PA Statewide P25 Phase 2 System

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109 sounds like it might be a Game Commission unit. NW PA is District 1 for PGC. I saw a PowerPoint presentation from the game commission the other day that confirms PGC is active on the new system in district 1

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HM1529 said:
What shows up on the site information tab?
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Please bear with me since I am new to Pro96Com. I did not take a screen shot of that tab. This is from the saved logs;

FileVersion:8
-TowerInfo
#This section is here for information only. With the exception
#of the Call Sign(s), This data is not Read back into the program at all.
System ID : 942
System Name :
WACN : BEE00
Tower Number (Decimal): 1-11
Tower Number (Hex) : T010B
Tower Description :
Control Capabilities : Data,Voice,Registration
Flavor : Phase 2
Call Sign(s) :
Timestamp : Fri Sep 29 18:11:44 2017

-Tables
#Format: Table ID,Base Freq,Spacing,Input Offset,Assumed/Confirmed,BandWidth,Slots
00,851.00625,0.00625,-45.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
01,762.00625,0.00625,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
02,851.01250,0.01250,-45.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
03,762.00625,0.01250,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
04,150.00000,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
05,161.70000,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
06,450.00000,0.00625,5.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
07,150.00000,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
08,150.00250,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
09,155.00000,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
10,155.00250,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
11,161.70000,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
12,161.70250,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
13,166.80000,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
14,166.80250,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
15,450.00000,0.00625,5.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2

-Frequencies
#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency(/Slot),Input Channel,Input Frequency(/Slot),Input Explicit(1/0),Hit Count
"04-0566","ci",151.41500,"04-2184",155.46000,1,1
"04-3747","ad",159.36750,"04-2076",155.19000,1,0
"09-3494","v",159.36750/0,"09-0464",155.58000/0,1,1
"09-3495","v",159.36750/1,"09-0465",155.58000/1,1,2

Note that these frequencies are not on the list mentioned earlier but are licensed as WQWA746. I entered both sets of frequencies in preparation for the testing scheduled next month.
 
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druhe said:
As I was poking around the FCC site I stumbled into WQLM930, and according to the listed information this site is local to me. Any idea if this will be part of the new StarNet system ? I haven't seen any of this information posted anywhere else, I even checked DCNR and PSP nothing there.

ULS License - Public Safety Pool, Conventional License - WQLM930 - Commonwealth of Pennsylvania
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Dan,

From perusing the various Commonwealth FCC licenses, I have discovered that Pennsylvania uses specific FRNs for specific radio services, as follows:

DCNR (conventional): 0003174794
PSP (conventional): 0003175122
PA-STARNET (OpenSky and new P25): 0003178472
PTC (conventional): 0003233129
Penndot (conventional): 0003233400
PGC (conventional): 0003233582
DMVA (conventional): 0003235546
OAG (conventional): 0003259686
DPW (conventional): 0004140521
DOC (conventional): 0004426763
Penndot (ITS): 0005377346
PFBC (conventional): 0005377460
PEMA (conventional): 0006909964

The license you mentioned, WQLM930, is authorized under FRN 0003178472, therefore it is part of PA-STARNet. The emission desginators for the license channels (11K3F9W) would support this conclusion as well.
 
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EMT1301 said:
Dan,

From perusing the various Commonwealth FCC licenses, I have discovered that Pennsylvania uses specific FRNs for specific radio services, as follows:

DCNR (conventional): 0003174794
PSP (conventional): 0003175122
PA-STARNET (OpenSky and new P25): 0003178472
PTC (conventional): 0003233129
Penndot (conventional): 0003233400
PGC (conventional): 0003233582
DMVA (conventional): 0003235546
OAG (conventional): 0003259686
DPW (conventional): 0004140521
DOC (conventional): 0004426763
Penndot (ITS): 0005377346
PFBC (conventional): 0005377460
PEMA (conventional): 0006909964

The license you mentioned, WQLM930, is authorized under FRN 0003178472, therefore it is part of PA-STARNet. The emission desginators for the license channels (11K3F9W) would support this conclusion as well.
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This was all the FRN's I compiled a few years ago:

