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12:30PM local some tuning tones on 11175 then strong signal blast of what sounded like RTTY type signal tones..
Maybe some Ham op playing around ..
 

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Does anyone know if 6761 kHz is still used for A-A refueling? Additionally, are there any other mil HF networks still in use for clear voice or ALE besides COTHEN and HFGCS?
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Here are some other US mil voice freqs. Got these from Larry Van Horn years ago

US Navy TACAMO (all USB)

6691 Charlie Alpha
11187 Charlie Bravo
17982 Charlie Charlie
3038 Charlie Delta
9031 Charlie Echo
4703 Charlie Foxtrot
8974 Charlie Golf
11264.5 Charlie Hotel
18015 Charlie India

There are other possible tacamo freqs (below) but I do not have desigs
3098.0 3152.0 5726.0 6748.0 13227.0 13257.0 15022.0 15061.0 15079.0

FACSFAC VACAPES via HF 4373.4 KHZ (4372)

HMX-1 (Nighthawk) Pri 9.020 USB

8971 USB used to hopping with HF voice trfc. Don't know if it still is.



US Navy P-3/P-8 MARPAT freqs

FIDDLE (TOC NAS Jacksonville FL):

4739.0

8971.0

HABITAT (TOC NAS Whidbey Island WA)

5699.0

5700.4

6919.5

7895.0

8032.0

8977.0

8978.4

9005.4

9011.4

11187.0

11208.0

11209.5

16087.0

ROCK BOTTOM (TOC NAS Sigonella Italy)

3738.0

8706.6

MINIATURE (TOC MCB Kaneohe HI)

6693.0

13244.1

WESTERN SKY (TOC NAS North Island CA)

8971.0

If I run across others I'll post them

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Hr

Here are some other US mil voice freqs. Got these from Larry Van Horn years ago

US Navy TACAMO (all USB)

6691 Charlie Alpha
11187 Charlie Bravo
17982 Charlie Charlie
3038 Charlie Delta
9031 Charlie Echo
4703 Charlie Foxtrot
8974 Charlie Golf
11264.5 Charlie Hotel
18015 Charlie India

There are other possible tacamo freqs (below) but I do not have desigs
3098.0 3152.0 5726.0 6748.0 13227.0 13257.0 15022.0 15061.0 15079.0

FACSFAC VACAPES via HF 4373.4 KHZ (4372)

HMX-1 (Nighthawk) Pri 9.020 USB

8971 USB used to hopping with HF voice trfc. Don't know if it still is.



US Navy P-3/P-8 MARPAT freqs

FIDDLE (TOC NAS Jacksonville FL):

4739.0

8971.0

HABITAT (TOC NAS Whidbey Island WA)

5699.0

5700.4

6919.5

7895.0

8032.0

8977.0

8978.4

9005.4

9011.4

11187.0

11208.0

11209.5

16087.0

ROCK BOTTOM (TOC NAS Sigonella Italy)

3738.0

8706.6

MINIATURE (TOC MCB Kaneohe HI)

6693.0

13244.1

WESTERN SKY (TOC NAS North Island CA)

8971.0

If I run across others I'll post them

Hope this helps
Thank you. I have a pretty limited shack and can't reliably copy west coast ground stations, but I've programmed in TACAMO CA-CI, FACSFAC, and TOC Jacksonville. After months of hearing nothing on Norfolk SESEF frequencies and the USCG cutter net, I figured I'd try something else.
 

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2056 EST - Andrews doing a test count on 11175
2100 EST - Shalamar standing by for traffic call 2 times, no reply. Sounds like the same guy but much stronger, and some sort of noise with the transmission. Data ? 11175 Audio

2130 EST - Shalamar standing by for traffic, no reply. I guess they do a call ever 30 minutes on the hour and at half past.
Interesting the aircraft operator unkeys for the final time and the sound goes away as well
 

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12:30PM local some tuning tones on 11175 then strong signal blast of what sounded like RTTY type signal tones..
Maybe some Ham op playing around ..
or intentional interference during the exercise to add more realism. All they really need to do is pay one of those heater running CBers to get on the frequency with reverb and echo effects to make it more challenging.
 

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Thank you. I have a pretty limited shack and can't reliably copy west coast ground stations, but I've programmed in TACAMO CA-CI, FACSFAC, and TOC Jacksonville. After months of hearing nothing on Norfolk SESEF frequencies and the USCG cutter net, I figured I'd try something else.
HR

I believe the USCG 5693 & 8983 went silent years ago. ALE & SATCOM probably took over. Alot of folks in the HF world are posting activity on the Norfolk & Mayport SESEF HF freqs. Lots of interesting (to me) ship tactical (nickname) calls being posted. Larry Van Horn years ago posted alot of info on SESEF ops.
 

