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slayer816

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I really think 13079 is going to be either Ochsner med complex in Monroe or Shreveport. Ochsner has been either buying up or merging with all kinds of hospitals and clinics in La.. I do contract work at a lot of med clinics and a few hospitals and had a customer show me his new toy (a harris portable of some kind) that the state required them to buy. He told me all clinics, nursing homes, hospitals, etc had to have access to LWIN at some time down the road. I noticed the other day when I was at University hospital (LSU) in Monroe, that all of the various building maint guys have what looks to be XTS5000's (portables if I said it wrong). They used to all carry UHF radios. So something has changed. I saw a radio tech putting up an 700/800 mhz beam on top the maint building a few months ago. Appears to be pointing toward the Monroe tower site.

Very interesting. I had suspected LSU Monroe but didn't get a chance to get out there and snoop. Ochsner now owns that hospital if I'm not mistaken as it is now signed and referred to as "Ochsner Monroe" by nearly every agency in NELA. One day when I'm in Monroe, I'll switch over to my LWIN repeater input search and catch them talking close. Then we'll know.

To throw another wrench in this story; 13078 was in use the other day by the same radios doing the same thing. That makes 3 sequential unverified TG's in use by the same group of people doing alot of different things. This HAS to be testing/implementing things (such as your first statement).

Question though: When you say "..all clinics, nursing homes, hospitals, etc had to have access to LWIN at some time down the road", do you mean just so all Ochsner centers would be connected without having to use LEARN/DOHH interop TG's?

By the way, I heard somewhere, don't remember where, that all schools eventually are to have access to LWIN. Presumably each parish would have a least one TG assigned to schools I would think.

This also makes sense. Just like most statewide systems, ours is a work in progress. We know a list of TG's has been allotted to each parish already (just this morning I saw a SO unit login a new sequential channel that no ones ever touched). A few variables make it difficult to pinpoint each group; monitoring the right site, getting SDR to log it, hearing it for verification, the actual agency using it, the actual individual using it correctly, etc etc. But hey, that's what makes it fun.
 

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My "contact" only said that every hospital, nursing home, surgery center, etc had to have access to LWIN. They have to have an LWIN programmed radio on site. He showed me the Harris radio they had (they bought several) and some of the TG's it had programed in to it. Obviously it had all(?) the LEARN/DHH TG's as well as (this is his understanding) S.O., Monroe PD, Monroe FD, W. Monroe PD and Fire as well as others that he really didn't know what they were. He didn't know exactly why or what they were supposed to do with it. Sounded to me like an order from above (as in GOV'T) with no training or procedures to follow as far as use. I was not surprised. I am assuming that Ochsner, being as large as it is and is turning in to a large med presence, would probably have it's own set of TG's as well as the normal DHH/LEARN etc. talkgroups. So yeah, I'm guessing that in the future, Ochsner facilities will be able to contact other facilities in the family. Ochsner has bought or merged with 6 or 7 in N.O., 4 or 5 on the north shore, 2 or 3 in BTR, 8,9, maybe more in Acadiana, LSU Shreveport, LSU Monroe plus I'm sure they are in some kind of negotiations in CENLA.
 

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All makes sense. I assume at some point they will get done with the upgrades/remodel (or whatever it is that they are doing) and use 13078/13079/13080 properly. Then it will be easier to identify. Or maybe not. Sometimes I hear local agencies that don't know what to do with their radios and even the capability that they have.

Thanks for all the information.
 

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Of course the day I actually try to close call / band search near the hospital, no one speaks. I did however pick up multiple Ochsner helicopters using Pafford and Acadian's air channels. I've never heard them up here before. I assume they get their own talkgroups for air med like the other companies.
 

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I can't imagine you can get much in those hills as it stands. With WM site being down, I couldn't pick up anything till I got back into civilization. Can you let us know when the site is transmitting? I'll go map it, I'm just too far away to constantly monitor.
I can’t wait for this site to come on line. I think I am going to have to sit on top of my chimney to get decent reception
 

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I can’t wait for this site to come on line. I think I am going to have to sit on top of my chimney to get decent reception

What radio(s) do you have? With where I'm located, it really depends on the radio and antenna combination. I go from barely a signal, to a solid -75/80 dB full signal.

