in the KC area, and even the simple handhelds we carry are complicated as hell, and take an engineering degree to program.
I talked with my cousin who's a Troop D trooper out of Wakeeney, and he said that they added Ellis County's main TGs to the KSICS in order to ease interoperability in that area, being that Ellis SO and KHP tend to work in tandem quite a bit (along with Russell and Trego SOs, mainly for traffic stops, service render stops, and 10-32s). The weird thing is, most of the KHP cars out there have scanners to listen in on the Ellis TRS and other VHF/UHF traffic around the area as it is. Maybe the state is cutting back on those to save money (which wouldn't surprise me).
That's the way it is in southwest Kansas. I know several Troopers have scanners in their cars to listen to other LEO traffic to see if their help is needed. I thought those scanners were bought by the Troopers not the state. I also have heard that Troopers on the road are not happy with the encryption that some county and cities are going to. Their feeling is that by encrypting so bad guys can't listen to where officers are is putting officers at risk due to other agenices can't hear whats going on around them so they can help or get ready for something headed their way.
All KHP cars are issued with the 800 radio and a digital capable scanner installed. Some troopers install additional local radios (VHF / UHF etc) provided by local law enforcement agencies for interoperability. The state does not own or maintain the extra VHF / UHF radios- maybe that is what you are thinking of.
There does seem to be a level of frustration with encryption when it comes to interoperability. A trooper may be patrolling nearby a crime and progress, but never know about it due to local encryption. They just need to realize that is a choice that local Chief / Sheriff is making and that they apparently don't want the KHP to help them. There is some talk of coordinating encryption keys between agencies- but that is just talk at this point.
Coffey Co even encrypts their emergency management talkgroup.
It's ridiculous.
It's ridiculous.
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Actually, with Wolf Creek right smack dab in their front yard, I can understand that. I suppose it might even be a "requirement" from HS for some of the grant money they have received. Full-time encryption might be a little over the top, but they may have it programmed in on the talkgroup level rather than at the radio level....
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