Official Bucks County 700Mhz Phase II Radio System Thread
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First, let me extend an olive branch,lol. When we left here last night we were surrounded by Motorola techs still tweaking the system. We were told that we're still only simulcasting off of 10 towers. The county was waiting for the remaining 14 FCC licenses for those remaining towers. Well, those licenses came in last night. Yes, I was referring to paging/dispatch, not the trunked system. So, with that being said all 24 towers could be simulcasting right now.
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... location, location, location... because of the LSM situation and no scanner being able to handle it in every location throughout the system there will be mixed results no matter what... just to confirm my APX 7000 works perfectly on the new system throughout eastern and northern Mercer County and NE Philly with a non affiliated scan... if you need dependable performance in a mobile application to do your job as I do it's the only way to go but there are some measures to take to help improve your lot and to those who are having no issues (like Bensalem near the tower) with the stock antenna consider yourselves very lucky... have a good day all... Bob...
I think our definitions of simulcast are different here. Your original post from this morning stating they are only simulcasting off of 10 towers could really steer people in the wrong direction.
There are two different Simulcast systems that play a role in the upgrade. One is the 24 Site 7/800 MHz TDMA Trunked Simulcast System. All sites are up and running.
The other simulcast system is the 22 Site VHF Simplex Voted Simulcast Paging System. 10 are online with the others coming online shortly (I would assume).
How were the Motorola Guys up there to deal with?
There are two different Simulcast systems that play a role in the upgrade. One is the 24 Site 7/800 MHz TDMA Trunked Simulcast System. All sites are up and running.
The other simulcast system is the 22 Site VHF Simplex Voted Simulcast Paging System. 10 are online with the others coming online shortly (I would assume).
How were the Motorola Guys up there to deal with?
The Motorola guy's were great... very helpful. They worked long and hard.
I see a few of you have radios that don't seem to be officially on the system. How are those programmed? Do you need any special info just to monitor? Or is it just a matter of ponying up the dough?
Also, there are other manufacturers that offer Phase 2 radios. Has anyone that just wants to monitor tried anything else besides Motorola?
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The radios are programmed almost the same way a normal subscriber radio is programmed (in relation to the trunked system perimeters themselves). There are a lot of small things that are done in the software that is different, however, and those steps are what makes it not affiliate or transmit. There is a thread that describes those steps in detail on the P25.ca forums. There are step by step instructions, and as long as you follow them to the letter you will NEVER transmit or affiliate with a trunked system. I use their instructions and if I were to program someone else's radio, would do the exact same thing.
Bucks Fire Rebroadcast on 153.905
Does anybody know if Fire Central will be rebroadcast from Doylestown on 153.905 (old Fire North rebroadcast freq.)? I heard radio techs doing testing on Sunday night (sounded good), but this freq. has been silent since. Thanks.
Does anybody know if Fire Central will be rebroadcast from Doylestown on 153.905 (old Fire North rebroadcast freq.)? I heard radio techs doing testing on Sunday night (sounded good), but this freq. has been silent since. Thanks.
It's working now.
Sibley,
I have almost the same exact experience as you in regards to hearing it perfectly at Home in Macungie, and just 4 miles NW of my home is where I work and can receive nothing of this system. I am using the same antenna's and radios pointed at the same directions. Must be a very sharp cutoff in coverage area indeed.
Mike
I have almost the same exact experience as you in regards to hearing it perfectly at Home in Macungie, and just 4 miles NW of my home is where I work and can receive nothing of this system. I am using the same antenna's and radios pointed at the same directions. Must be a very sharp cutoff in coverage area indeed.
Mike
Up and running...
SmokeEater1090
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Anyone know the frequencies to the new fire ground channels i know each band has their own now. and thank god that annoying beep is gone when keying up with the new system on fire ground channels.
Why did that occur with the old one? it never did that before til recently.
Why did that occur with the old one? it never did that before til recently.
Click on Reference Database on the RadioReference.com homepage, click on Pennsylvania on the map, click on Bucks County on the next map you see and the first table you see has the new fireground channels (they are the 700 MHz frequencies.)
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Those are the response channels, Iam looking for the fire ground talk channels.
What is a 'response channel'? They are described as 'Direct'. Thanks.
Septa3371CSX1
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Response channels are on the trunked system. There are also fireground channels on there and the "direct" simplex channels. The simplex channels are only allowed 2 watts of power so don't expect to hear too much usage on them.
Thanks. So in answer to SmokeEaters' question, am I correct in that the four 700 MHz Direct simplex channels are the new local (fireground) channels? That is how I understtod his question - local simplex channel vs. trunk system.
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There are 3 sets of channels The first set is the "on-network" response channels (East Band, South Band, etc). The second set are "on-network" fireground channels (East Fireground, South Fireground, etc). The third set are "off-network" simplex direct 2 watt conventional channels (East Direct, South Direct, etc) The first two sets of channels can be heard on the trunked system on your scanner from a distance. The third set, the Direct channels are limited to likely a few hundred feet in range, so you likely won't hear a peep on those unless you're on the fireground.
So if you're in the East region you have these 3 options:
East Band (digital talkgroup)
East Fireground (digital talkgroup)
East Direct (simplex analog frequency)
Hope that clears things up.
So if you're in the East region you have these 3 options:
East Band (digital talkgroup)
East Fireground (digital talkgroup)
East Direct (simplex analog frequency)
Hope that clears things up.
Depmodeche
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I updated my 436 through Sentinel but I still don't hear anything. Must I also change some settings in the scanner?
After the changeover I stopped hearing anything at all in Bucks.
Thanks
I updated my 436 through Sentinel but I still don't hear anything. Must I also change some settings in the scanner?
After the changeover I stopped hearing anything at all in Bucks.
Thanks
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