KSICS Anchor Thread

[peterjmag]

The 2 links you are discussing for KHP and KDOT as far as I know are remnants of the old system that the state used to use before the current P25 KSICS system came online in 2006. They are both conventional and most likely analog with DCS tones and should be linked into the current KSICS system most likely the Dexter site. Let us know if you hear anything on them. Happy scanning.

 

[Cowley639]

I wouldn't think it's a part of the old system... The site was constructed, and the license was issued in November of 2012.

The license lists two "repeater pairs" plus two additional frequencies.
806.3125 - MO
808.5500 - MO
851.3125 - FB2C
851.3125 - MO
853.5500 - FB2C
853.5500 - MO

The Dexter Site was constructed and licensed in June of 2006 according to the FCC records.

My guess is this is a site to fill in the Southeast Cowley County "dead zone".

 

[dgruver911]

I wouldn't think it's a part of the old system... The site was constructed, and the license was issued in November of 2012.

The license lists two "repeater pairs" plus two additional frequencies.
806.3125 - MO
808.5500 - MO
851.3125 - FB2C
851.3125 - MO
853.5500 - FB2C
853.5500 - MO

Look at the frequencies again. What you are looking at are 2 conventional repeaters, period. The input and output frequencies, and a mobile license for the output so they can use talkaround. That's the way a conventional repeater is always licensed. They are conventional repeaters that were added so that the main KHP and KDOT talkgroups for that area could be heard in areas that the Dexter tower didn't reach. I assume that they have a couple of trunked radios at that site tied to the conventional repeaters. And yes, they were put in before several of the other P25 towers around them were put in. So they may or may not still be active.

 

[KX0Z]

TGRP ID 654 Really Neosho County EMS??

TGRP 4806???

TGRP 4431 Some kind of medical TGRP?

 

[KAA951]

Hey everyone,

I was doing some poking around and found (on the Cowley County page) "KSICS Link near Arkansas City".

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?ctid=901

Does this happen to be another KSICS Site? It doesn't show up on the KSICS page as a site, which is why I was curious. I live in Arkansas City, and sometimes have difficulty receiving from the Dexter site.

Any help on this would be greatly appreciated!

There are two “extender” sites for KSICS the state put in along the Oklahoma border due to complaints of no radio coverage by KHP and KDOT. That is one and the other is near Coffeyville. My understanding is that the sites hold two conventional repeaters- one slaves to the KHP talkgtoup for the ads and the other to KDOT. When Troopers work that area they have to leave KSICS and switch their radio to the conventional tower.

 

[Freqed]

Currently in Dodge City, listening on both the old anolog freqs and the KSICS and not picking up anything for ford county or DCPD. Anyone have any ideas. 996 P2.

 

[hjvan]

sites near johnson county

Just recently started monitoring KSICS again after a long break. I'm in Lenexa and noticing most of the traffic i'm receiving is coming from the "West Mineral" site. Surely this can't be the case? Anyone else with experience monitoring this site from Johnson county area?

Thanks

 

[KCoax]

What talk groups are you hearing? It might be a case of someone from that area is in town for court or a prisoner transfer and they have their radio set to that talk group, broadcasting that area's TG on the local tower. Perks of living in the big city, in Kansas.

 

[wbloss]

Just recently started monitoring KSICS again after a long break. I'm in Lenexa and noticing most of the traffic i'm receiving is coming from the "West Mineral" site. Surely this can't be the case? Anyone else with experience monitoring this site from Johnson county area?

Thanks

If you're in Lenexa it is unlikely you're hearing Weir/W Mineral. 852.2375c is the control channel for W Mineral and 12 OTHER sites in KSICS. Depending on what scanner u are using, sometimes it reports the first site it comes to with that control channel. You could be listening to the Corning or NEss City etc site but some wlil report Weir/W Mineral. If you can see the site NAC that will allow you to verify what site you are REALLY hearing.

On the other hand with tropo conditions it is possible, I'm about 20 miles from Weir/W Mineral and it recently was clobbered by the Dexter site (same cc but different site NAC)

W

 

[mancow]

Just recently started monitoring KSICS again after a long break. I'm in Lenexa and noticing most of the traffic i'm receiving is coming from the "West Mineral" site. Surely this can't be the case? Anyone else with experience monitoring this site from Johnson county area?

Thanks

What is the actual frequency it's indicating?

852.2375 yields nothing but static off the BCD536HP or SDR connected to an antenna at 100 ft at the FR/MI county lines and can see Burlington to KCMO and beyond.

 

[KCoax]

Also, some KSICS towers share freqs that are used on MARRS. If the scanner is cycling through all the towers in search mode, the scanner cannot differentiate between KSICS and MARRS if the NAC is in search mode.

 

[hjvan]

NAC says 180h 285h?

 

[hjvan]

and yes it's on search mode and cycles through sites....mainly stops on West Mineral

 

[wbloss]

those NACs are not KSICS NACs.
What is the "h" - NACs are 3 characters.
No control channel of MARRS is the same as W Mineral.
Weird

 

[mancow]

h is the designation for hexidecimal.

I think I figured it out. He is seeing 2B5 not 285. The frequency he is seeing a control channel on is likely 853.775 which is one of the voice channels in the West Mineral tower assignment. It also happens to be the control channel for the MARRS Johnson County site.

hjvan, when it stops on that is not the KSICS system it's the MARRS system, although it does carry some KSICS traffic such as KHP troop A. It is the system that serves your area (Johnson County).

Lock out that site or remove that frequency from that site (not needed anyway, not a KSICS control channel for West Mineral) and it will ignore it.

This is a prime example of the usefulness of the NAC filtering available with the SDS100.

 

[hjvan]

yep, that must be it. Appreciate the help all. Very strange. i'll avoid that site for the KSICS system. thanks

 

[KX0Z]

TGID 4431 any idea? Sounds like some kind of medical talk group.. Listening in Topeka..

 

[Jimbnks]

I'm traveling a lot on K-96 between Hutch and Wichita.

I seem to have a big dead spot, around Reno, Sedgwick co lines, I could be wrong, but I thought there was some active frequency off the Yoder tower.

Does anyone happen to know for sure?

 

[fp5930]

Kansas Radio Discussion Forum

Are you listening to Wichita/Sedgwick County or Reno County?

 

[dgruver911]

I'm traveling a lot on K-96 between Hutch and Wichita.

I seem to have a big dead spot, around Reno, Sedgwick co lines, I could be wrong, but I thought there was some active frequency off the Yoder tower.

Does anyone happen to know for sure?

There is no Yoder tower. The closest KSIS towers to that area are Partridge SW of Hutchinson, the Harvey County simulcast tower NE of Burrton, and the Sedgwick County tower north of Wichita. It's just likely that you truly are in a dead spot between those towers.