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I don't quite understand this article. Have seen Blue Angels over the years park and perform at all kinds of airports
without emergency arresting gear.. Is this something new with their Super Hornets?
Travis flyers support upcoming air show

Another Navy question.. Assumed they remove the Los Angeles class Sub tower diving planes before they pop up thru the ice?
Don't see any fins here... Scanning thru some sub pics and some LA Class subs have them and others don't.

Osprey news.. Marines say may be end of Summer before all V-22's are fully operational.

Joyce said it would take about 30 days for Marine Corps squadrons to return to basic proficiency after a battery of maintenance and flight refreshers. Given the length of the grounding, it could be late summer before the entire force can return to an operational status, according to the service.
 
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So where are pics :)

Ask and ye shall receive. ;) A murky day, poured the whole way up my photo location, but fortunately the rain stopped just before takeoff. I had a pretty good sense of when it would be thanks to all your messages upstream. Then I could see the plane taxi so I knew it would be soon, I just hoped they were using the same flight path everyone else was this morning. Happily, they were. Very low cloud cover and fog, the visible portion of the pass was only 30 seconds or so before it disappeared at about 2000 feet. Enjoy!

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I don't quite understand this article. Have seen Blue Angels over the years park and perform at all kinds of airports
without emergency arresting gear.. Is this something new with their Super Hornets?
Travis flyers support upcoming air show

Another Navy question.. Assumed they remove the Los Angeles class Sub tower diving planes before they pop up thru the ice?
Don't see any fins here... Scanning thru some sub pics and some LA Class subs have them and others don't.

Osprey news.. Marines say may be end of Summer before all V-22's are fully operational.

Joyce said it would take about 30 days for Marine Corps squadrons to return to basic proficiency after a battery of maintenance and flight refreshers. Given the length of the grounding, it could be late summer before the entire force can return to an operational status, according to the service.

According to the 2024 Support Manual, an arresting gear rig is not required for show site if there is one within 60 NM. [p. 23 (M)]
 

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According to the 2024 Support Manual, an arresting gear rig is not required for show site if there is one within 60 NM. [p. 23 (M)]
Thanks. Lots of requirements going thru their demand list.. Gymnasium, Gallons of bottled water, power karts of many types
and Thirty 55 gallon drums of smoke oil... LOL
Yes outside of Travis not too far from Sacramento not many mil bases out there besides Beale AFB.
 

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Thanks. Lots of requirements going thru their demand list.. Gymnasium, Gallons of bottled water, power karts of many types
and Thirty 55 gallon drums of smoke oil... LOL
Yes outside of Travis not too far from Sacramento not many mil bases out there besides Beale AFB.

I worked on the Chamber of Commerce's Airshow Steering Committee for the 1997 Airshow that was at Martin's -- the one that the F117 crash took place. I was there as part of my VFD as an officer and representative. The day of the show I was the OIC on the aerial ladder truck and first FD person to make contact with the pilot. The people you see coming to him after he landed -- not to far away from the raging fire -- took him into their kitchen.

Just this airshow was quite a spectacle to arrange and there was assistance from a professional. The F117 fly over was a bonus that came at the last minute as they were doing this as part of a tour. This particular AC came from a New York over and was coming by us then continuing on south. A lot of effort goes into these things. We worked on it from December 1996 to the day of the show.

It was quite an interesting and entertaining day. Just a couple hours later we ended up sending a bunch of our fire fighters to the hospital due to exposure.


 

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This might be unrelated, but what are these two structures? These are currently located at the Hagerstown Airport
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Tents....

Thanks
Joel

(Not being a wise guy.... They're next to (well, at least one is, next to) a power pedestal), it would be helpful if we knew what the exact location is near the runway and what the power pedestal is for.

If they're near the approach lighting, then they could be sheltering maintenance people or covering something that's being worked on.

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Was there conversation on 361.3 or did he call and get no answer? If the latter, he might've misdialed the freq.

Years ago, I went down to Seymour Johnson to see the Snowbirds, and a civilian pilot entered the pattern apparently thinking he was at an airport about 10 miles away. Could hear him calling the legs on one scanner (using the other airport's CTAF), while hearing the tower crew shouting at him in vain on Seymour's victor freqs. Interestingly, the guy actually landed at the base apparently not noticing a tarmac full of military displays and thousands of people.

73/Allen (N4JRI)
He got no reply.. so wrong frequency. What other uses are there for 361.300?

The only info I could come up with besides Giant Killer W-72 freq.:

FrequencyDescriptionCategoryAgency/CountyState
361.300Sunseeker/Nomad/Broadarrow BaseMilitary Operations
Jacksonville NAS (NIP)
Jacksonville NAS (NIP)
Duval
FL
361.300Groom Lake MOANellis Air Force Base
United States Air Force
Nevada FederalNV
 
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Ask and ye shall receive. ;) A murky day, poured the whole way up my photo location, but fortunately the rain stopped just before takeoff. I had a pretty good sense of when it would be thanks to all your messages upstream. Then I could see the plane taxi so I knew it would be soon, I just hoped they were using the same flight path everyone else was this morning. Happily, they were. Very low cloud cover and fog, the visible portion of the pass was only 30 seconds or so before it disappeared at about 2000 feet. Enjoy!

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That location looks closer to the airport than National Park NJ. Just wondering where you were approximately ?
 

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My first thought was that he was on the wrong frequency as it didn't sound as if he got a reply.

So then what is the relationship between CONVOY-4561 and 361.300? CONVOY is a US Navy callsign. It's unfortunate that I missed his serial number.

The only info I could come up with besides Giant Killer W-72 frequency was:


FrequencyDescriptionCategoryAgency/CountyState
361.300Sunseeker/Nomad/Broadarrow BaseMilitary Operations
Jacksonville NAS (NIP)
Jacksonville NAS (NIP)
Duval
FL
361.300Groom Lake MOANellis Air Force Base
United States Air Force
Nevada FederalNV
I think it was probably a simple case of having the wrong frequency dialed in on the comm panel.

If you listen to 121.500 for about two hours, you will hear pilots making cabin annoucements and reply to ATC instructions on 121.50 instead of the ATC frequency. Simple case of not paying attention to the details.

And based on the fact that the aircraft has visited both of the locations with 361.3 within that past week...perhaps that is the source of the frequency choice. They never were close to Giantkiller airspace to even need to contact them or use that frequency for comms with GK

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