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I believe the USCG 5693 & 8983 went silent years ago. ALE & SATCOM probably took over. Alot of folks in the HF world are posting activity on the Norfolk & Mayport SESEF HF freqs. Lots of interesting (to me) ship tactical (nickname) calls being posted. Larry Van Horn years ago posted alot of info on SESEF ops.
I might try Mayport since FL is almost always booming here. My antenna isn't configured for NVIS so just offshore is in the skip zone for me.
 

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1521L - MUSEL17 flight out of KECG Elizabeth City passed over nice and low. Tail numbers 96655 and 96630.
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1526L - SHALAMAR with message WRL7DB on HFGCS.
1530L - SHALAMAR with message WR3AGU. Message repeated at 1534L and then disregarded. Repeated again 1537L with WRL7DB.
 
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or intentional interference during the exercise to add more realism. All they really need to do is pay one of those heater running CBers to get on the frequency with reverb and echo effects to make it more challenging.
I'm sure now was some Ham tuning up his old boat anchor type radio for antenna SWF,Power etc for CW use and after 3 tunes he
fired off a RTTY message... Radio Teletype (RTTY) - Signal Identification Wiki
A big no no on 11175.
 
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1630 local OTIS-81 calling mainsail on 11175 no reply heard.... Should be KC-130J #170038 somewhere.
SHALAMAR back up again with message.

1735z/1235 local OTIS-81 headed offshore maybe enroute Lajes.
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1700 local Puerto Rico with mainsail test count on 11175
 
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2105 local OTIS-81 showing on ground at Lajes..

RCH-885 C-17 #00-0182 calling into 167AW WV CP on 297.900 alpha 3 inbound from Bangor.
Calls CP Ops "Pikeside"

Maybe some Airbus Beluga oversized cargo carriers in US cargo market soon..
Boeing has the Dreamlifter but used mostly for Boeing parts from Italy and Japan.

 
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Falcon Heavy trying Space Force X-37B launch tonight with only a 10 minute launch window at 8:07PM local.
Supposed to hug the Northeast US Coast but clouds here are not helping...

 
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Decent view from Benson, NC
Couple airline pilots yakking on 121.500 up this way seeing the launch...
Imagine they can see it easily trailing above the clouds. I wonder if it shows on their radar..LOL

Nice pics Zack...You should send copies to your local media down there.
Weather wise we haven't seen Stars up here for over a week or so :(
 
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Its been a number of years, but the Utility system has an A & B side. I do know in almost every instance of a Utility system, Circuit A or Circuit B light inflight that I've seen or known about, they almost always take the barrier, IE, use the tail hook to catch the arresting cable for landing attempts with those conditions.

Robert
I remember something about possibly having the nosewheel try and do a hard turn with a B systems fail, and that's why an arrestment was to be done, (if I remember the rumors right). (A/B models).

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KWWD has more names for it than anything.

Wildwood Airport
Cape May County Airport
Cape May Airport

even though it is located in Erma NJ (Lower Township) but its address is Rio Grande NJ (Middle Township) !!
This was really fascinating to me, so I did a little bit of looking up (google maps) and it shows the outline of Erma NJ ending before the airport.

I thought there were more airports than that in the area, that's why I started looking.

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This was really fascinating to me, so I did a little bit of looking up (google maps) and it shows the outline of Erma NJ ending before the airport.

I thought there were more airports than that in the area, that's why I started looking.

Thanks
Joel
Yes technically but Erma is in Lower Township (that encompasses the airport and Erma). Middle Township which includes Rio Grande ends before the airport. So someone may have closed their eyes and pointed at the map and when they open their eyes - their finger was pointing to Rio Grande. The Unicom calls are interesting too - pilots call it by the various names !!
 

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Yes technically but Erma is in Lower Township (that encompasses the airport and Erma). Middle Township which includes Rio Grande ends before the airport. So someone may have closed their eyes and pointed at the map and when they open their eyes - their finger was pointing to Rio Grande. The Unicom calls are interesting too - pilots call it by the various names !!
The map situation at least on Google is terrible with Middle township, just following the outlines of the township on the map is annoying, it's just all over the place, including through a building.

Thanks
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KWWD has more names for it than anything.

Wildwood Airport
Cape May County Airport
Cape May Airport

even though it is located in Erma NJ (Lower Township) but its address is Rio Grande NJ (Middle Township) !!
Even though the airport is physically located in Lower Township, it is covered by the Rio Grande post office hence why the mailing address is Rio Grande.

Check Google maps for 08242 and you’ll see the zip code map which covers the airport.
 
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