0003174794 Commonwealth of PA DCNR legacy VHF assignments
0004428322 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF DGS Harrisburg
0003233384 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF DGS Locations (Harrisburg, Philly, Scranton)
0021541305 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF DHS (DPW) Allentown State Hospital
0006630552 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF DHS (DPW) Clarks Summit State Hospital
0004428306 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF DHS (DPW) Loysville and Warren
0015114168 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF DHS (DPW) multiple BJJS facilities
0004140521 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF DHS (DPW) multiple hospitals
0008956740 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF DHS (DPW) New Castle
0015929474 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF DHS (DPW) Norristown State Hospital
0005792635 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF DHS (DPW) Torrance State Hospital
0021817887 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF DHS (DPW) Torrance State Hospital and Mayview State Hospital
0003233376 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF DHS (DPW) White Haven Center
0020891230 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF DHS (DPW) YDC Loysville
0006871156 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF DLI Hiram G Andrews Center
0003235546 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF; COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA, DMVA ; PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH DMVA
0004426763 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF DOC
0003233442 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF Farm Show Complex
0003259686 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF OAG, all licenses cancelled
0014873491 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF PennDOT GPS UHF
0005377346 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF PennDOT Highway Advisory AM
0005377460 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF PFBC
0003233582 Commonwealth of Pennsylvania PGC
0014264766 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF PHMC Cornwall Iron Furnace UHF
0010133353 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF PHMC State Museum Harrisburg
0014394118 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF PHMC Wash Xing UHF
0003233145 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF PHMC, multiple sites (Strasburg, Landis Valley, Westmoreland)
0016676868 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF PSP SVRS 173.075
0005822747 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF SSHE Bloomsburg University
0013848833 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF SSHE California University of PA
0003182375 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF SSHE California University of PA – police channels
0009947425 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF SSHE Clarion University of PA
0003251915 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF SSHE East Stroudsburg University
0006622955 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF SSHE Indiana University of PA
0003251766 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF SSHE Kutztown University
0004440442 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF SSHE Millersville University
0008317836 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF SSHE Millersville University
0003251972 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF SSHE Shippensburg University
0006210678 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF SSHE Shippensburg University, Physical Plant
0013926480 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF SSHE Slippery Rock University
0007200769 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF SSHE West Chester University
0003178472 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF;Commonwealth of Pennsylvania STARNET FB8 VHF, FB2 VHF, 800MHz
0003175122 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF, Pennsylvania State Police, Commonwealth of Pennsylvania STARNET legacy PSP vhf, a few FB2 VHF, cancelled 800MHz pre-rebanding
0004418133 PENNSYLVANIA, COMMONWEALTH OF University of Pittsburgh
 
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Railbender said:
Please bear with me since I am new to Pro96Com. I did not take a screen shot of that tab. This is from the saved logs;

FileVersion:8
-TowerInfo
#This section is here for information only. With the exception
#of the Call Sign(s), This data is not Read back into the program at all.
System ID : 942
System Name :
WACN : BEE00
Tower Number (Decimal): 1-11
Tower Number (Hex) : T010B
Tower Description :
Control Capabilities : Data,Voice,Registration
Flavor : Phase 2
Call Sign(s) :
Timestamp : Fri Sep 29 18:11:44 2017

-Tables
#Format: Table ID,Base Freq,Spacing,Input Offset,Assumed/Confirmed,BandWidth,Slots
00,851.00625,0.00625,-45.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
01,762.00625,0.00625,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
02,851.01250,0.01250,-45.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
03,762.00625,0.01250,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
04,150.00000,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
05,161.70000,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
06,450.00000,0.00625,5.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
07,150.00000,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
08,150.00250,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
09,155.00000,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
10,155.00250,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
11,161.70000,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
12,161.70250,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
13,166.80000,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
14,166.80250,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
15,450.00000,0.00625,5.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2

-Frequencies
#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency(/Slot),Input Channel,Input Frequency(/Slot),Input Explicit(1/0),Hit Count
"04-0566","ci",151.41500,"04-2184",155.46000,1,1
"04-3747","ad",159.36750,"04-2076",155.19000,1,0
"09-3494","v",159.36750/0,"09-0464",155.58000/0,1,1
"09-3495","v",159.36750/1,"09-0465",155.58000/1,1,2

Note that these frequencies are not on the list mentioned earlier but are licensed as WQWA746. I entered both sets of frequencies in preparation for the testing scheduled next month.
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Thanks. No worries. I am still getting used to Pro96com, too.

Going forward, one thing that will be helpful will be looking at the site neighbors that are displayed as this will lead to new sites as they come online.
 
