NJICS Municipal Migration Discussion - Statewide

[APX8000]

As far as the others, their are always hold outs. The site up on Mountain Ave gets out great...if it works, don’t change it. BUT, you have a site up on Watchung for the County on the other side of 78 not to mention it being part of a larger simulcast cell. There is also the question of buying new subscribers, if their are subscriber fees per radio, can you keep your dispatch or give it up to County, etc.


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[mdsxfire]

I was monitoring the scotch plains PD TG for about 2 weeks and heard a lot of traffic during that time, def normal patrol ops traffic. Not sure if they are patching it through to the old UHF


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[RadioDitch]

I was monitoring the scotch plains PD TG for about 2 weeks and heard a lot of traffic during that time, def normal patrol ops traffic. Not sure if they are patching it through to the old UHF


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Two way patch.

Those FG's came from an anonymous inside source, thats all I'm at liberty to reveal...

Your international man of mystery is a good and reliable gentleman.

As far as the others, their are always hold outs. The site up on Mountain Ave gets out great...if it works, don’t change it. BUT, you have a site up on Watchung for the County on the other side of 78 not to mention it being part of a larger simulcast cell. There is also the question of buying new subscribers, if their are subscriber fees per radio, can you keep your dispatch or give it up to County, etc.

There's not going to be many hold-outs left, except perhaps Mountain Valley. But the question is what support and services from the county are New Providence and Summit willing to loose if they don't join? It's been repeatedly told to me, "nobody has a choice anymore".

 

[slapshot0017]

Scotch Plains PD still simulcast on UHF? Last I checked they weren't. Also you're forgetting a handful of departments that still haven't moved over that aren't dispatched by the county and probably won't for a while. Look at Somerset, Morris Counties. Plenty of agencies keeping to themselves.

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[RadioDitch]

Scotch Plains PD still simulcast on UHF? Last I checked they weren't. Also you're forgetting a handful of departments that still haven't moved over that aren't dispatched by the county and probably won't for a while. Look at Somerset, Morris Counties. Plenty of agencies keeping to themselves.

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PD simulcast still exists but is input activated at this point.

 

[craneoperator99]

Any update on Clifton?

 

[665_NJ]

Clifton to NJICS - Not Now

Any update on Clifton?

I have my sources through OEM and Clifton Fire did some testing over the last 6 months and despite there are three locations that should cover the city (West Orange, Garret Mountain,Ramapo) They were not convinced or satisfied with coverage and the way the system worked at least for fire department and EMS dispatch and operations. Especially on scene, foreground and interior operations (those would be on simplex). Right now the executive chief staff and some of their line officers don't see NJICS currently as a good fit for them. They will for now stay on their VHF 2 repeater channels and VHF 3 fire ground/training channels.

As for Police there is slightly more favored to do a switch due to coverage issues on their 2 VHF repeater channels which include voter receivers through out the city. Dead or poor spots remain. Coincidently, the dead spots effecting VHF police reception also were effecting FD units using the 700 MHz NJICS.

So in general the "Jury is still out or on recess" wait and see?.

I do not see a switch over to NJICS in the short term.
However since everything is now political and depends who gets the credit and control.
"Just like that, they can change their mind!"

 

[NJEMT504]

Copy. I reached out to one of mine right before they were posted up but didn’t hear back as fast.

Do we know how these are going to be assigned ? Asking based upon previous RID affiliations posted, for example Scotch Plains on FG2, Springfield on FG3...


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From what I can tell, all the departments that are dispatched by county get the initial dispatch tones on UC Fire Disp talkgroup 4443 similar to how the EMS agencies and medics operate on UC EMS Disp. At the end of the transmission the dispatcher will assign the fireground channel for that particular incident.

 

[slapshot0017]

Winfield Fire testing today.

 

[RadioDitch]

Winfield Fire testing today.

RID 2021066, 2021069. There was also a test county from Cranford on County Fire, RID 2003004, which if the plan holds together would be a console.

 

[slapshot0017]

RID 2021066, 2021069. There was also a test county from Cranford on County Fire, RID 2003004, which if the plan holds together would be a console.

Why because they dispatch them at certain times?

 

[RadioDitch]

Why because they dispatch them at certain times?

No, because there is a plan and pattern to RID assignments.

 

[slapshot0017]

No, because there is a plan and pattern to RID assignments.

Wheres the plan?

 

[RadioDitch]

Wheres the plan?

https://www.google.com

 

[slingshot202]

Winfield Fire testing today.

Wow cant wait to hear Winfield.

Thanks,
C.J
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[RadioDitch]

Wow cant wait to hear Winfield.

Not much to hear from them period. Winfield is a 0.18sqmi artifact of the 1941 Lanham Act with a low call volume and manpower issues. Linden ends up taking most of their fire calls, and Cranford most of their medical runs. Only real radio traffic they produce is their one on-duty road patrolman answering domestic disturbances.

 

[slingshot202]

Not much to hear from them period. Winfield is a 0.18sqmi artifact of the 1941 Lanham Act with a low call volume and manpower issues. Linden ends up taking most of their fire calls, and Cranford most of their medical runs. Only real radio traffic they produce is their one on-duty road patrolman answering domestic disturbances.

It was meant as sarcasm which obviously remains undetectable in written form. [emoji16]

Thanks,
C.J
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[richee2000]

Winfield PD will surely find the need to go Encrypted!

 

[magic_lantern]

"Winfield PD will surely find the need to go Encrypted!"

once the njics is complete entire system will be encrypted so nobody should feel left out. only hope for some delay would be new governor and budget woes. why should a 30 yard dumpster full of $100 dollar bills be spent on something that the current 800 system does perfectly well. The cost alone to outsource the maintenance of a system like the NJICS would probably be close to some states budgets with monthly required "upgrades" and "patches"and all that BS.

I wonder what the upgrade cost for a low band base station transceiver was and how many patches were required to keep it running. could you imagine a statewide low band radio system with the infrastructure that is mandatory for one of these super systems.

When will the taxpayers finally revolt, perhaps a payroll deduction every payday.

 

[richee2000]

"Winfield PD will surely find the need to go Encrypted!"

once the njics is complete entire system will be encrypted so nobody should feel left out. only hope for some delay would be new governor and budget woes. why should a 30 yard dumpster full of $100 dollar bills be spent on something that the current 800 system does perfectly well. The cost alone to outsource the maintenance of a system like the NJICS would probably be close to some states budgets with monthly required "upgrades" and "patches"and all that BS.

I wonder what the upgrade cost for a low band base station transceiver was and how many patches were required to keep it running. could you imagine a statewide low band radio system with the infrastructure that is mandatory for one of these super systems.

When will the taxpayers finally revolt, perhaps a payroll deduction every payday.

Do you know for sure that the entire NJICS system will be encrypted?

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