KSICS Anchor Thread

fire512

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I was just wondering about a updated one myself yesterday. I hadn't kept up with the scanner and radio stuff in a few years. Trying to get my scanner up to date. Seems Lyon Co SO switched to KSICS as i hear stuff on that new talkgroup but nothing on 450 for awhile now. But the audio sounds way different. Does the KSICS system sound different then the analog 450mhz? Sounds like the way the KHP sounds when they talk. I saw in the local news something about Emporia or LYCO was talking about leasing tower space NE of Emporia for 800mhz but the article didn't say for what. Nice how the local news leaves out everything useful for us radio people.
Lyon County went live about a month ago. I have no information on Talkgroups or anything yet though.
 

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Has anyone heard the State is no longer going approve or assign radio ID's to Phase 1 equipment after January 1? There are alot of users who can't afford new equipment and its too bad.

Also, I've heard rumor of a new KHP template coming out with all new talkgroups and implementation of AES on most if not all of their channels. Anyone else heard any of this?
 

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Nothing has been said about doing away with Phase 1 ID's. I've not heard any discussion about this in any of the state meetings I attend.
As for a new template, yes that has been done. Not without controversy, but I'll leave that alone. Each region EOC is now Tac -1, LE is now Tac -2, Emgt is now an AES encrypted only channel, and Fire, EMS and PWKS were shut off. There are a host of other changes including 3 additional talkgroups in the ICS Zones, and all Event 2 talkgroups have been renamed for the Weather office that supports each region, and Event 4 was renamed Event 2. That won't cause confusion, will it???
The reasoning they gave was that most of the channels weren't being used so they felt a change was needed. They are pushing everyone to change as soon as they can. It will take a while to get AES implemented across the state for Law Enforcement though as that is a $500 update or new radios and very few agencies use AES yet. I've not heard anything about further AES encryption.
 

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MISSING SITES?
Is there a site 1-43?
If there a site 2-44?
Both are skipped in the database.
 
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Nothing has been said about doing away with Phase 1 ID's. I've not heard any discussion about this in any of the state meetings I attend.
As for a new template, yes that has been done. Not without controversy, but I'll leave that alone. Each region EOC is now Tac -1, LE is now Tac -2, Emgt is now an AES encrypted only channel, and Fire, EMS and PWKS were shut off. There are a host of other changes including 3 additional talkgroups in the ICS Zones, and all Event 2 talkgroups have been renamed for the Weather office that supports each region, and Event 4 was renamed Event 2. That won't cause confusion, will it???
The reasoning they gave was that most of the channels weren't being used so they felt a change was needed. They are pushing everyone to change as soon as they can. It will take a while to get AES implemented across the state for Law Enforcement though as that is a $500 update or new radios and very few agencies use AES yet. I've not heard anything about further AES encryption.
are you saying they're pushing to do AES on all Law enforcement talkgroups or just the special AES statewide channel?
 

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are you saying they're pushing to do AES on all Law enforcement talkgroups or just the special AES statewide channel?
Well, they can't tell you what to do on your local talkgroups, but they are highly recommending it, and if you're having to pay the extra $$$ to update your radios, why not go to the better encryption? Many agencies are opting to do so.
 
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Does anyone know where 2538 is coming from? It's most likely a Sheriff channel from the traffic I"m hearing. Def law enforcement. it's one I have that's not listed on the database. Also have 2460, 4838, 4447, 4457. I'm in Emporia KS. Not sure what towers it's coming from but I have Lyon, Chase, and I think Wabaunsee and Waverly Towers coming in from my house on the base antenna.
 

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Well, they can't tell you what to do on your local talkgroups, but they are highly recommending it, and if you're having to pay the extra $$$ to update your radios, why not go to the better encryption? Many agencies are opting to do so.
Unless they bought APX1500s which can't be AES upgraded. :unsure: The Moto schoolyard pusher model strikes again. Get em hoooked on the cheap stuff then they have to come back.
 
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Any recordings or other details?
Sorry I didn't record anything. That's a good idea then i can play the stuff back and hear more in less time. but I would have to keep it on one channel and hope to hear something. I haven't heard the other ones mentioned lately when paying attention.
 

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I've confirmed some new TG's on KSICS up here...

Jewell County SO: 12FD - (8000)4861
Jewell County SO TAC: 12FE - (8000)4862
 

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I programmed KSICS in to my BCD996P2 for Linn county. I have LE, EMS, Fire, KBI, & Highway Patrol Troop H talkgroups but all I ever hear is Highway Patrol out of Chanute and a few Found Channels for JOCO Troop A and Miami County EMS. I know that Linn county still uses analog freqs. quite a bit for LE and other stuff but I started not hearing anything for fire and EMS so I bought a digital scanner finally thinking I'd hear them on the KSICS system but not hearing anything. I hear ambulances and fire trucks going by but don't hear any traffic digital or analog. I may hear LE as first responders to a medical situation or a fire but no EMS or fire personnel. Anyone know what's going on with that? Someone posted above, "Each region EOC is now Tac -1, LE is now Tac -2, Emgt is now an AES encrypted only channel, and Fire, EMS and PWKS were shut off.." What does that mean exactly?
 

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I can't speak to Linn County specifcally since I don't reside/listen, but looking at the database it appears only EMS is on KSICS, everyone else is still on analog VHF. As fas as your last question, up until late last year there were 5 regional Tac channels and an EOC in each sub-region (SE1, SE2, KC3, NE4, etc). The State renamed 3 of them and took 3 of those away because they thought they weren't being used enough. Those channels are for interop and mutual aid, they are not supposed to be used for day-to-day operations. So doubtful you'll find your local agencies there.
 
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