PA Statewide P25 Phase 2 System

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Just out of curiosity, are 100% the ones listed below best-guesses, or has somebody actually confirmed (as best they can, antenna off, at the site) that the site locations are correct?

@RadioDitch & Bro believe that 1.106 Montrose is not at the SUSQ86 site.
@talviar believes that 1.109 Georges Twp is not at the FAYE62 site.

Im guessing pretty much all of the ones listed below are simply best guesses. Although I'm vaguely recalling that someone like @druhe or @talviar may have went to 1.44 Little Flat or 1.60 Connellsville (FAYE6) or 1.77 Blue Knob and confirmed those locations. I can't remember. Not that it really really matters, but it would be nice to know which ones still need to be fleshed out for ultimate accuracy.

Code:
1.24    Fairchance (FAYE01)
1.40    Mt Davis (SOME06)
1.44    Little Flat (CENT08)
1.66    Connellsville (FAYE60)
1.70    Devault (CHES02)
1.77    Blue Knob (BEDF13)
1.85    Center Valley (LEHI05)
1.95    Big Flat (CUMB04)
1.106    Montrose (SUSQ86)
1.109    Georges Twp (FAYE62)
1.111    Catawissa (COLU01)

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Just out of curiosity, are 100% the ones listed below best-guesses, or has somebody actually confirmed (as best they can, antenna off, at the site) that the site locations are correct?

@RadioDitch & Bro believe that 1.106 Montrose is not at the SUSQ86 site.

Sean said it's definitely in Montrose, and it's identifying as SUSQ86, but he believes it is coming from a tower that is about 1mi or so away near Chenango Street and not the tower at SR4007 & Fisk Mill (41.87397, -75.93214). I clarified with him, and he said he sat on SR4007 about 300 yards line of sight from the tower and with the antenna off he had no decode, S0 on the meter with occasional static but no data.

Anyone should feel free to double check.
 
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Just out of curiosity, are 100% the ones listed below best-guesses, or has somebody actually confirmed (as best they can, antenna off, at the site) that the site locations are correct?

@RadioDitch & Bro believe that 1.106 Montrose is not at the SUSQ86 site.
@talviar believes that 1.109 Georges Twp is not at the FAYE62 site.

Im guessing pretty much all of the ones listed below are simply best guesses. Although I'm vaguely recalling that someone like @druhe or @talviar may have went to 1.44 Little Flat or 1.60 Connellsville (FAYE6) or 1.77 Blue Knob and confirmed those locations. I can't remember. Not that it really really matters, but it would be nice to know which ones still need to be fleshed out for ultimate accuracy.

Code:
1.24    Fairchance (FAYE01)
1.40    Mt Davis (SOME06)
1.44    Little Flat (CENT08)
1.66    Connellsville (FAYE60)
1.70    Devault (CHES02)
1.77    Blue Knob (BEDF13)
1.85    Center Valley (LEHI05)
1.95    Big Flat (CUMB04)
1.106    Montrose (SUSQ86)
1.109    Georges Twp (FAYE62)
1.111    Catawissa (COLU01)

Mike

I confirmed 1.77 Blue Knob sometime ago. There is a posting somewhere within this thread pertaining to same.

PS: Found it post #769

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1.111 Catawissa can also be confirmed as correct. I'll be back home in the states on Tuesday and I'll take my own roadtrip as planned and run Pro96Com. I can run OBS and use the cellular data in my truck to live stream my Pro96Com screen if there's one particular person who is the main guru working on this system for the DB.
 

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While you are on your drive-about, feel free to check the Columbia/Montour area for a simulcast on STARNET. Like Warren Co, they are migrating to the state system.

Will do. I also plan on checking several of the sites in the Wiki showing not online (except the Philly area), and double checking some in Centre, Clearfield, Bedford, Somerset, and Indiana counties when we head out to see family in Cambria County. And of course, I'm going to be a good older brother and double check Sean's work with Pro96Com and a directional antenna. I love him but he can be a bit of an oblivious doofus sometimes. lol.
 

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Sean said it's definitely in Montrose, and it's identifying as SUSQ86, but he believes it is coming from a tower that is about 1mi or so away near Chenango Street and not the tower at SR4007 & Fisk Mill (41.87397, -75.93214). I clarified with him, and he said he sat on SR4007 about 300 yards line of sight from the tower and with the antenna off he had no decode, S0 on the meter with occasional static but no data.