Those of us that live east of US165 don't really have to worry about terrain because it's pretty much nonexistent. I always thought the coverage map was really odd, Why does southwest Ouachita Parish have so many dead spots? There's plenty of sites to cover. I found out that answer the first time I saw how many huge hills are there. I suspect this is the prime reason for the new site and it's location.
 

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What radio(s) do you have? With where I'm located, it really depends on the radio and antenna combination. I go from barely a signal, to a solid -75/80 dB full signal.

Those of us that live east of US165 don't really have to worry about terrain because it's pretty much nonexistent. I always thought the coverage map was really odd, Why does southwest Ouachita Parish have so many dead spots? There's plenty of sites to cover. I found out that answer the first time I saw how many huge hills are there. I suspect this is the prime reason for the new site and it's location.
I’ve got an sds 100.
I don’t understand why they have waited this long to do something.
I’ve never seen the West Monroe site up in the year I’ve had the radio.
 

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SDS is the way to go for sure around here. We don't have simulcast but it does wonders for us in rural areas. Try an aftermarket antenna. It makes a difference too. I picked up Monroe from the top of the hill where the new site will be.

West Monroe is not as strong in general. It's also on a tower that is extremely short compared to the KNOE tower used by Monroe. I think it was meant to supplement the Monroe site on the WM side and not much else. My SDS100/Remtronix 800 combo loses WM not far past the mill south & just outside of the Camp Rd i20 exit west. So it's actually the Monroe site that fills in the gap going to Calhoun.
 

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Agreed the SDS is a super scanner. But I am curious, how is the reception for the West Carrol Parish and the parishes surround it ? Also Slayer 16 being trying to chat with ya.

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I receive both Quachita and West Carrol Parishes with no problem. Also Morehouse Parish. This has been an improved reception since new tower work. I get them on BCD536HP and TRX2 scanners.
 

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I receive both Quachita and West Carrol Parishes with no problem. Also Morehouse Parish. This has been an improved reception since new tower work. I get them on BCD536HP and TRX2 scanners.

What kind of antenna setup do you have? I'm jealous of your reception range.
 

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Yagi directional. I have 2 scanners and a television connected to it. I pick up Tensas, Franklin, Grant, Quachita, Richland, Madison. East Carrol, West Carrol, and Morehouse all the time and sometimes several around Baton Rouge area. I have it approx. 35ft. high.
 

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Does anyone know who uses 17403. Currently being used in Lake Charles for water rescues. Thought maybe it was the Cajun Navy using this one. Sort of sounds like them
 

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We have a stickied TG identification thread, which is in reality a LWIN discussion thread. More users are watching this I suspect.


I see that talkgroups starting with 174 have not been identified yet. Did you get any UID info? That's really helpful if you see someone change to that channel that normally uses another one.
 

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Does anyone know who uses 17403. Currently being used in Lake Charles for water rescues. Thought maybe it was the Cajun Navy using this one. Sort of sounds like them
Really active this morning 9:30-10. Didn't hear anything to identify who it was but it was a search leadership and planning discussion. I'm hearing it off St Tammany Simulcast.
 

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Just heard them again. Mentioned about loading up a truckload in Mandeville and heading to Lake Charles with it. The Unit ID's were 223,028 223,029 and 223,0049

This has been very active in the Lake Charles area since the flooding on Monday
 
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From up here:
the last time I logged a 223### unit was last summer on one of the Local/State Agency Interop tg's. The closest unit id's to it were logged a week ago used on WBR talkgroups. Definitely south LA units using a south LA talkgroup.

Keep monitoring.
 

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"Mentioned about loading up a truckload in Mandeville and heading to Lake Charles with it. The Unit ID's were 223,028 223,029 and 223,0049
This has been very active in the Lake Charles area since the flooding on Monday"

As of noon-30 they're still discussing sending a truck to LC. Maybe two trucks with a dozen or so pallets of supplies.

God Bless'em whoever they are.


"2021/05/19 12:46:30 Group call; TG=17403 RID=223040 Ch=774.74375 3s
2021/05/19 12:46:34 Group call; TG=17403 RID=223066 Ch=771.04375 3s"
(example from dsdplus fastlane event file)

"124707_007_P25_BEE00.1BD-1.5_GC_17403_223066"
(name of a recorded file)
 

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A mod graciously merged general LWIN discussion and unidentified talkgroup discussion together in this thread.
 
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