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EMT1301 said:
Dan,

From perusing the various Commonwealth FCC licenses, I have discovered that Pennsylvania uses specific FRNs for specific radio services, as follows:

DCNR (conventional): 0003174794
PSP (conventional): 0003175122
PA-STARNET (OpenSky and new P25): 0003178472
PTC (conventional): 0003233129
Penndot (conventional): 0003233400
PGC (conventional): 0003233582
DMVA (conventional): 0003235546
OAG (conventional): 0003259686
DPW (conventional): 0004140521
DOC (conventional): 0004426763
Penndot (ITS): 0005377346
PFBC (conventional): 0005377460
PEMA (conventional): 0006909964

The license you mentioned, WQLM930, is authorized under FRN 0003178472, therefore it is part of PA-STARNet. The emission desginators for the license channels (11K3F9W) would support this conclusion as well.
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Craig,

I was beginning to work on a similar list myself, I see Ben has compiled one also. I already programmed these frequencies, so now it's the waiting game. FYI I can just barely hear the control channel off of the Derry site, there is not enough signal to decode it
 
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druhe said:
Craig,

I was beginning to work on a similar list myself, I see Ben has compiled one also. I already programmed these frequencies, so now it's the waiting game. FYI I can just barely hear the control channel off of the Derry site, there is not enough signal to decode it
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There are two sites in Somerset County as well, though I am not aware of their status. One of the sites is on Bald Knob, so I should think you'd be able to receive that one from your location, if it's active.

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There is a site list in the wiki page for the system...lists all the known licensed VHF sites. There will be 700/800MHz locations coming online in the Pittsburgh area at some point, as well. There will also be at least on simulcast cell in the Allegheny County metro area.
 
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HM1529 said:
There is a site list in the wiki page for the system...lists all the known licensed VHF sites. There will be 700/800MHz locations coming online in the Pittsburgh area at some point, as well. There will also be at least on simulcast cell in the Allegheny County metro area.
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From the PowerPoint presentation that I was able to view, it looks like there will be three 800 MHz overlays to the system; Allegheny County, somewhere out east (possibly Philly area), and I think the third was near Erie maybe?

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Dan, is there p25 on the Derry site? All I hear in north Versailles is the cw id. I heard a rumor that Allegheny county will be getting a 700 or 800 mhz channel, don't know when though. Maybe next year sometime?
 
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Dan, is there p25 on the Derry site? All I hear in north Versailles is the cw id. I heard a rumor that Allegheny county will be getting a 700 or 800 mhz channel, don't know when though. Maybe next year sometime?
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Jeff,

Yes a control channel at Derry became active the other day, this was confirmed from Mount Pleasant. As I stated in an earlier post, from my location I can tell a control channel is there but that's it. As for the build out in Allegheny the only information I have is what's posted hear, on the database and the wiki.
 
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EMT1301 said:
There are two sites in Somerset County as well, though I am not aware of their status. One of the sites is on Bald Knob, so I should think you'd be able to receive that one from your location, if it's active.

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Craig, The only site information I have for Somerset is Reels Corner, can you point me to the Bald Knob information ? By chance is Reels Corner and Bald Knob one in the same ?

Thanks
 
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Dan, when did the derry site become active with p25? I have bat frequency programmed into my radio and a couple of other frequencies from surrounding counties and all I've heard on the derry site was the cw ider. But I have not scanned that system in probably 2 weeks now. I will have to turn that bank back on and see if I can hear anything. Where are the other sites located and what frequencies are associated with them just so I can make sure I have the correct frequencies.
 
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jeffm77 said:
Dan, when did the derry site become active with p25? I have bat frequency programmed into my radio and a couple of other frequencies from surrounding counties and all I've heard on the derry site was the cw ider. But I have not scanned that system in probably 2 weeks now. I will have to turn that bank back on and see if I can hear anything. Where are the other sites located and what frequencies are associated with them just so I can make sure I have the correct frequencies.
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https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=9276

http://wiki.radioreference.com/inde..._Radio_Network_(PA-STARNet)_P25_Site_Research
 
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druhe said:
Craig, The only site information I have for Somerset is Reels Corner, can you point me to the Bald Knob information ? By chance is Reels Corner and Bald Knob one in the same ?

Thanks
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Dan,

Yes, Reels Corner is Bald Knob.

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