Anyone should feel free to double check.
Sounds like this might be the site.. SUSQ612 WQOE329 41.84075 -75.87225 (2 FAIRGROUNDS ROAD) :unsure:
19/20 - NPRSusquehannaMontroseNTIA BSI=SUSQ861.106SUSQ612CC
168.9125
SCC
170.6250
NAC
942
SUSQ612 WQOE329
SUSQ60 WQOE465
SUSQ86 KXH345
 
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Sounds like this might be the site.. SUSQ612 WQOE329 41.84075 -75.87225 (2 FAIRGROUNDS ROAD) :unsure:

Based on my conversation with him, that does appear to be in the correct direction away from the alleged licensed site location near SR-4002/Fisk Mill towards where he thinks it probably is. Again, I'm gonna double check with the handheld yagi when I head out next week but he sat on SR-4002 only 300 yards from the alleged 41.87397, -75.93214 location and had no signal on a BCD396XT nor SDS-100 with the antennas off.
 
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Based on my conversation with him, that does appear to be in the correct direction away from the alleged licensed site location near SR-4002/Fisk Mill towards where he thinks it probably is. Again, I'm gonna double check with the handheld yagi when I head out next week but he sat on SR-4002 only 300 yards from the alleged 41.87397, -75.93214 location and had no signal on a BCD396XT nor SDS-100 with the antennas off.

For what its worth, when I confirmed 1.77 Blue Knob, with antenna off, I didn't have signal until I was at the fence that surrounds the compound. I truly thought I'd have it before that, but didn't.
 

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Just out of curiosity, are 100% the ones listed below best-guesses, or has somebody actually confirmed (as best they can, antenna off, at the site) that the site locations are correct?

@RadioDitch & Bro believe that 1.106 Montrose is not at the SUSQ86 site.
@talviar believes that 1.109 Georges Twp is not at the FAYE62 site.

Im guessing pretty much all of the ones listed below are simply best guesses. Although I'm vaguely recalling that someone like @druhe or @talviar may have went to 1.44 Little Flat or 1.60 Connellsville (FAYE6) or 1.77 Blue Knob and confirmed those locations. I can't remember. Not that it really really matters, but it would be nice to know which ones still need to be fleshed out for ultimate accuracy.

Code:
1.24    Fairchance (FAYE01)
1.40    Mt Davis (SOME06)
1.44    Little Flat (CENT08)
1.66    Connellsville (FAYE60)
1.70    Devault (CHES02)
1.77    Blue Knob (BEDF13)
1.85    Center Valley (LEHI05)
1.95    Big Flat (CUMB04)
1.106    Montrose (SUSQ86)
1.109    Georges Twp (FAYE62)
1.111    Catawissa (COLU01)

Mike

1.40 is confirmed as Mount Davis. I had the opportunity to visit the site in person for a project with Somerset County Department of Emergency Services and entered the radio shelter. The labels on the transceivers positively identify the site frequencies.
 

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Ok, so:

Code:
1.24    Fairchance (FAYE01)
1.40    Mt Davis (SOME06) - confirmed
1.44    Little Flat (CENT08)
1.66    Connellsville (FAYE60)
1.70    Devault (CHES02)
1.77    Blue Knob (BEDF13) - confirmed
1.85    Center Valley (LEHI05)
1.95    Big Flat (CUMB04)
1.106    Montrose (SUSQ86)
1.109    Georges Twp (FAYE62)
1.111    Catawissa (COLU01) - confirmed
 

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For what its worth, when I confirmed 1.77 Blue Knob, with antenna off, I didn't have signal until I was at the fence that surrounds the compound. I truly thought I'd have it before that, but didn't.

True Don, that's a possibility. I'm going to go up to the site to double check his work.

@mtindor You might also want to add Clover (Cambria) to that list. Per another family member (we're Irish, there's a lot of us...lol), it's was on air this weekend. I'll work on confirming that also as I said, among all the other places on the growing list.
 

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Okay, so here's pretty much the trip plan. Of these...are there any that absolutely do not need to be checked or decoded?

RFSSLocationTowerFrequencyFrequencyFrequencyFrequencyFrequencyFrequencyLatLong
1.071KeffersSCHU03151.38500151.44500153.10250153.3875040.60833000000-76.46250000000
1.072AMahanoySCHU33153.18500153.2525040.84861000000-76.11333000000
1.072BMahanoy CitySCHU36151.2950040.85000000000-76.11517000000
1.133HazeltonLUZE06/U453.26250453.33750453.4000040.96833000000-75.95778000000
1.111CatawissaCOLU01153.10250153.45500161.82500161.6825040.93944000000-76.42528000000
1.101ShicksinnyLUZE04153.26750155.50500155.6700041.15889000000-76.16917000000
1.115MehoopanyWYOM30152.11500153.43250153.5825041.51264000000-76.06992000000
1.108New MilfordSUSQ06151.37750152.41250153.37250154.45250154.6800041.90639000000-75.69361000000
1.106MontroseSUSQ612168.91250170.6250041.87397000000-75.93214000000
1.113CantonBRAD31153.58250153.72500154.9425041.81131000000-76.71739000000
MansfieldTIOG06153.12500155.87250155.8875041.84764000000-77.15636000000
WestfieldTIOG03152.8925041.83494000000-77.45719000000
WellsbotoTIOG42153.12500155.87250155.8875041.65761000000-77.50300000000
WatervilleLYCO02151.34000153.13250153.59000154.7550041.31703000000-77.34372000000
RenovaCLIN02151.06250151.32500151.4975041.39700000000-77.85444000000
DriftwoodCAME33151.01000151.3100041.38831000000-78.12617000000
PenfieldCLEA03151.12250151.25750154.1975041.24603000000-78.64558000000
Rockton/PenfieldCLEA15154.94250156.11250156.2250041.09983000000-78.53369000000
Falls CreekCLEA07155.5050041.17089000000-78.76919000000
1.043BellefonteCENT16/V154.69500154.85250155.6700040.92028000000-77.97417000000
BellefonteCENT16/8851.20000851.47500852.51250853.2875040.92033000000-77.97417000000
1.044Boalsburg/Little FlatCENT08161.81250161.85000161.8875040.75311000000-77.75569000000
BellvilleMIFF40154.20500154.9350040.65672000000-77.72028000000
1.063LewistownMIFF35154.66500154.75500154.92000155.4450040.57233000000-77.51378000000
1.062Loop LookoutHUNT01154.16750154.90500155.4600040.49683000000-78.13139000000
1.042TyroneCENT04158.81250159.10500159.2400040.73200000000-78.32531000000
1.038RossiterINDI07151.23500151.34000151.47500159.3300040.88756000000-78.83350000000
1.037ClymerINDI01158.73000159.12750159.3750040.66728000000-78.99683000000
Cambria Twp. (Colver)CAMB01154.6650040.50494000000-78.79642000000
1.035Lower YoderCAMB02151.15250151.29500151.34750159.19500159.3825040.37078000000-78.98308000000
1.039Reels Corner (Bald Knob)SOME02156.41000159.00750159.21000161.83750161.8875040.03925000000-78.78253000000
1.107HyndmanBEDF30161.85000161.90000161.9500039.85031000000-78.73464000000
1.041Chaneysville (Martin Hill)BEDF02151.08500151.48250154.1375039.82994000000-78.54350000000
1.003Wells Tannery (Bald Knob)FULT01151.22750155.52000156.2100040.01231000000-78.14722000000
1.003Tuscarora MountainFULT02151.22750155.52000156.2100039.94897000000-77.93722000000
1.049Upper StrasburgFRAN01151.18250151.38500155.2425040.05008000000-77.74747000000
1.004Middle PaxtonDAUP01/V158.73750158.76000159.11250159.3900040.42056000000-76.81194000000
1.053Middle PaxtonDAUP01/8854.33750855.06250855.43750856.01250857.3375040.42056000000-76.81194000000
1.094GrantvilleDAUP31/8854.46250854.68750858.53750859.5375040.40472000000-76.68306000000
1.018WisconisoDAUP37/8856.06250857.06250857.48750858.21250858.4875040.58194000000-76.69133000000
1.132JonestownLEBA71/8854.51250855.88750856.7125040.42817000000-76.56464000000
1.073Ft. Indiantown GapLEBA74/8854.71250856.48750858.08750859.4875040.45603000000-76.60608000000
1.074Port ClintonBERK04153.07250153.44000154.45250154.91250155.50500155.6700040.60417000000-75.99167000000
 

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True Don, that's a possibility. I'm going to go up to the site to double check his work.

@mtindor You might also want to add Clover (Cambria) to that list. Per another family member (we're Irish, there's a lot of us...lol), it's was on air this weekend. I'll work on confirming that also as I said, among all the other places on the growing list.

I was only listing those sites which (a) are not using typical public safety frequencies and thus we cannot pin down location from FCC license and (b) site which somebody has specifically contested the location specified on the FCC license.

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What the advantage of getting a p25 phase 2 scanner in Bradford and tioga county pa. Are you able to hear state police or still under the pa starnet non scannable looking at the bcd 996p2
 

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What the advantage of getting a p25 phase 2 scanner in Bradford and tioga county pa. Are you able to hear state police or still under the pa starnet non scannable looking at the bcd 996p2

Pennsylvania State Police are/will be fully encrypted under this new system.
 

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Cambria Twp. (Colver)
CAMB01154.6650040.50494000000-78.79642000000


Just an FYI , CAMB01 is also known as Pendleton, and has been the primary site for the PSP barracks located in Ebensburg for many years. The frequency 154.6650 is PSP Ebensburg legacy dispatch frequency. On rare occasions, there is still FM comms on it.
 

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What the advantage of getting a p25 phase 2 scanner in Bradford and tioga county pa. Are you able to hear state police or still under the pa starnet non scannable looking at the bcd 996p2
The answer is the same as I gave you a year ago. You will never be able to listen to the PSP.

 
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